Mark Vader Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: How many are in FCS? 24 teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: 24 teams Nice, think you would need to have 32 to divide up evenly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark Vader Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Nice, think you would need to have 32 to divide up evenly? That would be a lot, but it could be done. You would have the entire Top 25 covered and it would give more opportunities to mid-major teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Mark Vader said: That would be a lot, but it could be done. You would have the entire Top 25 covered and it would give more opportunities to mid-major teams. What I mean is when you break down 24 in halves you eventually get to a final 3 instead of 4. Do some of the teams not play the first round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: What I mean is when you break down 24 in halves you eventually get to a final 3 instead of 4. Do some of the teams not play the first round? They do not. The top 8 seeded teams get a bye week, while the other teams play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: They do not. The top 8 seeded teams get a bye week, while the other teams play. That makes sense, keeps the number of teams down while rewarding the best teams thereby keeping the inseason games important. FBS should totally do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Mark Vader said: That would be a lot, but it could be done. You would have the entire Top 25 covered and it would give more opportunities to mid-major teams. Why is this needed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 44 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: That makes sense, keeps the number of teams down while rewarding the best teams thereby keeping the inseason games important. FBS should totally do this. Here's the bracket: http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/football/fcs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 As a UGA fan it is nice to control what happens. Win and in. Unfortunately that means beating the hottest team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 8 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: As a UGA fan it is nice to control what happens. Win and in. Unfortunately that means beating the hottest team. The hottest team who dropped the smack down on UGA once already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I think the playoffs should go to 8. I am not in favour at this stage of expanding beyond 8. I think at that point you risk getting too many games where the outcome is pretty much known beforehand. If I was picking a final 4 now it would be Clemson, Georgia, Wisconsin and Oklahoma. That obviously has the potential to change as the Championship games are played but I struggle to find a route in for 'Bama. If all 4 of those win their Championship games they are in. If Auburn defeats Georgia then I say Auburn jumps Georgia and gets in as a Conference Champ and despite being a 2 loss team it has the H2H over 'Bama and therefore is ahead of them too. If Miami defeats Clemson they are in..... Clemson is probably out at that point but their SOS means it isn't impossible that both make it. If TCU win I think they jump Oklahoma too although that one might be a bit more controversial given that in their regular season meeting Oklahoma beat them and beat them well. Where it gets interesting is what happens with the 4th spot if Clemson, Georgia and Oklahoma all win but Ohio State defeat Wisconsin. The contenders as I see it would then be Ohio State, Wisconsin, Alabama and maybe if they win their championship game USC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) lane is out of control No love lost between he and Saban eh Edited November 28, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 On 11/26/2017 at 4:41 PM, YoloinOhio said: I'm sorry, how is it possible to have a win over an undefeated team? At that point it'd be a win over a 1 loss team, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm sorry, how is it possible to have a win over an undefeated team? At that point it'd be a win over a 1 loss team, no? Yes I think she means a previously undefeated power 5 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Yes I think she means a previously undefeated power 5 team Yeah. It's just awful wording. Have a win over only undefeated team left. Makes much more sense to say gave them their only loss imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 hours ago, /dev/null said: The hottest team who dropped the smack down on UGA once already They sure did. No denying it. Interested to see what the OC for UGA can come up with blocking wise to get UGA's backs some room to run. AU is just to big and physical right now to play man on man with them. Smart said when he took the job that UGA had to get a lot bigger along the lines, and he is recruiting that way. Saturday is going to be an amazing day of football. I can not wait to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: lane is out of control No love lost between he and Saban eh Why isn't name in the SEC Championship, they only have one loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Why isn't name in the SEC Championship, they only have one loss? SEC is divided into divisions, like the Big 10. Auburn is in their division. They had to beat them for the