Lets just go for Kirk Cousins in the offseason

[Big Turk]

44 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

 

Tyrod could not hold Cousins junk. From all the posts you wrote you obviously know jack squat about the Washington Redskins, bolded is 100% lame. Go see how Garcon and Jackson are doing without Cousins.

 

Cousins has no D, WR's, RB or O-line. For someone that sucks so bad, how does he have 24 games over 300 yards passing, 3 of which are over 400 yards? When Cousins was able to play with real WR's -> 2 of them went over 1000 yards and another real close with 850 yards.  All that he still had a weak running game and weak O-line play and made the playoffs.

 

Tyrod would look like one of the worst QB's in the league without a running game. When is the last time 3 Bills Wr's had 3000 yards combined in one season?  GOOD luck with that.

 

 

 

 

I never said he sucks. I said he doesnt win. Reading comprehension is fundamental. He pits up numbers. Lots of them.  All too often they are worthless. What he do when the Redskins need a play from him? Too often nothing.  

 

I'm not paying a franchise guy to come up small when the stakes are the biggest. That's sheer stupidity.

16 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

But that's not how it works. Wins are a TEAM stat, not a QB stat. Upgrading the QB spot improves the team, which will in all likelihood improve the W/L. 

 

Sure...here we go with this nonsense. Go look up net point differential between the 2 teams over the past 3 seasons. Its nearly identical and slightly in favor of the Redskins. These are arguments from people who look at boxscoress and numbers and have no clue about the game inside the game.

 

If Cousins is so great, he should have a much better record than Taylor does because the teams are similar. Thats the entire point...a guy you are paying $25+ million to should be carrying the team not need everyone to carry him. And he doesnt have the Patriots to play twice a year.  He doesn't. Its worse. Because he just isnt that guy who is going to win you a lot of games. The same way Philip Rivers isnt that guy.

 

There is no possible way you can talk about how great Cousins is yet then talk about how his won loss record means nothing. That doesn't even make sense. QBs make up for so many deficiencies in the NFL that if he is that good he should be having a much bettee record than they do. Its not like they have the worst defense in NFL history like New Orleans did a few years ago...

 

You dont pay franchise money to people who arent franchise players. Its that simple.  I'd take Tyrod over Cousins. We'd win more games trust me.

 

The argument makes ZERO sense. Oh he needs all these pieces around him. Well how are you going to out all these pieces around him when he is taking up that much of your cap???

 

It doesnt work like that...if you pay a guy that kind of money he HAS to be able to make up for you not being able to put as good of talent around him as you could otherwise if you weren't paying him that much. Peyton Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Roethlesberger, Wilson...those are guys you pay huge money to because they are going to win anyways...you dont pay huge money to a guy who you then have to put the same number of pieces around as a guy that you could pay $10-12 million to...it MAKES NO SENSE

 

 

Edited December 14, 2017 by matter2003

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, matter2003 said:

Anyone trading a number one pick for Alex Smith should be fired before they can do it.

 

This is ludicrous

 He is going to get cut. Why would you offer them anything? Just wait for him to be cut.

 

IF he gets cut, then you'll have to out bid everyone else for him.  Could be more than Cousins even.  He will be heavily sought after I suspect.I'd  also make sure we don't get out horse traded this time either.   A lot of teams need QBs, not just us.  That's why I'd do it, but I can't get fired because I don't have the job 

Edited December 14, 2017 by reddogblitz

[GoBills808]

25 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

I never said he sucks. I said he doesnt win. Reading comprehension is fundamental. He pits up numbers. Lots of them.  All too often they are worthless. What he do when the Redskins need a play from him? Too often nothing.  

 

I'm not paying a franchise guy to come up small when the stakes are the biggest. That's sheer stupidity.

 

Sure...here we go with this nonsense. Go look up net point differential between the 2 teams over the past 3 seasons. Its nearly identical and slightly in favor of the Redskins. These are arguments from people who look at boxscoress and numbers and have no clue about the game inside the game.

