26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Sources: Browns add ex-Skins GM McCloughan Former Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan will join the Browns staff to help with the 2018 draft, sources told ESPN. Edited February 4, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Could be a bad thing for the Baker Mayfield fanboys like myself. Quote The radio host listed off a few of the notable names (Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, Luke Falk), and then asked McCloughan directly, “You gotta pick one quarterback to lead your franchise, Scott, who’s it gonna be?” Without missing a beat, McCloughan said Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield. McCloughan had this to say about Mayfield. “He reminds me of a shorter version of Brett Favre. Tough guy. He can throw it. And he’s very confident, and he’s not afraid whatsoever, whatsoever. He’s a battler. I know saying Brett Favre’s a big name, and I was around him for a while, but this guy’s got talent. Every guy you mention has talent. I’ve already said I think three guys go in the top ten, I think five go in the first round.” https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/10/18/16492682/scot-mccloughan-2018-nfl-draft-quarterback-franchise-baker-mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Browns owner now needs to just have patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 They hired a guy fired twice for having a problem with alcohol. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Ittakestime said: Could be a bad thing for the Baker Mayfield fanboys like myself. https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/10/18/16492682/scot-mccloughan-2018-nfl-draft-quarterback-franchise-baker-mayfield Dorsey will make the decision, but its possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 ..... and the guy who built the Redskins recently....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Is this something that I should care about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Is this something that I should care about? The op likes him because he talks bad about Cousins. I dont think you should care, Browns hire alcoholic ??♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Dorsey will make the decision, but its possible. They brought this guy in for a reason, so I wouldn't discount it be more a democracy than a communist type situation with Dorsey being the dictator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Browns owner now needs to just have patience. They have assembled an excellent front office with Dorsey, Wolf, Highsmith, and now McCloughan. You combine that with 12 picks in the '18 draft and $100M+ in cap space they could quickly become a force in the AFC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, Ittakestime said: They brought this guy in for a reason, so I wouldn't discount it be more a democracy than a communist type situation with Dorsey being the dictator Sure they brought him in for a reason. Its not to make final decisions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Sure they brought him in for a reason. Its not to make final decisions though. Dorsey will make the decisions, but having McCloughan around means they will be more informed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They have assembled an excellent front office with Dorsey, Wolf, Highsmith, and now McCloughan. You combine that with 12 picks in the '18 draft and $100M+ in cap space they could quickly become a force in the AFC. They need to do something with that coaching staff. They are horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: ..... and the guy who built the Redskins recently....... He was GM for 2 seasons. This poor guy knows a lot of people. He's been terminated or resigned from 3 different teams for the same problem. 5 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: They brought this guy in for a reason, so I wouldn't discount it be more a democracy than a communist type situation with Dorsey being the dictator He's going to help scout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, Ittakestime said: They need to do something with that coaching staff. They are horrible. Hue might well be a short timer. They'll be able to attract good coaches given their situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Dorsey will make the decisions, but having McCloughan around means they will be more informed. And no one is bringing McCloughan in unless they have a great relationship and have similar views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, TheTruthHurts said: And no one is bringing McCloughan in unless they have a great relationship and have similar views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Hue might well be a short timer. They'll be able to attract good coaches given their situation. That's not staying patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: That's not staying patient. We'll see what happens. New GM might want his own coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Hue might well be a short timer. They'll be able to attract good coaches given their situation. It's about GM/HC relationships now days and KC's staff has been picked apart already. They should have made the change this year and brought in Nagy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: Is this something that I should care about? If you are an NFL fan, I'd say yeah. McCloughan is one of the best talent evaluators of this generation and has proven it wherever he has been. He has some obvious personal issues, but many felt that Snyder cooked up rumors about him in Washington and that he didn't actually have a drinking problem there. He didn't get along with Allen, who is a terrible gm. Edited February 4, 2018 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: They hired a guy fired twice for having a problem with alcohol. Ok. They hired him to Cleveland!! That team could drive anybody to drink. Oh, Cleveland is also one of the highest spiking opioid abuse cities in the country, maybe Scotty 2 hottie will find a new vice?