right to play UGA who won the other division. Same thing happened to OSU last year. Their only loss was to PSU, but PSU was in their division. Even though PSU had 2 losses, only one was in the big 10. They won the tiebreaker over OSU because of the head to head. That’s how PSU ultimately won the big 10 but OSU went to the playoff. They had 2 bad losses on their resume, OSU had 1 “good” loss and three very good wins. Of course, bama can still get in if a few things go their way. They just don’t have a great resume of wins this year. Edited November 28, 2017 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: SEC is divided into divisions, like the Big 10. Auburn is in their division. They had to beat them for the right to play UGA who won the other division. Same thing happened to OSU last year. Their only loss was to PSU, but PSU was in their division. Even though PSU had 2 losses, only one was in the big 10. They won the tiebreaker over OSU because of the head to head. That’s how PSU ultimately won the big 10 but OSU went to the playoff. They had 2 bad losses on their resume, OSU had 1 “good” loss and three very good wins. Of course, bama can still get in if a few things go their way. They just don’t have a great resume of wins this year. They really don't have a great resume this year. They beat Miss St and LSU. Other than that i do not see it. If i do not like Ohio State getting in because of their name or the way they travel, i have to hold Bama to that same stipulation. In my perfect world it is UGA, Okla, Clemson/Miami , Wisc. I am a big UGA fan . There are a lot of similarities in being a Dawg fan and a Bills fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: They really don't have a great resume this year. They beat Miss St and LSU. Other than that i do not see it. If i do not like Ohio State getting in because of their name or the way they travel, i have to hold Bama to that same stipulation. In my perfect world it is UGA, Okla, Clemson/Miami , Wisc. I am a big UGA fan . There are a lot of similarities in being a Dawg fan and a Bills fan. I can see that, but, regardless of whether UGA gets in this year I think they are clearly now at a level they haven’t been in awhile and with their recruiting they will be a playoff contender every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Wow, 2-loss Auburn at #2! The committee loves the wins... Clemson at 1 with the strongest resume of all basically cancels out their loss to Cuse (also their QB was hurt) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Willyville Guy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Wow, 2-loss Auburn at #2! The committee loves the wins... Clemson at 1 with the strongest resume of all basically cancels out their loss to Cuse (also their QB was hurt) Auburn deserves all the credit in the world for the incredible late-season wins. I wonder how much stronger they are right now compared to when they lost by eight points to Clemson on Sept. 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: Auburn deserves all the credit in the world for the incredible late-season wins. I wonder how much stronger they are right now compared to when they lost by eight points to Clemson on Sept. 9. Remind me who else beat Auburn... drawing a blank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Remind me who else beat Auburn... drawing a blank Hung 40 on Georgia. Edit: sorry, misread it. LSU beat Auburn. Edited November 29, 2017 by Willyville Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: Hung 40 on Georgia. Edit: sorry, misread it. LSU beat Auburn. Interesting. I’m surprised LSU beat them but it’s not as bad of a loss as Iowa, Cuse, Pitt, etc like some other teams have. I believe they are worthy of the #2 spot at this point in time based on their wins and the eye test. I do think if Miami beats Clemson, they could very well both get in based on how the rankings are set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Interesting. I’m surprised LSU beat them but it’s not as bad of a loss as Iowa, Cuse, Pitt, etc like some other teams have. I believe they are worthy of the #2 spot at this point in time based on their wins and the eye test. I do think if Miami beats Clemson, they could very well both get in based on how the rankings are set up. Agree. Clemson are the only team I think who could lose their championship game and get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Interesting. I’m surprised LSU beat them but it’s not as bad of a loss as Iowa, Cuse, Pitt, etc like some other teams have. I believe they are worthy of the #2 spot at this point in time based on their wins and the eye test. I do think if Miami beats Clemson, they could very well both get in based on how the rankings are set up. Not really. Auburn struggled badly for the first part of the season. They struggled out a win against Mercer, and blew 20-0 lead against LSU with really baffling play calling on offense. In the second half of the LSU game, Auburn ran the ball 17 straight times on first down. IIRC, Johnson was banged up in the beginning of the year. Pure speculation on my part, after the LSU game, Gus finally gave up the play calling to his OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I can see that, but, regardless of whether UGA gets in this year I think they are clearly now at a level they haven’t been in awhile and with their recruiting they will be a playoff contender every year. The big thing that will differentiate this staff for UGA is coaching up players once they get there. Richt had some pretty good classes come in and there are plenty of UGA players in the NFL. I think the playoffs are right on the money now. The easiest thing is for Clemson, Oklahoma, and Wisc to win their games this weekend. Then it will be them plus the winner of the SEC championship game in the playoffs. This weekend really is like a quarter finals. 