 

If Cousins is so great, he should have a much better record than Taylor does because the teams are similar. Thats the entire point...a guy you are paying $25+ million to should be carrying the team not need everyone to carry him. And he doesnt have the Patriots to play twice a year.  He doesn't. Its worse. Because he just isnt that guy who is going to win you a lot of games. The same way Philip Rivers isnt that guy.

 

There is no possible way you can talk about how great Cousins is yet then talk about how his won loss record means nothing. That doesn't even make sense. QBs make up for so many deficiencies in the NFL that if he is that good he should be having a much bettee record than they do. Its not like they have the worst defense in NFL history like New Orleans did a few years ago...

 

You dont pay franchise money to people who arent franchise players. Its that simple.  I'd take Tyrod over Cousins. We'd win more games trust me.

 

The argument makes ZERO sense. Oh he needs all these pieces around him. Well how are you going to out all these pieces around him when he is taking up that much of your cap???

 

It doesnt work like that...if you pay a guy that kind of money he HAS to be able to make up for you not being able to put as good of talent around him as you could otherwise if you weren't paying him that much. Peyton Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Roethlesberger, Wilson...those are guys you pay huge money to because they are going to win anyways...you dont pay huge money to a guy who you then have to put the same number of pieces around as a guy that you could pay $10-12 million to...it MAKES NO SENSE

 

 

Redskins are the 24th ranked defense by yards this year. Dead last in points allowed. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Real McClappy]

6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Redskins are the 24th ranked defense by yards this year. Dead last in points allowed. You don't know what you're talking about.

He really doesn't at all.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Real McCoy said:

He really doesn't at all.

Cousins is putting up franchise numbers this season throwing to Ryan Grant and Jamison Crowder...and for the record: over the last 3 years Washington's defense has been incontrovertibly worse than ours.

 

It's such a bad argument he's making.

[Real McClappy]

8 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Cousins is putting up franchise numbers this season throwing to Ryan Grant and Jamison Crowder...and for the record: over the last 3 years Washington's defense has been incontrovertibly worse than ours.

 

It's such a bad argument he's making.

The D has been flat out bad. RB's are not stellar (I do like Thompson though) and O-line is ranked as one of the worst in the league. 

 

There are so many Bills fans that can't identify what a real QB looks like anymore in the league. 

 

To all their own.

Edited December 14, 2017 by Real McCoy

[GoBills808]

I had Thompson in fantasy before he broke his leg. He's a great utility player but nowhere near, say, McCoy as a running back. 

[YoloinOhio]

Looks like Denver will be after him too (SIAP)

 

[CommonCents]

Read through most of this but not all of it. 

 

I'd be hesitant to pay Cousins if I was working at OBD. I wouldn't like the numbers, the resume, or the way his signing would align with my draft pile. 

 

Sign Cousins this offseason, draft a ton of young guys and then wait for their impact? Bleh. It could work but it's certainly a desperation move. 

 

Use the picks wisely, continue to eliminate bad contracts, don't jump into another one to try and salvage the 18' season.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Redskins are the 24th ranked defense by yards this year. Dead last in points allowed. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm talking over a 3 year period...you obviously have trouble with reading as well.

But regardless of that. Look at net point differential not one side of the ball or the other.

 

Redskins are a -4.6

Bills are a -3.8

 

Close enough for comparison's sake a net difference of 10 points.  Let's not act like the Bills have positive differential even though they have a winning record.  

Most Redskins fans will tell they don't have a problem with getting a new QB in there...

 

 

Last year they were 19th in scoring defense, Bills were 16th.  We we 0.3 points per game better than them, amounting to 5 whole points over the course of a season fewer allowed.

 

He went 8-7-1  Tyrod went 7-8. This year Tyrod is 7-5, Cousins is 5-8.    I'm not paying someone that type of money to produce a worse record over the course of 2 seasons, sorry.  Franchise QBs who want franchise dollars need ro produce franchise results.

 

You keep grasping at straws, but at the end of the day whoever gets Cousins will end up between 7-9 and 9-7 most years.  Just like Rivers has been. You can try and justify it, point out all the reasons, and whatever else you want to do.

 

Franshise QBs are expected to carry teams, not be carried.

