Dkollidas Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I understand that people have varying valuations, but two players who look like likely trade candidates this off-season, are Tyrod Taylor & Cordy Glenn... when looking at any trade of players for picks. Is it more likely we get Picks for the upcoming 2018 draft, or Picks that don’t come until 2019? My assumption is that they can get more value if they wait a year to receive the compensation, and could put certain conditions on them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Not moving Cordy Glenn for anything less than Multiple 2nds 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 tt and glenn to philly for foles! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Not moving Cordy Glenn for anything less than Multiple 2nds I think his contract and injury status might affect that a bit. And honestly I don’t see them wanting to keep his contract on the books, so eating the dead cap sooner rather than later will be beneficial to them. Just my personal belief on what the organization is thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Dkollidas said: I think his contract and injury status might affect that a bit. And honestly I don’t see them wanting to keep his contract on the books, so eating the dead cap sooner rather than later will be beneficial to them. Just my personal belief on what the organization is thinking. Enough of this dead money. Just play Glenn at guard or RT. This cutting players for the sake of saving nothing in cap space is getting ridiculous. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) I think Cordy Glenn could be moved as part of a trade up with either the Giants or Colts. In fact the NY media is already talking about Cordy Glenn as a potential trade target for the Giants. No no one will trade for Tyrod imo. 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Enough of this dead money. Just play Glenn at guard or RT. This cutting players for the sake of saving nothing in cap space is getting ridiculous. Every team does this all of the time. If a player doesn't fit the plan they move on and take the cap space. This is normal procedure in the NFL. Edited February 3, 2018 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 TT has little trade value. I just don't see a team giving that much for TT. Maybe a 4th to a team like Arizona that will also draft a QB and need a vet for a year. Bills have no business moving Glenn. The OL was an absolute disaster last year and is far worse on paper now. Three fifths of the line needs to be replaced from C to RT. They can not afford to let go of Glenn. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Dkollidas said: I think his contract and injury status might affect that a bit. And honestly I don’t see them wanting to keep his contract on the books, so eating the dead cap sooner rather than later will be beneficial to them. Just my personal belief on what the organization is thinking. Pre June 1 trade dead cap is 9.6MAnd give a 4.8M in cap savings. After June 1 trade gives 3.2 dead cap this year 6.4 dead cap next year and 11.2M in savings this year. Multiple Seconds (in value) min or i dont make the trade. His contract post trade isnt bad for the gaining team (ala Dareus) cause all his dead cap goes away. So essentially here are the gaining teams cap hits on Glenn going forward with obviously easy outs at any time. This year would be the biggest unless the Bills trade him after they pay his roster bonus but If after roster bonus paid this year little over 9M next year a little over 7M and a 2M roster bonus year after little over 7M and a 2M roster bonus bit can walk away anytime no dead cap. That isnt a bad contract for a LT to a gaining team Edited February 3, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Not moving Cordy Glenn for anything less than Multiple 2nds No one will give you multiple seconds given his recent injury situation and his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Formerly Allan in MD said: No one will give you multiple seconds given his recent injury situation and his contract. What Contract. 7M a year going forward with No dead money if cut for a top end LT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Not moving Cordy Glenn for anything less than Multiple 2nds Well that's probably what he's worth but they won't get that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, 1st&ten said: Well that's probably what he's worth but they won't get that much. Then dont move him. Meet the price or nada 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Then dont move him. Meet the price or nada I'm fine with keeping him but this regime is cap conscious & he has one of the biggest contracts next year.If they move him maybe we could get a 2 or 3 & a good young player in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 It saves only 4M against the cap. I think just taking less value is asnine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Hamburg Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) A healthy Cordy Glenn plus picks 21 and 22 would make some nice trade up bait...might even land us our franchise QB for 10+ years..I would be all in Edited February 3, 2018 by MC Hamburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, MC Hamburg said: A healthy Cordy Glenn plus picks 21 and 22 would make some nice trade up bait...might even land us our franchise QB for 1+ years..I would be all in I would be happy if Glenn was in a package that gets us to A long term answer at QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: tt and glenn to philly for foles! I don't understand the Foles infatuation at the moment. He bounced around and did nothing when he had his opportunities