Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I just don’t see the Redskins even bothering here. They would just get screwed by Cousins one way or another. 1 minute ago, Ittakestime said: You do realize Kirk would have to agree to the deal?!?! He knows he is getting 35 million and will be able to pick his team in a year. Good luck getting him to sign before that. Agree to what deal? A trade between the Redskins and Browns? Why? He has a no trade clause? The guy doesn’t even have a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I just don’t see the Redskins even bothering here. They would just get screwed by Cousins one way or another. Agree to what deal? A trade between the Redskins and Browns? Why? He has a no trade clause? The guy doesn’t even have a contract. In order to get the two firsts as comp, Cousins has to sign with another team first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I could see the broncos and skins swapping picks maybe if cousins signs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Your understanding of the position that Washington is in is way off. No way they'll get two firsts or even one with the Smith trade announced. Teams know they won't have both Smith and Cousins on their roster and that lessens what they can ask for. I understand the situation completely. Again, all of this is irrelevant because it’s not going to happen. If I’m theory it did however, there would be several teams offering the same compensation for Cousins. In order to stand out and make it happen, I believe someone would have to offer two firsts. Again, it’s not going to happen so it really isn’t worth 5 posts. A team like the Browns would probably desperately overpay in picks for him, for the chance to have him on their team this year and attempt a long term deal. If they wait for FA, he’s not going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: In order to get the two firsts as comp, Cousins has to sign with another team first. Quite simply, It wouldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: In order to get the two firsts as comp, Cousins has to sign with another team first. What? That’s not at all what we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that Cousins should just sign the tag and be like “cool.” I’ll just back up Alex Smith and make $35M or whatever it is. I’d fake an injury early in the year (nothing serious though) so that I didn’t have to play and hit FA again next year $35M richer. This is exactly what I would do if I were Cousins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I understand the situation completely. Again, all of this is irrelevant because it’s not going to happen. If I’m theory it did however, there would be several teams offering the same compensation for Cousins. In order to stand out and make it happen, I believe someone would have to offer two firsts. Again, it’s not going to happen so it really isn’t worth 5 posts. A team like the Browns would probably desperately overpay in picks for him, for the chance to have him on their team this year and attempt a long term deal. If they wait for FA, he’s not going there. Repeat after me: The twitterbot knows all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: This is exactly what I would do if I were Cousins. That seems to be the path that benefits him the most. He holds the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
707BillsFan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Teams would have a hard time paying Cousins $25 to $28 mil as it is. Trying to find the $35 mil (that people are referencing) is even crazier. jets and browns and maybe Vikings are the only ones with that much capital. I don't think teams will have any issue paying Cousins $25+ million. Carr is being paid $25 million, Palmer got $24 million this past year. Don't forget someone like Flacco is being paid $24 million too. Mid-20 million seems to be the average ballpark for a starting QB that has some reasonable success. Cousins has had some success in his career w/ a mediocre team (avg 4500yds 81td 36int the past 3 seasons). Someone will pony up for that. That number listed seems to be going toward the norm for a starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7486/kirk-cousins Going to the Vikings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7486/kirk-cousins Going to the Vikings? That seems to be his number 1 choice. It’s not that surprising that he wants to go to the best team lookin for a QB. The Vikings situation will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Yeah, they could consider it, but if I'm Cousins, I make it clear ... do it. I'll sign the tag, take your $34 mill, turn down any trades and spend the season getting in shape and preparing for everything to start next year. I signed the tag the last two years, and I'll do it again. But I won't do it till as late as possible so you won't be able to plan or actually work the trade. "Considering" is the right word. They might think about it, but they won't do it. Edited February 4, 2018 by Thurman#1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Cousins should let them know he is fully prepared to sign the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 48 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Your understanding of the position that Washington is in is way off. No way they'll get two firsts or even one with the Smith trade announced. Teams know they won't have both Smith and Cousins on their roster and that lessens what they can ask for. It's all hypothetical, but if multiple teams get in a bidding war, then it doesn't matter what Washington got Smith for. That would just be a starting point. 41 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I understand the situation completely. Again, all of this is irrelevant because it’s not going to happen. If I’m theory it did however, there would be several teams offering the same compensation for Cousins. In order to stand out and make it happen, I believe someone would have to offer two firsts. Again, it’s not going to happen so it really isn’t worth 5 posts. A team like the Browns would probably desperately overpay in picks for him, for the chance to have him on their team this year and attempt a long term deal. If they wait for FA, he’s not going there. They just signed Scott mccloughlin, Kirk's former GM, who is on record not thinking cousins is franchise material. Unless the owner overrides him, I don't see the browns in play. The rest is a solid point though, and could apply to any team who wants him, I just don't see it being Cleveland now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: It's all hypothetical, but if multiple teams get in a bidding war, then it doesn't matter what Washington got Smith for. That would just be a starting point. They just signed Scott mccloughlin, Kirk's former GM, who is on record not thinking cousins is franchise material. Unless the owner overrides him, I don't see the browns in play. The rest is a solid point though, and could apply to any team who wants him, I just don't see it being Cleveland now Oh it matters. Teams would go to a certain point and then just wait Washington out. End then end they should just let him go as a UFA and take the 2019 comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: In addition, the team that will be trading for him will be sending a 2nd presumably. If that is where he wants to go wouldn’t he be better off there if they had another 2nd? He shouldn’t do ANYTHING to help Washington. This is a valid point. Other things being equal, why not be a nice guy and help Washington, but in a trade, other things aren't equal. The team he's joining would be weakening itself by sending Washington a pick(s), a player(s), or both. Why would Cousins want to see his future team weakened in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Oh it matters. Teams would go to a certain point and then just wait Washington out. End then end they should just let him go as a UFA and take the 2019 comp pick. I def agree it matters a lot. I just think that if a couple of teams get into a bidding war, all bets might be off. It just matters where Washington sets their reserve at. If the skins are demanding 2+ first round picks, but nobody is willing to give that, even with a bidding war, then you're right. But what if, hypothetical situation, Minnesota, az, and Denver are all in, and willing to go 2+ first rounders? The Smith deal sets a floor, but it doesn't set a ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: so cousins doesn't sign the tag and the skins lose all leverage and just have to let him go for free right? no team will trade him for him if he says he won't sign the tag. are the skins allowed to go over the cap during free agency? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Not worth the risk for Washington. Just take the comp pick in 2019 and be done with the situation. no guarantees on a comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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