LA Grant Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I felt like this was worth it's own topic rather than it being lost in the 100th page of the other Tyrod thread. Take a look: https://imgur.com/AIlRjGJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 In before doesn't count cuz Tyrod has been in the league for 40 years and Wilson won a superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/gwd_career.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, LA Grant said: I felt like this was worth it's own topic rather than it being lost in the 100th page of the other Tyrod thread. Take a look: https://imgur.com/AIlRjGJ Rookie thru Three years and SBs Vet with many many more year and same flaws as when left college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Rookie thru Three years and SBs Vet with many many more year and same flaws as when left college ...and had one of the best defenses in recent history; and also best home field advantage. Lets not forget the complete package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, bobobonators said: ...and had one of the best defenses in recent history; and also best home field advantage. Lets not forget the complete package. Oh, and coaching and playmakers everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Guys , let's stop making excuses for TT. Yes, he has nice stats but he doesn't scare NFL defenses with his arm!! As MAJ said, TT is a "bridge" QB. He's a Frank Reich type QB. Good enough to win you games, but can't put team on his back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Someone tell me what it all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Someone tell me what it all means. I think it means we need to switch defences with Seattle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Until Tyrod can catch that sure interception against the Jets and until he doesn't fumble while reaching for a first down and until he stops giving up 3000 yards passing per game and until he is able to stop the run this team will lose games under his leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Someone tell me what it all means. It means he wants to compare a QB with playoff experience to a guy not yet there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 26 minutes ago, the skycap said: Guys , let's stop making excuses for TT. Yes, he has nice stats but he doesn't scare NFL defenses with his arm!! As MAJ said, TT is a "bridge" QB. He's a Frank Reich type QB. Good enough to win you games, but can't put team on his back. But does he scare them overall? That is the better question, and a more reasonable question. Be fair and balanced in our love/hate scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: In before doesn't count cuz Tyrod has been in the league for 40 years and Wilson won a superbowl. While being able to sit and learn for four years is a definite advantage over a rookie coming in fresh, NFL people say all the time that you can only learn so much on the bench, you have to get game experience to progress as a QB. Wilson has started now for 5-1/2 years, Tyrod has started for 2-1/2 years. Let's let it play out. Plus, let's not forget the advantages that Wilson had over Tyrod in relation to the situations they were walking into: Tyrod came to a team in the midst of a 17-year playoff drought, with a bad Head Coach in the first year with the team and who destroyed a good defense. Wilson was walking into a team with an excellent head coach in his third season with the team and arguably the best defense in the NFL; historically good---Althon Sports ranks the 2013 Seattle defense (Wilson's 2nd year) as the 4th best ever in the history of the NFL, just behind the steel curtain; Gil Brandt of NFL.com also has that defense 4th best ever...you get the point. Oh, and Marshawn Lynch in his best years. Another point is that Wilson had consistent receiving targets. He's had 5-1/2 years with Doug Baldwin, 5 years with Kearse, 3 years with Jimmy Graham and Tyler Lockett, and 2 years with Golden Tate. They may not represent an awesome receiving corps., but really solid and they were able to build a rapport because none of these guys missed extended playing time due to injuries. Tyrod has not had that stability in his receiving corps, nor no where near the talent when Sammy and/or Woods were injured. In his first 2-1/2 years Wilson had a healthy Doug Baldwin for 38 games. Tyrod had Sammy for 21 games and some of those games he was playing injured. That stuff makes a difference. Too many people look at things in a vacuum. Anyhow, Tyrod is the man for the rest of this year, so why not just take a wait and see approach. With Benjamin now in the fold, I think we'll have a good idea by the end of the year where we are, as a team, with Tyrod at the QB position and which way they'll need to go moving forward. So just sit back and enjoy the ride till then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, the skycap said: Guys , let's stop making excuses for TT. Yes, he has nice stats but he doesn't scare NFL defenses with his arm!! As MAJ said, TT is a "bridge" QB. He's a Frank Reich type QB. Good enough to win you games, but can't put team on his back. I think he would certainly scare defences if they let him play more out of the pocket......big difference in the plays when this happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, JPP said: I think he would certainly scare defences if they let him play more out of the pocket......big difference in the plays when this happens... What happens when teams don't allow him out of the pocket a la Cincy and Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: It means he wants to compare a QB with playoff experience to a guy not yet there. Yeah because whether or not a QB has been to the playoffs is ONLY on the QB. Tell that to Brees who has not sniffed playoffs in last 5 years despite averaging nearly 5000 yards per season and gaudy TD's. Your comment is about as weak as it gets for a rebuttal and utterly useless in the discussion. Seattle has had a great roster with great coaching. Tyrod had the idiot Ryan brothers, one of the worst D's in the league for his first 2 years, 3 OC's, and a piss poor cupboard of weapons. Yet DESPITE all the disadvantages, hes nearly mirrored what Russel did with superior everything around him. You need a new schtick, the one you keep sticking too contradicts all reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Until Tyrod can catch that sure interception against the Jets and until he doesn't fumble while reaching for a first down and until he stops giving up 3000 yards passing per game and until he is able to stop the run this team will lose games under his leadership. Ooo back to last year excuses of blaming the defense cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Can we compare playoff statistics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just now, MAJBobby said: Ooo back to last year excuses of blaming the defense cool makes more sense than blaming the whole team's bs on one dude. no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, the skycap said: What happens when teams don't allow him out of the pocket a la Cincy and Jets Well i can talk about the Jets game as it just happened.....cant recall specifics about the Cinci game.....but with the jets our line played the worse they did this season in fact as far as i can remember...it was horrible....starts with the line.....many times he played out of the pocket and some of those plays were bang on! He is most dangerous on the run and when he does throw,,,,,,it seems he connects morso than just sitting in the pocket...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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