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Agree. Clemson are the only team I think who could lose their championship game and get in. No way. There will not be 2 teams from the ACC in the playoffs. The committee knows that would be rating suicide. Not to mention they can justify a one loss Bama over 2 loss Clemson. They could also justify a two loss Ohio State or no loss Wisc over Clemson. There really is no way Clemson gets in if they lose. There is also no way all 4 of the 'favorites' win. It just will not work out that way. Someone will be crying come Sunday night. As a UGA fan, if the Dawgs win they are in. If the Dawgs lose, i want AU in with the other three winners of the conference games. It really should be that simple*. TCU could screw it all up. It will be a fun Saturday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Even if OSU wins Saturday which is a huge IF given the way they have played up and down this year, I just don’t think the committee will overlook their 31 point loss to Iowa. And I understand that. While they could certainly be one of the best 4 teams in the country on any given day, you can’t have that loss on your resume no matter how many good wins you have. And even though they say they don’t take last year into consideration, the fact that OSU got blanked vs Clemson last year, and beaten solidly by Oklahoma earlier this year... those are two teams they clearly don’t measure up against. And both will likely be in the playoff. If they do somehow beat the committee’s #4 team convincingly on Saturday, and their resume is bolstered to the point where they are more deserving than the others, i can see that but I’m not optimistic. The committee did say last night that there wasn’t much difference between #5 and #8 teams, and that conf championships will be very important criteria in tiebreakers. But to me, seems very unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 20 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Remind me who else beat Auburn... drawing a blank LSU (they blew a 20 point lead). I was at that one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Cynical said: Not really. Auburn struggled badly for the first part of the season. They struggled out a win against Mercer, and blew 20-0 lead against LSU with really baffling play calling on offense. In the second half of the LSU game, Auburn ran the ball 17 straight times on first down. IIRC, Johnson was banged up in the beginning of the year. Pure speculation on my part, after the LSU game, Gus finally gave up the play calling to his OC. I was surprised because LSU also really struggled early in the season. They lost to Troy. I didn’t even realize they beat Auburn. But I don’t watch as much SEC. Edited November 29, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) Noon on ESPN! Edited December 3, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Noon on ESPN! Either way people are going to be out for blood. I hate to say it but it may not matter. That Clemson team is really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Bama over OSU for the privilege of getting slaughtered by Clemson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 hours ago, jmc12290 said: Bama over OSU for the privilege of getting slaughtered by Clemson. If Alabama is the #4 seed they will lose to Clemson If Ohio St is the #4 seed, Ohio St will be the first two loss CFP champion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yeah... I don't like factoring in strength of schedule and then throwing it out the window when it comes time to pick slots You lose to Iowa, freaking Iowa and almost (shoulda, coulda, woulda) lose to Iowa you should be DQ'd from the playoffs. Call it: The Iowa Rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLXbillsmafia Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 They are about to reveal the #4 team. I don't like either, but I would vote for Bama. One loss against Auburn on the road. If they played them at home, they would probably be 13-0. OSU has some better wins, but I have no doubt Bama would beat Wisconsin and PSU. They also lost to Iowa by 31 (which I know no Saban-coached team would ever do). That said, I have a hunch they will select OSU. I would favor Clemson against either team in the playoffs. Clemson probably beats OSU by 2 TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 minute ago, FLXbillsmafia said: They are about to reveal the #4 team. I don't like either, but I would vote for Bama. One loss against Auburn on the road. If they played them at home, they would probably be 13-0. OSU has some better wins, but I have no doubt Bama would beat Wisconsin and PSU. They also lost to Iowa by 31 (which I know no Saban-coached team would ever do). That said, I have a hunch they will select OSU. I would favor Clemson against either team in the playoffs. Clemson probably beats OSU by 2 TDs. See... IOWA RULE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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