MAJBobby Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) http://www.spotrac.com/research/nfl/offseason-cap-questions-buffalo-bills-713/ it talks Glenn, Taylor, Hughes, InCognito, Alexander and Wood. Just in case someone wants the ramifications of those players quick and handy Edited February 18, 2018 by MAJBobby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Nice break down, thank you. If the Bills want to move on from Glenn then they need to trade him post June 1st. His contract has the biggest swing and most glaring disparage from a trade as opposed to a cut. Tyrod, Hughes, Lorenzo, and Richie have similar savings be it cut or traded. I would like to see Richie and Lorenzo brought back. I would look for Beane to make another trade similar to the Watkins deal with Glenn in August as teams see needs. A healthy Glenn displayed during some preseason games could bring back a nice player and high pick. I feel like the Bills have been able to find left tackles but struggling to fill the RT. Mills started to come on and Henderson might finally be back to playing form. Henderson would be a good swing tackle if healthy. Dawkins did very good for a rookie and I can see him becoming the LT. Hughes traded after June 1st would be a good savings. Hopefully Beane can find a defensive scheme similar to the one Schwartz runs with a team that has cap space and needs a pass rusher. Tyrod needs to be cut or traded pre March 16th or post June 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Good read, great site for NFL financial information. Thanks for posting. Some interesting decisions are coming on one Bills Drive ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The cap situation is OK this offseason and fantastic for next year assuming they dont give away a lot of big contracts this year which I dont see them doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I have the Bills moving on from all of them except Hughes. Bills looking at taking a few steps back in 2018, but a big 2019. Get your QB this year. Let him take his lumps and learn. 2019 we surround him with talent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Dumping Richie would be absolutely assinine. Edited February 18, 2018 by Misterbluesky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheTruthHurts said: I have the Bills moving on from all of them except Hughes. Bills looking at taking a few steps back in 2018, but a big 2019. Get your QB this year. Let him take his lumps and learn. 2019 we surround him with talent. ...think you can get your QB this year AND begin to surround him with talent......finish up in 2019....wouldn't surprise me one bit if McBeane is working with a two year window......he may already have his staff analyzing 2019 collegian possibilities as well as NFL list of upper echelon UFA's.......... Edited February 18, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Dumping Richie would be absolutely assinine. But people need more cap room for their offseason mocks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Dumping Richie would be absolutely assinine. ...doubly asinine....he still is a force on the left side and watching him pull remains a thing of beauty.....he's on the books for $6.4 mil in 2018.....remember everybody screaming about possibly paying Levitre $8 mil back in 2012?.......hell I'd extend Richie for one more year....BTW, EVERY holding call against him has been bogus.....damn zebras need to understand that sometime your opposition needs to be "momentarily detained" which is FAR different than holding IMO.............. Edited February 18, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Dumping Richie would be absolutely assinine. I would explore trade possibilities. Try and get a 5th. It's not about Richie, it's about where the team is headed. Bills should unload older players. Continue the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 If they trade up and take a qb in round one they can start free agency with around 45 million by cutting Glenn, taylor and wood. Personally I would not be in a rush to cut glenn , Granted they should spend 5-7 on somekind of vet qb weather it be Derek Anderson , Matt Moore , ect. That would leave around 40 million to buy some players Corner, linebacker , D tackle would be my personal choice.. Then hit the draft and lets see what happens. With wood gone I can not see them cutting Richie and If Kyle doesn't comeback I think Alexander stays, Although in a different role. Special teams and pass rusher playing in conjunction with Lawson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Buffalo Bills2018SalaryCap FYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Always good to be aware of potential cap casualties ahead of the new league year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: And Overdorf still employeed right???? Just checking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: And Overdorf still employeed right???? Just checking He's not going anywhere according to Beane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: He's not going anywhere according to Beane. Good. I want to see more ****ty contract structures with no team protections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Tyrod Taylor, quarterback Cordy Glenn, offensive tackle Richie Incognito, guard Lorenzo Alexander, linebacker John Miller, guard Jerry Hughes, defensive end Colton Schmidt, punter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Good. I want to see more ****ty contract structures with no team protections. Beane will be much more cognizant to prevent such language or lack thereof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 We've identified players from each NFL team who may be trending toward the 2018 roster bubble, based on performance vs. compensation & dead cap structure. The list below shows the individual financial implications to trade or release each player based on various bonus dates some may have. We'll continue to update this list as new reports emerge. Did we miss someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: And Overdorf still employeed right???? Just checking Overdorf has nothing to do with the players who are no longer here because they no longer fit the scheme of the new regime. I'm also pretty sure any major salaries handed out were given a seal of approval from Whaley and the Pegulas. Keep swapping out Head Coaches and GM and this is the end result. The only ones to blame for this dead cap mess are th ePegulas and their asssanine hiring of Rex Ryan, and then allowuing Whaley to re-rearrange th eroster fo Rex only to see us re re re arraging the roster for Beane and McD. Bottom line is we need ot