prissythecat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Realistic Bills options left: Minnesota's scraps Move up and throw away picks Stand pat for EJ Manuel/Peterman style pick EJ was only on a one year contract with the Raiders. He can probably be had for cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Realistic Bills options left: Minnesota's scraps Move up and throw away picks Stand pat for Manuel/Peterman style pick I'm bummed too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: He's not an unrestricted free agent until the period ends for the Redskins to franchise him. I think that's early March. Until then, he is exclusively Washington property. As others have said, he only can talk to other teams if the Redskins gave him permission, which may have happened. However, it's interesting that if Washington gave him permission, say, a week ago, that that information didn't leak out. I got educated on that point myself a couple days ago. Certainly, Washington can give Cousins and his agent permission to talk, and they can do a handshake deal to sign with Denver as soon as he becomes a FA. What doesn't make sense in all that is the talk about Talib and a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, prissythecat said: EJ was only on a one year contract with the Raiders. He can probably be had for cheap What I meant was a draft pick equivalent to the two players I mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, simool said: He is until 4pm March 6. That's what I thought and the purpose being giving the old team a chance to work out a deal if possible with the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: Maybe I am missing something, maybe someone can help me out. The trade cant go through til the year opens correct? Once that happens, cousins is a FA right? How can they trade someone that is a FA? Nothing happens officially until the new league year begins. Until then there can only be off-the-record high level business meetings to set things in place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nothing happens officially until the new league year begins. Until then there can only be off-the-record high level business meetings to set things in place. So they were meeting with SaviorPeterman then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: How can it be a sign-and-trade? Unless Washington does franchise Cousins and he agrees to sign and be traded? Cousins and Denver agree to a long-term deal. Washington and Denver agree to trade compensation. Washington signs him to the deal he worked out with Denver and trades him to Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I got educated on that point myself a couple days ago. Certainly, Washington can give Cousins and his agent permission to talk, and they can do a handshake deal to sign with Denver as soon as he becomes a FA. What doesn't make sense in all that is the talk about Talib and a trade. This makes no sense. So any player who is a free agent come March can be traded by the team they played for last year before March? It defeats the purpose of free agency. Unless it is some kind of quirk with players who played under the franchise tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: When he gets out of his high level business meetings, we will get the real scoop from his west coast sources And by high level, he means the meeting at the back of the school bus where they get stoned and talk football n girls they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I got educated on that point myself a couple days ago. Certainly, Washington can give Cousins and his agent permission to talk, and they can do a handshake deal to sign with Denver as soon as he becomes a FA. What doesn't make sense in all that is the talk about Talib and a trade. Being Washington's property until March means a trade scenario exists and in this case apparently a player for player deal. As others have said Washington must have given permission for Denver and Cousins to talk to know if the Bronco's can work a deal long term and if not just walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, prissythecat said: So they were meeting with SaviorPeterman then? He is rather well connected, so it seems likely. Can't wait for the next revealing thread with the specifics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Cousins and Denver agree to a long-term deal. Washington and Denver agree to trade compensation. Washington signs him to the deal he worked out with Denver and trades him to Denver. Compensation for what? Also, why would KC agree to this? 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Being Washington's property until March means a trade scenario exists and in this case apparently a player for player deal. As others have said Washington must have given permission for Denver and Cousins to talk to know if the Bronco's can work a deal long term and if not just walk away. Why would Cousins do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: Compensation for what? Also, why would KC agree to this? Trade compensation for Cousins (player/pick) KC doesn’t need to agree to anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Trade compensation for Cousins (player/pick) KC doesn’t need to agree to anything KC = Kirk Cousins Why would he want to work out a deal with Denver before hitting FA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: This makes no sense. So any player who is a free agent come March can be traded by the team they played for last year before March? It defeats the purpose of free agency. Unless it is some kind of quirk with players who played under the franchise tag. Maybe the Redskins threatened to tag him and gave him the Denver avenue as a way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Cousins and Denver agree to a long-term deal. Washington and Denver agree to trade compensation. Washington signs him to the deal he worked out with Denver and trades him to Denver. Wouldnt that eliminate any signing bonus? i suppose they could make it a roster bonus but then you couldn't amortize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: KC = Kirk Cousins Why would he want to work out a deal with Denver before hitting FA? Oh lol thought you meant Chefs. I don’t know why he would ...but maybe he knows that’s where he wants to go, they want him, he doesn’t want to go through FA, and they are going to give him the money he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 It's just crazy that these "big" QB moves can happen before the super bowl is even played, yet Eric Wood couldn't officially retire because of some language in the CBA. Brutal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, RochesterRob said: Maybe the Redskins threatened to tag him and gave him the Denver avenue as a way out. It's a completely hollow threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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