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, dave mcbride said: If you are an NFL fan, I'd say yeah. McCloughan is one of the best talent evaluators of this generation and has proven it wherever he has been. He has some obvious personal issues, but many felt that Snyder cooked up ropumora about him in Washington and that he didn't actually have a drinking problem there. He didn't get along with Allen, who is a terrible gm. Same thing I have heard from people in the know in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: If you are an NFL fan, I'd say yeah. McCloughan is one of the best talent evaluators of this generation and has proven it wherever he has been. He has some obvious personal issues, but many felt that Snyder cooked up rumors about him in Washington and that he didn't actually have a drinking problem there. He didn't get along with Allen, who is a terrible gm. But this doesn’t really affect me as a Bills fan at all. Not trying to be a dick I just don’t know if this related to the bills or Kirk cousins or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: But this doesn’t really affect me as a Bills fan at all. Not trying to be a dick I just don’t know if this related to the bills or Kirk cousins or something McLoughlan was saying there is nothing special about Cousins a week or so ago in the media. Some are connecting the dots and assuming that the Browns will eliminate themselves from the Cousins sweepstakes because of McLoughlans presence on the staff. These same folks may be keen on the Bills acquiring Cousins. That is all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Definitely in the upper echelon of the NFL with the recent additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 He’s just a personnel consultant for this one draft. He was consulting last year too, just not exclusively to one team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Sources: Browns add ex-Skins GM McCloughan Former Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan will join the Browns staff to help with the 2018 draft, sources told ESPN. Smart. Seems like he's got people skills problems, but he's really good. Edited February 4, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Dorsey will ace this draft especially the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, ALF said: Dorsey will ace this draft especially the QB position. But you also eat cats 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Smart. Seems like he's go people skills problems, but he's really good. ....agree.......sure he has some issues but he knows his stuff......now on the other hand, Browns hiring the Colts former GM Grigson, a man of many talents (COUGH) is baffling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....agree.......sure he has some issues but he knows his stuff......now on the other hand, Browns hiring the Colts former GM Grigson, a man of many talents (COUGH) is baffling... Grigson is gone now. He was just a scout for them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: The op likes him because he talks bad about Cousins. I dont think you should care, Browns hire alcoholic ??♂️ Alcoholics get hired every day. What's your point? Guy has built 2 teams, if he can keep his demons at bay I'd be very stoked if I was a Browns fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Sources: Browns add ex-Skins GM McCloughan Former Redskins general manager Scot McCloughan will join the Browns staff to help with the 2018 draft, sources told ESPN. Welp, scratch the Browns as a landing spot for Kirk Cousins. Not that I think he'd go there, or that the Browns, owning 2 picks in the top 5, should back up the truck for him, but it was being talked of. I'm Captain Kirk, I'm "wherever this guy goest, I shall (NOT) go" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Grigson is gone now. He was just a scout for them though. ....thanks....didn't realize the Browns dumped him last month......should we bring him in??.......sorry, couldn't resist..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Welp, scratch the Browns as a landing spot for Kirk Cousins. Not that I think he'd go there, or that the Browns, owning 2 picks in the top 5, should back up the truck for him, but it was being talked of. I'm Captain Kirk, I'm "wherever this guy goest, I shall (NOT) go" McCloughan is only with Cleveland through the 2018 draft as a consultant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: McCloughan is only with Cleveland through the 2018 draft as a consultant. ....makes sense....wonder if that precludes him for doing work in his scouting agency for other teams..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....makes sense....wonder if that precludes him for doing work in his scouting agency for other teams..... He's locked in until after the draft: Prior to joining the Browns, McCloughan openly praised Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield as the QB he would favor if he were choosing one for this draft. However, team sources say there is no clear favorite if the team decides to use the top pick on a quarterback, as expected, and Dorsey will lead an extensive evaluation process on several of the top candidates. McCloughan and Dorsey once served together under Hall of Fame Packers general manager Ron Wolf. McCloughan has twice served as a GM -- with the 49ers and the Redskins -- until he was unceremoniously fired by Washington in March 2017. McCloughan filed a grievance against the Redskins, who fired him "with cause" and the outcome is pending. McCloughan formed an independent scouting agency shortly thereafter, but Dorsey recruited him with the permission of owner Jimmy Haslam after Dorsey was named the Browns' new GM in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's locked in until after the draft: Prior to joining the Browns, McCloughan openly praised Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield as the QB he would favor if he were choosing one for this draft. However, team sources say there is no clear favorite if the team decides to use the top pick on a quarterback, as expected, and Dorsey will lead an extensive evaluation process on several of the top candidates. McCloughan and Dorsey once served together under Hall of Fame Packers general manager Ron Wolf. McCloughan has twice served as a GM -- with the 49ers and the Redskins -- until he was unceremoniously fired by Washington in March 2017. McCloughan filed a grievance against the Redskins, who fired him "with cause" and the outcome is pending. McCloughan formed an independent scouting agency shortly thereafter, but Dorsey recruited him with the permission of owner Jimmy Haslam after Dorsey was named the Browns' new GM in December. ...probably signed a Confidentiality Agreement with Browns while his agency staff continues on with work for other clubs, assuming he wasn't a "one man show"...good hire by Dorsey anyway..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Good move for the Browns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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