 

Edited December 14, 2017 by matter2003

[baskingridgebillsfan]

On ‎11‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 8:54 PM, The Frankish Reich said:

Nope. If the last 3 games have taught us anything, it's this:  this team is nowhere near being able to compete. That tells me that it's time to go with a rookie QB

wait if they sign Cousins and use the 5 premium picks to fix the defense you don't think they can compete?

they have the money.  If he is available I think you go get him 5 years 135 is the likely price.  Solid top ten qb.  Once you get him it doesn't mean you stop drafting them . It just means you will have solid qb play .  

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Cousins is putting up franchise numbers this season throwing to Ryan Grant and Jamison Crowder...and for the record: over the last 3 years Washington's defense has been incontrovertibly worse than ours.

 

It's such a bad argument he's making.

Right...it a whole 0.3 points worse than ours last year in points allowed per game(5 points over he season) and 1.3 points worse than us per game the year before( 21 points over the course of a season).

 

And since you want to claim defense is the big issue why he can't get to the playoffs or produce anything better than a 9-7 record,

 

Miami had an almost identical defense to the Redskins last year(0.1 PPG better).  Made the playoffs.  With New England in our division.

Oakland had a worse defense than the Redskins last year.  Made the playoffs and won the division.

Green Bay had a worse defense than Redskins last year.  Made the playoffs.

Atlanta had a worse defense than the Redskins last year.  Went to the super bowl.

 

Your arguments fall flat on their face in numerous ways, and yet you still want to try and justify some dude who produces mediocre at best records year after year, while other players have worse defenses than him and make the playoffs.  

 

You don't pay Franchise money to people who aren't franchise players. Period.  I can't make it simpler than that.  If he was THAT good, the Redskins would have signed him to a long term extension long ago.  They don't think he is a franchise player, a lot of scouts don't think he is a franchise player, and a lot of their own fans who've seen him play a LOT more than you or me don't think he is a franshise player.  And you you keep harping that he is worth a franchise contract.  He isn't.  No other way to put it.

Edited December 14, 2017 by matter2003

[MAJBobby]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Looks like Denver will be after him too (SIAP)

 

But i thought i read here from alot of people Taylor was going there and going to excel and that was a forgone conclusion

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Right...it a whole 0.3 points worse than ours last year in points allowed per game(5 points over he season) and 1.3 points worse than us per game the year before( 21 points over the course of a season).

 

And since you want to claim defense is the big issue why he can't get to the playoffs or produce anything better than a 9-7 record,

 

Miami had an almost identical defense to the Redskins last year(0.1 PPG better).  Made the playoffs.  With New England in our division.

Oakland had a worse defense than the Redskins last year.  Made the playoffs and won the division.

Green Bay had a worse defense than Redskins last year.  Made the playoffs.

Atlanta had a worse defense than the Redskins last year.  Went to the super bowl.

 

Your arguments fall flat on their face in numerous ways, and yet you still want to try and justify some dude who produces mediocre at best records year after year, while other players have worse defenses than him and make the playoffs.  

 

You don't pay Franchise money to people who aren't franchise players. Period.  I can't make it simpler than that.  If he was THAT good, the Redskins would have signed him to a long term extension long ago.  They don't think he is a franchise player, a lot of scouts don't think he is a franchise player, and a lot of their own fans who've seen him play a LOT more than you or me don't think he is a franshise player.  And you you keep harping that he is worth a franchise contract.  He isn't.  No other way to put it.

QBs don’t ‘produce’ records. Teams do. 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

QBs don’t ‘produce’ records. Teams do. 

 

Right, so you want to have it both ways.  Tell that to Indianapolis after they made the playoffs with Manning and went 1-15 the next year when he was out.  If you put a backup in for Cousins you likely wouldn't have a worse record.  You just don't understand that you don't pay top dollar for people who don't produce anything better than mediocre results.  You see boxscores and stats but don't understand fundamental concepts.  That's the problem.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2017 by matter2003

[GoBills808]

Just now, matter2003 said:

 

Right, so you want to have it both ways.  Tell that to Indianapolis after they made the playoffs with Manning and went 1-15 the next year when he was out.  

