#34fan Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 If I'm honest, the only reason Peterman looks better than say, CARDALE is because of the quality reps he's getting... Peterman can play, but he won't return a team to prominence... He doesn't want to score badly enough... That's the difference between him and your Prescotts, and Wilsons.... Right now, Deuce is just happy making completions, he's FAR from being able to consistently put together scoring drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I don't necessarily agree with counting tips as completions, I understand considering drops though as PS is all about individual evaluation and those aren't on Nate. Hopefully he continues to grow and turns into a good value for where we picked him. There's a topic about that very thing! https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/195692-poll-if-tt-cant-play-vs-jets-and-peterman-looks-good/ Do we also cut Hotrod slack in the Eagles game for drops by Clay and Holmes and credit for the nice 13 yard pass in traffic to Zay that was nullified by the Boldin false start? If I'm honest, the only reason Peterman looks better than say, CARDALE is because of the quality reps he's getting... Peterman can play, but he won't return a team to prominence... He doesn't want to score badly enough... That's the difference between him and your Prescotts, and Wilsons.... Right now, Deuce is just happy making completions, he's FAR from being able to consistently put together scoring drives. If I'm honest, the only reason Peterman looks better than say, CARDALE is because of the quality reps he's getting... Peterman can play, but he won't return a team to prominence... He doesn't want to score badly enough... That's the difference between him and your Prescotts, and Wilsons.... Right now, Deuce is just happy making completions, he's FAR from being able to consistently put together scoring drives. I noticed this too. Doesn't get it in very often even though he gets close sometimes. Hopefully he doesn't turn into a great between the 20s QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I just want to see one of our QBs get a chance behind Glenn-Richie-Wood-Groy-Dawkins. Yes. WTF is Castillo doing? Here's your line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/8/28/16211916/nathan-peterman-rookie-quarterback-buffalo-bills-video-analysis-gif Some of the throws he made were really really good. The near-interception was obviously the worst one but I bet he doesn't make that mistake again. I think Peterman is looking better every week. Plus he has a weak arm like Brady and Montana.before tyrod got hurt in the game he also had a pass batted at the line of scrimmageYes but that counts as a pick six when adjusting for Peterman. Plus Baltimore went for two and converted so it cost us8.He does remind me of Trent Edwards before Arizona knocked him into a new identity (Capt. Checkdown). Let's hope he stays healthy long enough to develop beyond that, but let's not anoint him the next Jim Kelly yet. He's still a rookie who hasn't faced playoff level defenses yet Glove wearing Mary sucked before during and after the Arizonagame. Edited August 29, 2017 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I watched hoping to see what many here see in Peterman. All I see is a guy who may get some game time. Not a solution to the QB problem. He has a weak arm. I'd rather have Tyrod and his versatility this year and next year map out a long term plan in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I'd like Peterman to start from here on out. Time to permanently step away from Rex's running QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Not that I think it would happen, but... say Tyrod is not ready for the beginning of the season and Peterman gets the nod week 1. He does well, and wins. Maybe Tyrod needs another week, and Peterman wins week 2. How many consecutive wins would Peterman need before he passes Tyrod as the starter, in the coach's eyes, and remains the starter even after the original #1 returns, ala Romo-Prescott? Not saying Peterman has those skills, though. But it sure would be great if Peterman really was The Guy, and we could spend two 1sts, two 2nds, and possibly 3 3rds on building pieces around him, instead of using it as trade-up ammo to get The Guy. Idk. That would mean credit for Whaley and I don't see that happening. It would be ideal and would set the franchise up for massive success (potentially.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I just think that it's a bit silly. Peterman may, in fact, end up being a better fit. I don't think he's a better option right now though. I agree with you that TT is a better option than Peterman is right now. But I don't think it is outlandish to believe that before the season is concluded the rookie qb is going to be starting. Is Peterman the long-term answer? I doubt it. What Peterman offers the offense is an ability to quickly get rid of the ball and get in a passing rhythm that TT can't do because of his inability to quickly make reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I agree with you that TT is a better option than Peterman is right now. But I don't think it is outlandish to believe that before the season is concluded the rookie qb is going to be starting. Is Peterman the long-term answer? I doubt it. What Peterman offers the offense is an ability to quickly get rid of the ball and get in a passing rhythm that TT can't do because of his inability to quickly make reads. I don't disagree with any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Yes. WTF is Castillo doing? Here's your line up. Too bad......... the Bills ain't calling to ask us! Edited August 29, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The calls of illegal formation were b.s. You can scroll through the clips in the original post and see that they use the same formation in several calls. The first time it was called negated a first down, and the Baltimore announcer speculated that the call may have been offsides because the defense was lined up in the neutral zone. Here's a picture of one of the formation on the first call. If you can tell me which lineman is in an illegal stance let me know. Both tackles are at exactly the same distance from the guard next to them. The Baltimore announcers initially thought they were going to be hit with lining up in the neutral zone, as you can see the nose tackle's head is across the line of scrimmage. My point is, I think those were totally bogus calls an unnecessary. They cost the team momentum, first downs, and opportunity. While we're at it, there was an earlier call of illegal motion on #62 right after Clay pulled up short on a reception at the Baltimore 40, leaving us with 3rd and 1. They called #62 for motion. I replayed that 6 times, and he didn't move. That was a phantom call that cost us opportunity. These refs are overofficious jerks. The issue with all of those penalties was the guard. Even when Baltimore got called for the penalty, you could see the guard was too far behind the center's hip. There must be an overlap with the inner lineman. On all those plays, the guard was back off the center's hip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I don't disagree with any of that. Why not just say that you agree instead of don't disagree? It's as if you are reluctant to publicly agree because you don't want to be associated with someone who is so disreputable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Why not just say that you agree instead of don't disagree? It's as if you are reluctant to publicly agree because you don't want to be associated with someone who is so disreputable? If you're going to answer your own question then don't bother asking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) I'm encouraged by what I see from Peterman (or hear at least since I can't get preseason games), but every QB's completion percentage is adversely affected by drops virtually every game. Maybe. But my goal is to see if he's getting the ball to his receivers/making the correct reads. If I'm honest, the only reason Peterman looks better than say, CARDALE is because of the quality reps he's getting... Peterman can play, but he won't return a team to prominence... He doesn't want to score badly enough... That's the difference between him and your Prescotts, and Wilsons.... Right now, Deuce is just happy making completions, he's FAR from being able to consistently put together scoring drives. There is so much wrong in here, I won't even bother trying. Edited August 29, 2017 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 What is the problem? They're evaluating the quarterback, not the offense. There's nothing unreasonable about counting drops as completions for that purpose. That's how people who understand things act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 If you're going to answer your own question then don't bother asking I'm so obtuse I didn't realize that I was maligning myself. Some people deny their liabilities. Not I! I embrace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I agree with you that TT is a better option than Peterman is right now. But I don't think it is outlandish to believe that before the season is concluded the rookie qb is going to be starting. Is Peterman the long-term answer? I doubt it. What Peterman offers the offense is an ability to quickly get rid of the ball and get in a passing rhythm that TT can't do because of his inability to quickly make reads. He's also cheap as hell. Draft someone in the 1st next year, and roll with peterman and the dead cap from tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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