elsewhere. He has a couple of ok games filling in for Philly and now he's worthy of multiple players? No way. I wouldn't trade Glenn for him straight up. Tyrod maybe, but in a player for player swap only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Not moving Cordy Glenn for anything less than Multiple 2nds I would love this but the contract coupled with the injury might make this hard to achieve...While it might sound a bit disappointing, I could see a situation where we get a conditional mid round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dkollidas said: I understand that people have varying valuations, but two players who look like likely trade candidates this off-season, are Tyrod Taylor & Cordy Glenn... when looking at any trade of players for picks. Is it more likely we get Picks for the upcoming 2018 draft, or Picks that don’t come until 2019? My assumption is that they can get more value if they wait a year to receive the compensation, and could put certain conditions on them as well. Taylor is not getting traded...we would have to pick up a $6 million option by March...nobody is going to trade for him when they can wait for us to cut him. It's not like he is going to have teams lining up like they are for Cousins(somewhat inexplicably) Edited February 4, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 12 hours ago, H2o said: I don't understand the Foles infatuation at the moment. He bounced around and did nothing when he had his opportunities elsewhere. He has a couple of ok games filling in for Philly and now he's worthy of multiple players? No way. I wouldn't trade Glenn for him straight up. Tyrod maybe, but in a player for player swap only. people act like he's been in the league for 10 years. he had one bad year with the bad rams after an injured 3rd season in philly. i don't think he was going to get to compete with smith in k.c. either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) If another team wanted to trade for Taylor they could do it now like Alex Smith , then sign in new league year. Leroi thinks Beane has a QB better then A. Smith in mind. 2018 Roster Bonus: $6M (due 3/16/2018, $1M fully guaranteed at signing) New league year March 14 I want to keep Glenn if he is 100%. Try him and Dawkins at RT , hopefully one of them could be the upgrade. Edited February 4, 2018 by ALF added info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, billsredneck1 said: people act like he's been in the league for 10 years. he had one bad year with the bad rams after an injured 3rd season in philly. i don't think he was going to get to compete with smith in k.c. either. Yes, he's only been in the league for 6 years and he couldn't stick in Philly as the starter nor in LA. He's a lower tier starter, but a top of the line backup. We already have a lower 3rd of the league starter in Tyrod. We don't need to play musical chairs and replace him with another, especially giving up a good LT when healthy or much else for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 20 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: tt and glenn to philly for foles! Not sure Phillys offseason plan includes adding a 18 million back up QB lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, H2o said: Yes, he's only been in the league for 6 years and he couldn't stick in Philly as the starter nor in LA. He's a lower tier starter, but a top of the line backup. We already have a lower 3rd of the league starter in Tyrod. We don't need to play musical chairs and replace him with another, especially giving up a good LT when healthy or much else for that matter. i would in any way compare the 2. tyrod is no where's near in the same ball park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 21 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Not moving Cordy Glenn for anything less than Multiple 2nds ....not happening.....only one to garner multiple seconds is Rob Ryan in the buffet line...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 23 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Enough of this dead money. Just play Glenn at guard or RT. This cutting players for the sake of saving nothing in cap space is getting ridiculous. I agree 100 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 23 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Enough of this dead money. Just play Glenn at guard or RT. This cutting players for the sake of saving nothing in cap space is getting ridiculous. if he's healthy he stays. if not he goes. nobody is trading for him if he's hurt. keep the great line together as it helps the qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Most of the players the Bills have let go or traded were more likely gone for off field issues. What no one knows is what Cordy Glenn has or hasn't done off the field which no one outside the locker room has any idea about. He seems like a nice guy and everything, haven't heard anything about any issues, but it's also possible the Bills felt CG could have played this year but he didn't and that may have turned the team off. Obviously myself or no one knows if there's anything going on behind the scenes, but all this talk of not moving him for anything less than two 2md rounders, if he does go for low return value, could be due to off field stuff going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 21 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: i would in any way compare the 2. tyrod is no where's near in the same ball park. Foles sure looked good in the playoffs and didn't crack under the pressure of last night. I will take my plate of crow like a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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