Using a teams record to judge its quarterback is simply not the way to do it. That’s all I’ll say.

[Big Turk]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

Using a teams record to judge its quarterback is simply not the way to do it. That’s all I’ll say.

You can say that, but when you can replace a "franchise QB" with his backup and get the same record it doesn't say much for that QB.

[baskingridgebillsfan]

if quarterbacks produced records then Dan Mario would have been 14-2 every year 

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said:

if quarterbacks produced records then Dan Mario would have been 14-2 every year 

Dan Marino went to a super bowl and made the playoffs almost every year(and lost to the Bills). Don't even mention him in the same sentence as Cousins.

Edited December 14, 2017 by matter2003

[baskingridgebillsfan]

1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

Dan Marino went to a super bowl and made the playoffs almost every year(and lost to the Bills). Don't even mention him in the same sentence as Cousins.

I am not comparing them. The point is you can be a good qb on a bad team.  Stafford, Rivers, luck all have played on sub 500 teams 

[Big Turk]

12 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said:

I am not comparing them. The point is you can be a good qb on a bad team.  Stafford, Rivers, luck all have played on sub 500 teams 

 

You can, but when it happens regularly I'd question just how "good" the QB actually is at doing anything other than putting up stats.  Franchise QB's have to be able to overcome some things because you are ALWAYS going to have some holes on your team if you are paying a QB that much money.  If he can't overcome them, then how can he actually be worth it when those same holes are going to be there year after year?  Which is why Rivers and Stafford tend to go 7-9 to 9-7 or the odd 10-6 many years...

 

That's the entire point I am making.  You are ALWAYS going to have deficiencies on your roster when you are paying a QB that much money. He HAS to be able to overcome them more than half the time to be worth paying him that much money.  People want to pretend like you just go pay a QB 25-30 million and then just go fill all the holes on your roster and you'll win a Super Bowl.  It doesn't work that way.  You are going to lose 2-3 players a year just because you can't afford to keep them because you are paying the QB that money.   

 

If the answer to "how many more games will I win playing my franchise QB instead of my backup?" isn't at least 4, he shouldn't be your franchise QB. 

If the answer to  "how often can my QB take me to the playoffs with an average roster?" isn't at least 60-65% of the time, he shouldn't be your franchise QB.

If the answer to "what level of talent do I need to surround my QB with to have him take us to the playoffs?" is high.  He shouldn't be your franchise QB.

 

Because it just isn't worth paying the money to get the same results you could get from a lesser QB and pay him less money and actually PUT more people around him.

 

Cousins doesn't pass the smell test on this one.  Just like Rivers doesn't. Or Flacco.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2017 by matter2003

[baskingridgebillsfan]

8 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

You can, but when it happens regularly I'd question just how "good" the QB actually is at doing anything other than putting up stats.  Franchise QB's have to be able to overcome some things because you are ALWAYS going to have some holes on your team if you are paying a QB that much money.  If he can't overcome them, then how can he actually be worth it when those same holes are going to be there year after year?  Which is why Rivers and Stafford tend to go 7-9 to 9-7 or the odd 10-6 many years...

 

If the answer to "how many more games will I win playing my franchise QB instead of my backup?" isn't at least 4, he shouldn't be your franchise QB.  If the answer to  "how often can my QB take me to the playoffs with an average roster?" isn't at least 60% of the time, he shouldn't be your franchise QB.

 

That's the entire point I am making.  You are ALWAYS going to have deficiencies on your roster when you are paying a QB that much money. He HAS to be able to overcome them more than half the time to be worth paying him that much money.  People want to pretend like you just go pay a QB 25-30 million and then just go fill all the holes on your roster and you'll win a Super Bowl.  It doesn't work that way.  You are going to lose 2-3 players a year just because you can't afford to keep them because you are paying the QB that money.   

 

Cousins doesn't pass the smell test on this one.  Just like Rivers doesn't.

