row_33 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 If the Bills had drafted Von Miller??? I wouldn’t wish that on his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: When someone compares Mayfield and Manziel its the first sign that person has only watched Mayfield here and there. Manziel was a scramble first quarterback that rolled out constantly and played sandlot football. A majority of Mayfields throws come from the pocket and the ball is out quick. Not at all the same player. Similar height maybe but Mayfield is a pocket thrower. Mayfield has been held to a different standard. He grabs his nuts and he is classless. Rosen wears a f**k trump hat and people rave about his social awareness. Give me a break with the fake outrage. Please go on and tell me how classy Brett Favre was. Manziel was not a scramble first QB. He made half a million plays from pocket and half a million sandlot. Not to mention when people compare the two it's for numerous different reasons, some legit and others not legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Sorry but Mayfield having already gotten himself into plenty of trouble and he still stands on the sidelines grabbing himself and yelling F you to the other team when he knows he's on TV is completely idiotic and is exactly like Johnny Football whipping people off. Head cases like that don't make it as NFL QB's because you have to be a professional first and foremost. The same people that want the Bills to get Mayfield are the same ones that wanted them to draft Manziel guaranteed. We need to find those threads in the archive. Mayfield will fail for the exact same reasons as Manziel: too short, head case, immature, product of college style offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 52 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Sorry but Mayfield having already gotten himself into plenty of trouble and he still stands on the sidelines grabbing himself and yelling F you to the other team when he knows he's on TV is completely idiotic and is exactly like Johnny Football whipping people off. Head cases like that don't make it as NFL QB's because you have to be a professional first and foremost. The same people that want the Bills to get Mayfield are the same ones that wanted them to draft Manziel guaranteed. We need to find those threads in the archive. Mayfield will fail for the exact same reasons as Manziel: too short, head case, immature, product of college style offense. This ^ Manziel 2.0. The QB is the face of your franchise. No one wants unnecessary distractions due to the QB’s on field behavior. It’s unfair to compare Mayfield’s immaturity to guys like a young Jim Kelly. Kelly had his off the field demons, and may have been quite arrogant, but he refrained from making a spectacle of himself on the field. Mayfield won’t be much help when he gets suspended for being an idiot in the pros. His behavior seems like the type of distraction that could tear a team apart. It’s also difficult to see him as someone McD would want on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Benched for his lewd gesture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I'm starting to fall in love with Baker. The kid can flat out play, and you will never have to question his passion. The height thing will need to be worked with, but his accuracy is tough to teach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 hours ago, Ittakestime said: I'm starting to fall in love with Baker. The kid can flat out play, and you will never have to question his passion. The height thing will need to be worked with, but his accuracy is tough to teach. I could see him as a Russell Wilson/Brees type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coach Tuesday Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I really liked Manziel and I still believe that if he had committed himself to football he'd be a successful NFL QB. Mayfield is The One as far as I'm concerned. If you want a savior for this franchise, he's your guy. Putting aside his attitude (which I like), his throws on the move remind me of Aaron Rogers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: I really liked Manziel and I still believe that if he had committed himself to football he'd be a successful NFL QB. Mayfield is The One as far as I'm concerned. If you want a savior for this franchise, he's your guy. Putting aside his attitude (which I like), his throws on the move remind me of Aaron Rogers. I admittedly don't watch a ton of college football but make it a point to catch big games or games involving big time prospects. Every time I watch Mayfield I come away impressed. He slides well in the pocket and finds throwing lanes and I too like the fiery attitude. Long way to go until the draft but at this point I would be very happy with him as the qb. He doesn't strike me as a McDermott kind of guy though so it probably won't be him as frustrating as that may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Seems like Mayfield is someone everyone loves to play for. His coach loves him, I think his passion for the game is unsurpassed by anyone. He's the ultimate competitor. I think his football character, and when you dig into a player before the draft, a lot of positive locker room things will come out in his defense, that'll counterbalance some of his more questionable moves Edited November 21, 2017 by Laughing Coffin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Mayfield should be our target at QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I would not be at all upset about seeing Mayfield in a Bills uniform. I can say the same thing about Rosen, Darnold and Rudolph. All are very impressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Mason Rudolph. That is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 9:30 AM, Coach Tuesday said: I really liked Manziel and I still believe that if he had committed himself to football he'd be a successful NFL QB. Mayfield is The One as far as I'm concerned. If you want a savior for this franchise, he's your guy. Putting aside his attitude (which I like), his throws on the move remind me of Aaron Rogers. I think you'll find a lot of overlap between Mayfield and Manziel guys. Some folks only take the negatives from the attitude, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/18/2017 at 10:16 PM, Augie said: Does the lack of maturity not concern you? I love moxy, I hate idiots...and it’s a fine line. I honestly don’t know what to think. No doubt he has behaved like a jerk. Other teams have gone out of their way to provoke him by such classless tactics of not shaking his hand at introductions or headhunting. He immaturely took the bait. He failed to control his intense emotions. But let's not exaggerate his scofflaws and portray him as criminal. If you watch how he relates to the other players you will see that he is a leader in which they rally towards. When a player fumbles or drops a pass he is the first person to go up to the player and offer support. This is a player in which football means a lot to him and he is committed to winning alongside with his teammates. Adding a passionate player to a sleepy team is not something that should be feared, it is something that should be embraced. The mediocre Bills not only need a jolt of talent but also a jolt of attitude. At this point I'm not committed to any one qb but without a doubt he is one of my favorites. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 17 hours ago, joesixpack said: Mason Rudolph. That is all He looks the part but something about his game doesn't seem right. Not sure what but I don't come away feeling like Rudolph is the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: He looks the part but something about his game doesn't seem right. Not sure what but I don't come away feeling like Rudolph is the guy. Same way my friend...his accuracy seems like it’s “area code” and his arm strength appears mediocre- floats a lot of passes and doesn’t really drive the ball like you would think a guy his size should- and he is surrounded by talent. Edited November 28, 2017 by JaCrispy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills757 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) The tricky part about evaluating talent in college is the fact the talent disparity is so great in college. OU has way more talent than most of their opponents so it's hard to really gauge Mayfield's talent. Is he really that good? Or is the other team that bad? It may seem unfair to bring this up but there's some truth to it. It's a big reason why EJ got drafted so highly (along with his measurables). While FSU wasn't at its greatest when EJ was there, they always had talent at the skill positions which benefited EJ. Edited November 28, 2017 by Bills757 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Bills757 said: The tricky part about evaluating talent in college is the fact the talent disparity is so great in college. OU has way more talent than most of their opponents so it's hard to really gauge Mayfield's talent. Is he really that good? Or is the other team that bad? It may seem unfair to bring this up but there's some truth to it. It's a big reason why EJ got drafted so highly (along with his measurables). While FSU wasn't at its greatest when EJ was there, they always had talent at the skill positions which benefited EJ. If you watched ej in college it was clear to see he was average QB with inaccuracy. The main reason he was drafted was because of "potential" . However he was even worse than I predicted. Oklahoma plays against good schools and even out of conference games like Ohio St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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