Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Google Ron Rivera's comments about Ealy. When asked if Ealy would be successful in NE "If he listens and does the things coach ask of him. Said Rivera. "I think he has an oppurtunity to reascend" Ealy has a bad reputation. Do your research. It's a different story than a player whose physical limitations do not allow him to play in a scheme. Ealy simply doesn't do what he is told. Won't go to the right gap, hold contain etc. It's well documented. I think that Satan is the greatest coach of all time in the NFL. But he also clearly has a set scheme on both offense and defense, and he looks for players that fit that scheme. Hence he is able to insert new OL all of the time that other teams pass over for better athletes because he knows (or believes) that player will fit his scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Google Ron Rivera's comments about Ealy. Â When asked if Ealy would be successful in NE Â "If he listens and does the things coach ask of him. Said Rivera. "I think he has an oppurtunity to reascend" Â Ealy has a bad reputation. Do your research. It's a different story than a player whose physical limitations do not allow him to play in a scheme. Ealy simply doesn't do what he is told. Won't go to the right gap, hold contain etc. It's well documented. Â Ealy has been given up on by two different schemes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Surprised they were able to trade S 3rd string guy. Figured teams would wait till he got cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Â I'll put it another way: a widget-selling business is struggling. New management is brought in. Instead of capitalizing on the core assets of the company (the widget-making expertise, the factories, supplier networks, etc.), new management's plan is to sell everything and use the sale revenue to purchase an entirely new business infrastructure in a year or two. Maybe we'll sell Cogswheels, maybe we'll sell Hermophones, who knows? We'll figure it out in a year or two! Â How do you think the shareholders would react to that approach? Â Management 101: leverage your core strengths. Don't bring in a bunch of coaches who need different players to fit their systems. DON'T HIRE THOSE COACHES. Hire the coaches who have demonstrated the ability to tailor systems around the existing talent. Â Jeebus H. Cringles, it's not that complicated. Â Stop giving the Pegulas a free pass, people. They have no clue what they're doing and we are in for 2-4 more years of garbage product. You're gonna pay for that? I'm not - I canceled Sunday Ticket and we gave up our season tickets this year. Â ENOUGH. Ragland a "core strength" is a funny sentence. After Rex traded up to get a guy who fell about 15-20 spots because of questions whether he could play in today's NFL. The dude wasn't good enough and he had an injury that 50% of players don't ever recover from. Drafting the guy was a mistake. Sammy was a mistake. They traded him. Marcell is another mistake. They will trade/cut him as soon as they are financially able. Â Reggie Ragland a core strength... That's a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2019?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I think that Satan is the greatest coach of all time in the NFL. But he also clearly has a set scheme on both offense and defense, and he looks for players that fit that scheme. Hence he is able to insert new OL all of the time that other teams pass over for better athletes because he knows (or believes) that player will fit his scheme. A set scheme? Â http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000381389/article/patriots-to-use-chandler-jones-at-linebacker-in-34 Â He realizes where his strengths are and adjusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 A set scheme?http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000381389/article/patriots-to-use-chandler-jones-at-linebacker-in-34 He realizes where his strengths are and adjusts. All 3-4 teams also play 4-3, some of them more than half the plays depending on how many passes the other teams tend to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 He was a week away from being cut,we got lucky Mcbean got something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Surprised they were able to trade S 3rd string guy. Figured teams would wait till he got cut It's because he's not that if he's recovered from the knee. That's what he was under McD scheme. Worth a pick, but 2019 ? Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 All 3-4 teams also play 4-3, some of them more than half the plays depending on how many passes the other teams tend to throw. Right, I realize that. That's not what the article is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 All 3-4 teams also play 4-3, some of them more than half the plays depending on how many passes the other teams tend to throw. Â I'm not sure you're defining "scheme" the same way I am. Â Belichick's scheme on defense is very simple. He adjusts the tactics to fit specific gamelans and specific players - within his scheme, he asks his players to do what they're good at. The type of player he looks for is one who is versatile (i.e., can play multiple roles) and intelligent. Â On offense, the scheme is fairly complicated and changes week to week depending on the opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Another Whaley gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Â I'm not sure you're defining "scheme" the same way I am. Â Belichick's scheme on defense is very simple. He adjusts the tactics to fit specific gamelans and specific players - within his scheme, he asks his players to do what they're good at. The type of player he looks for is one who is versatile (i.e., can play multiple roles) and intelligent. Â On offense, the scheme is fairly complicated and changes week to week depending on the opponent. That's exactly what I mean. Â He knew he had strength at LB, so he switch his "scheme" to maximize that and get more LBs on the field. A 3-4 system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Right, I realize that. That's not what the article is saying.I read the article and it said what I said, with a direct quote from Satan about it. Â We are arguing semantics though. I understand what you are saying. And as Coach Tuesday remarked, there are various definitions or understandings of "scheme," especially when it comes to Satan. I just think he has a distinct scheme and looks for guys that fit it. He had Walker and then drafted Edelman to play that role and when one of them was hurt looked for Amendola to do it. He drafts or signs these offensive linemen that fits his scheme that come out of nowhere and play well. He has Gronk and Hernandez and loses Hernandez and signs Bennett and loses Bennett and signs Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Haha a 4th in 2 years? That's equivalent to like a 5th or 6th this year. Yikes According to the Bills site, it's a conditional pick so could go up or down, depending on how he plays (if he plays). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Another jump the gun trade. The way you react to these trades you'd think Whaley had left the Bills with an all-star roster. You used to complain about him all the time too. You can't have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Beane must be good at Madden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) I believe they need to evaluate each player on the current roster and determine whether he fits into their new vision for the team and systems on either side of the ball. If they don't, and they can get something of decent value, they should move on. If they do, they should continue building the team with that player. There are older players they've cut and younger players they have kept and vice versa. This is a completely different organization than last year from top to bottom. They can't worry about moves of past regimes. Hanging onto Ragland even thouh they don't think he can help them win just because the previous guys drafted him high would be maddening. He was about to get cut. The fact they got a 4th rd pick is refreshing. This is how I feel about Darby AND Ragland. I wanted both to succeed but it didn't look like it was ever gonna. Get a JordMatt & two 4ths in return? Sign me up. Ragland was getting cut according to most people. Edited August 28, 2017 by r00tabaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well I guess we'll have collective heart failure in a week when all the other third string guys get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Well I guess we'll have collective heart failure in a week when all the other third string guys get cut. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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