billsfan_34 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 For the OP- when is the last time you have been to a Bills game? If you have had the opportunity to see Shady run in person you realize rather quickly that a) how elite he is and that b) he has not lost a step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 hours ago, NewDayBills said: BS. Ezekiel Elliot changed the Cowboys, Adrian Peterson the Vikings and arguably the BEST BILLS PLAYER EVER was drafted in the FIRST round. Just because we missed on Spiller, it doesn't mean you never draft that position high again. By that logic, let's never draft a QB high again because we missed on Losman or never take a LT again because Mike Williams was a bust. What an idiotic and irrational way of thinking. No he really didnt. Anyone and i mean anyone could have run behind that OL last year. Try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 He is by far the best player on this team. There is zero reason to open yet another hole on this roster. What they NEED to do is upgrade the Oline, which has been terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: No he really didnt. Anyone and i mean anyone could have run behind that OL last year. Try again That's not even the point, even if you think Ezekiel sucks, which is a moronic view btw, there are doooooozens other 1st-2nd round picks that carried their franchise. To take a position off your board because of a past failure is unbelievably stupid. Given our track record, we might as well just forfeit our draft picks if that's your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, Woodman19 said: They are gearing towards rapidly getting younger, so it wouldn't surprise me if we go younger at RB. The Bills are gearing towards getting cheaper. They are one of the oldest teams in the NFL because they haven't gotten rid of older, expensive veterans in their effort to retool but have simply replaced more expensive players with cheaper ones. A team looking to really retool not simply cut salary would have cut Kyle Williams rather than trade Marcel Dareus if they felt the need to get rid of a DT, which was a stupid move in the middle of the season anyways, but then, the Bills are just special that way. Making stupid moves is the key to their success at avoiding the playoffs for this entire century. I expect Shady to be gone before next season, and likely Glenn, Incognito, and Clay as well. Maybe even Wood, too. Can't waste money on OLers and TEs, especially if they don't buy into the system by getting hurt. Edited November 27, 2017 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, The Poojer said: just saw this on twitter...not sure what he is referring to I'm hoping he means a lot left this season. Confusing post I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I'm hoping he means a lot left this season. Confusing post I agree I think he means his chase toward 10k yards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Doc said: What was obvious? That he'll be gone? Doubtful at best. Unless there are some issues that we haven't heard about. His contract was structured and designed to be broken after this year (and for good reason). Shifty 30-yr old RBs typically don't age gracefully -- they tend to hit a wall. He's certainly not part of the team's long range plans going forward. They simply need to get younger at the position. This front office isn't the type to wait for the car to fall apart before selling it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, QCity said: His contract was structured and designed to be broken after this year (and for good reason). Shifty 30-yr old RBs typically don't age gracefully -- they tend to hit a wall. He's certainly not part of the team's long range plans going forward. They simply need to get younger at the position. This front office isn't the type to wait for the car to fall apart before selling it. We don't even have a garage to put the car in, selling the one you have is asinine with so many glaring holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 McCoy won't be here when the Bills get good, so I'd trade him ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 ....a complimentary change of pace RB like Kenneth Davis to Thurmal would prolong his career..........we are no where near that................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: We don't even have a garage to put the car in, selling the one you have is asinine with so many glaring holes. It's kind of funny you say that, I sold an '06 last year and bought a '15, I'm actually saving money by upgrading. I sold my '06 to a dealership right before the head gasket was about to blow. Let somebody else deal with the repairs. With a 30 year old RB, it's the same situation. Even if you do keep Shady, it would be very wise to add a starter quality RB, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 It' possible to trade him for an additional sixth rounder and then have two shots at getting Brady and not one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Shady is definitely good enough to be on this roster next year but I see the Bills being smart (cap wise and where they are building the team) and moving on from him and the likes of Cordy Glenn, Kyle Williams, Charles Clay, Incognito and other big money guys. Call me crazy but I get the feeling the Bills are loading for bear and going to go full bore in an attempt to sign Cousins. Edited November 27, 2017 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, NewDayBills said: That's not even the point, even if you think Ezekiel sucks, which is a moronic view btw, there are doooooozens other 1st-2nd round picks that carried their franchise. To take a position off your board because of a past failure is unbelievably stupid. Given our track record, we might as well just forfeit our draft picks if that's your argument. Did i take it off my board. No. I said positional value. RBs are found all over the draft look at Bell, Kamara, Hunt (i am not going to continue). The positional value of the RB position is blah and should never use a 1st round pick on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, NewDayBills said: It's kind of funny you say that, I sold an '06 last year and bought a '15, I'm actually saving money by upgrading. I sold my '06 to a dealership right before the head gasket was about to blow. Let somebody else deal with the repairs. With a 30 year old RB, it's the same situation. Even if you do keep Shady, it would be very wise to add a starter quality RB, just in case. Agreed, but where are we getting a starter quality RB from? I'd rather risk the RB for one more year and draft a QB and a DT, OL, or LB, which are all GLARING needs and pick up a better backup in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I certainly hope not. I'm hoping that he's with us for a few more years. I think that Shady can have as long a career as Frank Gore and be just as effective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Shady reads TBD...obviously. Guess you can't complain about the fans running folks out of town anymore. Congrats on using the power of the fan to banish Shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Shady reads TBD...obviously. So he knows you're nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think Shady is definitely here next year. Im not a cap expert, but when I look at the over the cap site, I not sure about pre and post June cut implications. But it seems like he has 3.7 milion dollar savings in salary but he has 5.2 million in dead money. So for 3.7 million I can have him on the team and Im going to pay 5.2 either way, I'll keep him. Shady is playing for the HOF now. He's on a team that likes to rely on the running game.....He gets the carries, benefits the team and the player. He can move on for the 19 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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