 

 

this it the thinking that leads to the last 17 years .  Cousins is a big time upgrade.   as far cap . if you take Taylor add what is left and subtract Kyle Williams you get to around 15 million.  you can still build a fine roster . 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said:

this it the thinking that leads to the last 17 years .  Cousins is a big time upgrade.   as far cap . if you take Taylor add what is left and subtract Kyle Williams you get to around 15 million.  you can still build a fine roster . 

 

No, its we haven't drafted a QB well enough that has led to the last 17 years.  Overpaying for a player who will not overcome deficiencies that a QB HAS to overcome is just stupidity and will ensure you will continue to miss the playoffs.  I'd pay Case Keenum $15 million all day before I'd pay Cousins $25 million.  All day and twice on Sunday.  And I'd win more games with him straight up on the same roster.  Keenum has had the light switch flip on.  Cousins has not.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2017 by matter2003

[GoBills808]

21 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

You can say that, but when you can replace a "franchise QB" with his backup and get the same record it doesn't say much for that QB.

I’ve been posting his stats in this thread and others. So no offense, because you may have some legitimate concerns about Cousins, but posting about the Redskins’ record during his time there isn’t a convincing argument at all.

[Big Turk]

13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I’ve been posting his stats in this thread and others. So no offense, because you may have some legitimate concerns about Cousins, but posting about the Redskins’ record during his time there isn’t a convincing argument at all.

 

It absolutely is, because it points to his ability to overcome deficiencies on the roster that will ALWAYS be there precisely because you are paying him so much money.  The two go hand in hand with each other.  What? You think we are going to just magically figure a way out to keep the 2 or 3 players a year these other teams can't and not lose them because we are in tight against the cap with a high paid QB? No other team in the league has other than NE because their QB gives them a discount because his wife makes more than he does and players take discounts to go play there due to their track record over the past 15 years. We have the opposite track record.

 

Until Cousins can show he can do it at least once, I will assume he can't and I damn sure am not paying top dollar for a mystery box where you have no clue what you have inside.

 

Actually I just want to watch a game where Cousins completely takes over it.  I still don't know if I've ever seen that from him yet, for all his stats.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2017 by matter2003

[BuffaloHokie13]

10 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

I’ve been posting his stats in this thread and others. So no offense, because you may have some legitimate concerns about Cousins, but posting about the Redskins’ record during his time there isn’t a convincing argument at all.

He's been very good from an efficiency standpoint, and maintained that efficiency at a high volume. I like him quite a bit.

[baskingridgebillsfan]

28 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Bills fans don't care about wins.

 

They want 300 yards passing from their QB. It's just as good as a victory. 

300 yards?  now that is crazy talk.   

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Looks like Denver will be after him too (SIAP)

 

The KC chase -

 

Denver,  NYG,  NYJ, Arizona, Cleveland, Jaguars, Indy, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore.  

Honorable mentions - Saints, Dolphins

 

42 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Bills fans don't care about wins.

 

They want 300 yards passing from their QB. It's just as good as a victory. 

Just like Tom Brady...  well except for last Sunday 

Thats a joke Scott .... 

[Mat68]

19 hours ago, BigBuff423 said:

 

If you take Cousins and pay him, you're virtually guaranteeing yourself you will need to fill almost every other hole via Draft, meaning you'll need every pick you've got and then some....so, to take a QB early would not be a wise investment...now, if you found a guy like Russell Wilson in the 3rd, then you Draft him and see what happens. But if you're taking Cousins, you need to make early gains on your 4 picks in the first 2 rounds.

 

There is some thought you could have both Cousins AND Allen....I doubt the others, but Allen might still be there in the mid-rounds, and almost certainly in Round 2. I'm not advocating one way or the other, but if you're prone to doing that sort of thing, it probably could be done without moving picks.

I dont  believe Allen makes is out of the top 10.   His athleticism, size and arm are off the charts.  Prospects with that combination do not fall in the draft.    I dont think you can bring in Cousins and trade up for a Qb the same year.  To get Allen Buffalo will need to leap in front of  the Broncos, and Jets at minimum. 

Edited December 14, 2017 by Mat68

[bmur66]

Sure would be nice to have a proven QB and a whole bunch of draft pics

[Mat68]

If im bringing in any vet i am calling up indy and offering 2 first for Luck.  He is a franchise Qb. 

