cba fan Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's not going to happen. Wentz is the unquestioned starter and franchise QB and Foles won't be released. Foles could be traded if Wentz is 100% ready to roll in week 1, but I'd be surprised if he's not an Eagle when preseason football begins. Eagles already conceded they may be willing to trade Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, cba fan said: Eagles already conceded they may be willing to trade Foles. As acknowledged in my post. My point is that it would be prudent to get clarity on the timetable for Wentz to return before they make a deal to move him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: Foles has one hit wonder written all over him. The thing about Foles is he actually did have an elite season a few years back. The most revealing thing I've read about him is that after that great season, coaches tried to make him into more of a pro-style mechanical qb rather than the point guard he truly is. Pederson told him to play point guard, and that's what he's been doing of late. He's great at that. He was a highly recruited basketball player out of high school. Christ, he was recruited by Georgetown to play point guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Coaching makes a HUGE difference. You're on to something there. Looking at how the Vikings and Eagles played with multiple QBs and QBs that aren't considered top shelf makes you think that the dearth of QBs in the league might to a great extent be due to lousy coaching. Those 2 teams really have showed that coaching and good team play around the QB make all the difference. Edited February 5, 2018 by keepthefaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Let Foles enjoy the parade! Someone from Philly should get him a Goat, put a TB12 jersey on it, hand Foles the leash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, cba fan said: Eagles already conceded they may be willing to trade Foles. cordy glenn is our ace in the hole on this deal. it's gonna take a pick and a player. i would hope the fo does what it takes to get him. now is the perfect time. i'd offer cordy and a second. i'd even eat the 6mil. and throw in tt. getting foles does a lot for us. it gives us a bonafide qb and .... we can still get one in the draft, but it would allow us to maximize the draft. we can always move no. 22 down and make that pick back. 2018 foles, peterman, rudolph done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, billsredneck1 said: cordy glenn is our ace in the hole on this deal. it's gonna take a pick and a player. i would hope the fo does what it takes to get him. now is the perfect time. i'd offer cordy and a second. i'd even eat the 6mil. and throw in tt. getting foles does a lot for us. it gives us a bonafide qb and .... we can still get one in the draft, but it would allow us to maximize the draft. we can always move no. 22 down and make that pick back. 2018 foles, peterman, rudolph done deal. They don't need Cordy Glenn with Peters and Lane Johnson at OT. They also have Vaitai who did a nice job at LT in Peters' absence not to mention they cannot afford to take on any of Glenn's contract with them already being over the cap for 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said: cordy glenn is our ace in the hole on this deal. it's gonna take a pick and a player. i would hope the fo does what it takes to get him. now is the perfect time. i'd offer cordy and a second. i'd even eat the 6mil. and throw in tt. getting foles does a lot for us. it gives us a bonafide qb and .... we can still get one in the draft, but it would allow us to maximize the draft. we can always move no. 22 down and make that pick back. 2018 foles, peterman, rudolph done deal. That's a lot to trade. You're also assuming they want glenn over peters. Peters has proven to be a better player than glenn when healthy, and neither are healthy. They're at the cap, they want picks not bad contracts. If anything they'd send Jimmy G was had for a 2nd as well, but he also didn't play like garbage from 2014-2015 either. Honestly though - he looked sharp and I would target him as a bridge/insurance policy if the draft doesn't fall your way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I just hope one of the QB hungry teams ahead of us decides he's their guy. I wouldn't risk it. Put him in the right situation and he might turn out to be a consistently above average guy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They don't need Cordy Glenn with Peters and Lane Johnson at OT. They also have Vaitai who did a nice job at LT in Peters' absence not to mention they cannot afford to take on any of Glenn's contract with them already being over the cap for 2018. I don't think anyone is going to want Glenn. He is injured and has a huge contract. If I'm a gm of another team, I'd ask why the Bills seem to want to get rid of him. They might get a later-round pick for him, but that's the best they'll get. I wouldn't be surprised to see him cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The thing about Foles is he actually did have an elite season a few years back. The most revealing thing I've read about him is that after that great season, coaches tried to make him into more of a pro-style mechanical qb rather than the point guard he truly is. Pederson told him to play point guard, and that's what he's been doing of late. He's great at that. He was a highly recruited basketball player out of high school. Christ, he was recruited by Georgetown to play point guard. It will be interesting to see what happens to him. I just wanted the Bills to draft a top prospect, but they won too many games, so that plan is shot to hell and back. Edited February 5, 2018 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, T-Bomb said: It will be interested to see what happens to him. I just wanted the Bills to draft a top prospect, but they won too many games, so that plan is shot to hell and back. I'd take a chance on him. I think Daboll is smart enough to utilize him correctly. Dennison? Not so much. So glad he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I don't think anyone is going to want Glenn. He is injured and has a huge contract. If I'm a gm of another team, I'd ask why the Bills seem to want to get rid of him. They might get a later-round pick for him, but that's the best they'll get. I wouldn't be surprised to see him cut. It depends on whether the foot/ankle procedure he recently had will actually resolve his season long issue that prevented him from staying on the field. If his health is good, he's too good of a player to outright release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: It depends on whether the foot/ankle procedure he recently had will actually resolve his season long issue that prevented him from staying on the field. If his health is good, he's too good of a player to outright release. I dunno. He just seems like he's morphed into an "oft-injured player." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 54 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Is Doug Pederson coming with Foles? Foles was very very poor the previous 3 years to this one, that is why no one went after him. 1:1 TD to INT ratio. No one was clamoring for him at the beginning of this year. Foles Keenum They are both fools gold. They will be the next Matt Flynns (IMO) Trust The Badol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) If the bills think Foles is the answer giving up a 2nd plus a conditional wud be ok ..remember garapolo only went for a 2nd cus Belichick didn't want to trade him to browns they offered their lower top 5 pick Edited February 5, 2018 by bills11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, dneveu said: That's a lot to trade. You're also assuming they want glenn over peters. Peters has proven to be a better player than glenn when healthy, and neither are healthy. They're at the cap, they want picks not bad contracts. If anything they'd send Jimmy G was had for a 2nd as well, but he also didn't play like garbage from 2014-2015 either. Honestly though - he looked sharp and I would target him as a bridge/insurance policy if the draft doesn't fall your way. Better bridge than TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 With the surprise runs of Foles and Keenum, who knows, could we be returning to a time of seeing guys who took a few years to develop and sustain success? I won't say yes because sustainability is the question. Does make me wonder if guys like Chase Daniel, AJ McCarron, and Landry Jones are also in that class of guys who could take that step if they got a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Magox said: The Bills should at the very least seriously entertain the thought of trading for Foles as a bridge QB. Daboll ran the RPO often with Alabama so he certainly has lots of experience running this style of offense and Foles has proven to be one of the best RPO QB's in the league when given a chance. That's what he did with Philly in 2013, which was one of the best statistical years a QB ever had in the NFL. Foles has shown that he can make all the plays and with the right coaching we have seen what he can do. I’m on board with this idea. Even grab Foles and pick up two developmental prospects in the draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Foles seems to be a genuinely humble guy but is he humble enough to want to go somewhere to be someone's bridge? "Hey guys, I just had a historic playoff run and have a SB MVP trophy on my mantle, but sure....I'd love to be your stop-gap till this unproven rook is ready. Where do I sign?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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