stick with Beane and McD for 5 years minimum no matter what or at least learn how ot hire a GM coach that fits the exitsting talent pool instead of scrapping a roster every 2 - 3 years... Edited February 20, 2018 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 3:35 PM, baskingridgebillsfan said: If they trade up and take a qb in round one they can start free agency with around 45 million by cutting Glenn, taylor and wood. Personally I would not be in a rush to cut glenn , Granted they should spend 5-7 on somekind of vet qb weather it be Derek Anderson , Matt Moore , ect. That would leave around 40 million to buy some players Corner, linebacker , D tackle would be my personal choice.. Then hit the draft and lets see what happens. With wood gone I can not see them cutting Richie and If Kyle doesn't comeback I think Alexander stays, Although in a different role. Special teams and pass rusher playing in conjunction with Lawson Is this intentionally out of order? FA is well in advance of the draft so I'm not sure how you would trade up, take a QB, and THEN start FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, ddaryl said: Overdorf has nothing to do with the players who are no longer here because they no longer fit the scheme of the new regime. I'm also pretty sure any major salaries handed out were given a seal of approval from Whaley and the Pegulas. Keep swapping out Head Coaches and GM and this is the end result. The only ones to blame for this dead cap mess are th ePegulas and their asssanine hiring of Rex Ryan, and then allowuing Whaley to re-rearrange th eroster fo Rex only to see us re re re arraging the roster for Beane and McD. Bottom line is we need ot stick with Beane and McD for 5 years minimum no matter what or at least learn how ot hire a GM coach that fits the exitsting talent pool instead of scrapping a roster every 2 - 3 years... Who wrote, structured and negotiated those contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Tyrod Taylor, quarterback Cordy Glenn, offensive tackle Richie Incognito, guard Lorenzo Alexander, linebacker John Miller, guard Jerry Hughes, defensive end Colton Schmidt, punter Salary cap or not Schmidt needs to go. Lost the season for us in Jax with awful punting. Edited February 20, 2018 by Badthingsman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Badthingsman said: Salary cap or not Schmidt needs to go. Lost the season for us in Jax with awful punting. He does have a penchant for uncorking a bad one at the worst possible time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dollars 2 donuts Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 On 2/18/2018 at 1:39 PM, Misterbluesky said: Dumping Richie would be absolutely assinine. I am not putting this on the OP, this is just a general comment: Why in the world do we see multiple speculations of this guying being cut loose when he is arguably one of the best guards in all of football the last three years and has easily performed to the level of his contract, which is going into its last year anyways? Maybe trade him? For what? We're going to be happy with a 4th rounder for a three straight year pro-bowl player? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dollars 2 donuts Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It certainly is crazy to think that this team is 33-31 (plus 1 playoff loss) since 2014 kickoff in Chicago. If you only read the stats of this team, including roster moves, and weren't shown the record you would swear you were looking at information from a 20-44 team, at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I keep wondering why a certain someone keeps bumping this thread when there is another 2018 Bills Cap thread on the main page..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsfan89 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 2:10 PM, dollars 2 donuts said: It certainly is crazy to think that this team is 33-31 (plus 1 playoff loss) since 2014 kickoff in Chicago. If you only read the stats of this team, including roster moves, and weren't shown the record you would swear you were looking at information from a 20-44 team, at best. Since 2014 the Panthers, Cowboys, Ravens and Chiefs all have winning record. The Saints are just under .500 in that time span. So it isn' like dead cap necessarily means you are a losing team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Since 2014 the Panthers, Cowboys, Ravens and Chiefs all have winning record. The Saints are just under .500 in that time span. So it isn' like dead cap necessarily means you are a losing team. Not a direct correlation, but it does say something about a team's ability to manage their finances efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Another thing to pay attention to around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not a direct correlation, but it does say something about a team's ability to manage their finances efficiently. It is also circumstances. If you are a bad team or a less desirable market you might have to hand out big money to be more competitive. Also it could be a sign of a rebuild, if a team has a lot of older bloated contracts they might have to eat a lot of dead money to get out from under that. I think there are a few factors at play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, billsfan89 said: It is also circumstances. If you are a bad team or a less desirable market you might have to hand out big money to be more competitive. Also it could be a sign of a rebuild, if a team has a lot of older bloated contracts they might have to eat a lot of dead money to get out from under that. I think there are a few factors at play. No doubt. Different scenarios to explain high dead cap numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No doubt. Different scenarios to explain high dead cap numbers. I think the Bills obviously inflated it with trading Dareus and the Eric Wood extension. I would also think that the Mario cut added a nice chunk to that number. I can't think of what other major cuts or trades would have added so much to the Bills dead cap since 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I think the Bills obviously inflated it with trading Dareus and the Eric Wood extension. I would also think that the Mario cut added a nice chunk to that number. I can't think of what other major cuts or trades would have added so much to the Bills dead cap since 2014. '19 is when things begin to look much better. A younger roster gives them a window to make things much more manageable from a cap perspective for at least a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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