[Buffalo03]

16 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

At the end of the day the only stat that matters. Cousins is not an upgrade to that. 

 

How does he have a worse record than Tyrod then? Some QBs put up lots of numbers but don't win you games. Cousins falls squarely into this category.  Too many people want numbers. I dont need a QB to throw 4500 yards and finish 8-8. That's not good enough sorry, nor does it make sense on ANY level to pay a guy that much to produce that result.

You're putting way too much emphasis on this stuff. You act like he is the whole team. You have to have more than just a QB to be successful. A better QB than Tyrod which he is will make your team better. How many playoff games has Drew Brees won in the last 3 years? How many Super Bowls did Dan Marino win? Those are Hall of Fame QBs that didn't have the extra pieces they needed to make a run but you better believe the Dolphins wouldn't have even had a chance without Marino. He made that team better than it was. 

 

What other assets does Kirk have around him in washington? The defense isn't that great. He lost his two main receivers and his tight end is always hurt and he is still much better than anything we have had the last 15 years. The first step toward a successful franchise is a 4000 yard passer. Once you do that and put the necessary pieces around him then you have a contender

[GoBills808]

3 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

He's been very good from an efficiency standpoint, and maintained that efficiency at a high volume. I like him quite a bit.

Means quite a bit coming from you, he's been a consistent top ten QB IMO since he was named starter in Washington. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

32 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Means quite a bit coming from you, he's been a consistent top ten QB IMO since he was named starter in Washington. 

He's one of only 3 QBs who have finished top 10 in 2015, 2016, and 2017 (obviously not finished this year yet, but he's there right now) in my rankings. The other 2 are Brady & Brees. Stafford finished top 10 in 15 and 16, but is just outside right now this year.

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

He's one of only 3 QBs who have finished top 10 in 2015, 2016, and 2017 (obviously not finished this year yet, but he's there right now) in my rankings. The other 2 are Brady & Brees. Stafford finished top 10 in 15 and 16, but is just outside right now this year.

I think people really underestimate how badly that front office handled the RGIII/Cousins transition and how the bad blood there impacted his career. When you look at how he's performed despite the circumstances...I think it's pretty remarkable, personally. IMO there just aren't many opportunities like this in the NFL to obtain a 27 year old guy with the talent Cousins has. You're getting a proven franchise caliber QB in a transitional year with a boatload of draft capital...to me it's the option most likely to pay dividends, soonest. Maybe not the absolute highest return (hitting on a first round QB is ALWAYS best), but not far off either.

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

I think people really underestimate how badly that front office handled the RGIII/Cousins transition and how the bad blood there impacted his career. When you look at how he's performed despite the circumstances...I think it's pretty remarkable, personally. IMO there just aren't many opportunities like this in the NFL to obtain a 27 year old guy with the talent Cousins has. You're getting a proven franchise caliber QB in a transitional year with a boatload of draft capital...to me it's the option most likely to pay dividends, soonest. Maybe not the absolute highest return (hitting on a first round QB is ALWAYS best), but not far off either.

Exactly where I'm at, tbh.

[baskingridgebillsfan]

2 hours ago, Mat68 said:

If im bringing in any vet i am calling up indy and offering 2 first for Luck.  He is a franchise Qb. 

your two first are openers.  you better be prepared to add to it.  For luck if he is healthy I am in .   

[reddogblitz]

4 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Bills fans don't care about wins.

 

They want 300 yards passing from their QB. It's just as good as a victory. 

 

i would rather lose with a QB throwing for over 300 yards than win with a guy that can't pass to save his A$$.

Edited December 14, 2017 by reddogblitz

[Sweats]

Cousins is going to be a hot commodity in the off season. A lot of teams are going to go after him............i'm pretty sure we're going to overpay and give up too many draft picks to acquire him.

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, Sweats said:

Cousins is going to be a hot commodity in the off season. A lot of teams are going to go after him............i'm pretty sure we're going to overpay and give up too many draft picks to acquire him.

 

Draft picks?