vincec Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I specified the front 7 ( meaning the LB corps) not the front 4. And the secondary. A bit early to call Lawson anything approaching elite. I know reports from camp have been solid but Lawson didn't really look too good in the Eagles game. He's got a lot to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I wish I could post videos of all of Boldin's routes that game. If you can see a replay, watch him closely and tell me if you think he looked ready for the NFL? Is it rust or old age? No one elite. Just Dareus, Williams, Lawson and Hughes. Name every team with a better front 4. Lawson elite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Anyone else feel like they just got ditched by the popular girl at prom? CBF You know what it feels like to take the popular girl to the prom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Anquan Bolted. LOL Not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Allocation of salary cap $$$ I guess. They don't want to invest heavy cap $$$ into the WR position and that's what they would've done had Sammy had a big year. I 100% disagree with that philosophy. You need playmakers on offense if your going to win in this league. The better teams of the league are loaded with them. The Bills have McCoy. That's it. If they use that 2nd round pick they got for Sammy on a WR I'll laugh hysterically.... And maybe cry. I agree with you. But if the issue behind the move is salary cap, where do they plan to spend their money? They haven't shown that toward any position yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 But if the issue behind the move is salary cap, where do they plan to spend their money? They haven't shown that toward any position yet Base on the Panthers trends (I set this out on another thread yesterday) front 7 on defense, Quarterback, Running Back, Tight End and Kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) Base on the Panthers trends (I set this out on another thread yesterday) front 7 on defense, Quarterback, Running Back, Tight End and Kicker. Front seven is key, especially in this defense. Again like Scott said, we won't need to pay a QB for years to come unless they are planning a trade or FA acquisition Maybe LB will see some money in the near future Edited August 22, 2017 by EmotionallyUnstable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Except we won't have to pay a QB for at least 6 years. And RB? Who invests a lot of their cap into a RB? So I agree with emotionally stable. They have to invest the cap some where. A top WR would've been a good place to start. The Carolina Panthers do, and have throughout Beane's tenure there both underneath Marty Hurney and Dave Gettleman. First D'Angelo Williams and now Jonathan Stewart have been re-signed and have been among the richest running back contracts in the league at different times. Who knows if Beane is absolutely aligned with those decisions? He wasn't the head man making them...... but I think it is an interesting debate to look at where we might prioritise our cap $$s.... and I just did a basic assessment with what I found online regarding where the Panthers have spent. The consistent patterns are - they invest in front 7 talent and they invest at running back and kicker. When they have had a franchise QB earning good money they don't pay their receiver. The only rich receiver contracts in that time were given to Steve Smith when they were not paying a franchise QB. As soon as they had to pay Cam the trade off was release Smith. I am not telling you that is where I want them to spend or that I agree with those decisions....... I am just telling you what the history in the place our GM spent his whole career preparing for this job is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 The Carolina Panthers do, and have throughout Beane's tenure there both underneath Marty Hurney and Dave Gettleman. First D'Angelo Williams and now Jonathan Stewart have been re-signed and have been among the richest running back contracts in the league at different times. Who knows if Beane is absolutely aligned with those decisions? He wasn't the head man making them...... but I think it is an interesting debate to look at where we might prioritise our cap $$s.... and I just did a basic assessment with what I found online regarding where the Panthers have spent. The consistent patterns are - they invest in front 7 talent and they invest at running back and kicker. When they have had a franchise QB earning good money they don't pay their receiver. The only rich receiver contracts in that time were given to Steve Smith when they were not paying a franchise QB. As soon as they had to pay Cam the trade off was release Smith. I am not telling you that is where I want them to spend or that I agree with those decisions....... I am just telling you what the history in the place our GM spent his whole career preparing for this job is. I always picture them as front seven and qb with the rest being spend of opportunity. Running back a maybe. But we could've had MG for not much more and didn't really spend premium resources there outside existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 NFL.com: Anquan Boldin: It's my life mission to help people Anquan Boldin says he decided to retire from football in order to focus on his mission of helping people. The former Buffalo Bills wide receiver discussed with NFL Network's Cole Wright what spurred his decision to announce his retirement on Sunday after 14 NFL seasons. "For me, it's always been my life's mission to help people in a number different ways whether it be in this country or this countries," Boldin said in an interview that will air on NFL Total Access at 7 p.m. ET Monday. "But for the last couple of years I've been advocating for criminal justice reform. I've been trying to improve police-community relations across the board. I think where we are as a country now, it breaks my heart to see how divided we are and I don't think it should be that way." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 JW talked to Boldin directly. @john_wawrow As promised, fully updated story on AP's interview with Anquan Boldin and his decision to retire from #Bills/NFL. Boldin turns focus from NFL to bridging racial division http://pro32.ap.org/article/boldin-turns-focus-nfl-bridging-racial-divisions I call the reasons he explained in the article as mostly B.S - just an excuse. In reality..... The guy was wishy washy about signing to begin with. Then the Bills make personnel moves that make Boldin and other veterans question management's/coaches'/owners' intent for this season. And Beane trades the guy that was probably half the reason they wanted to sign Boldin in the first place. Then Boldin spends a few weeks practicing here and plays in a preseason game in which the Bills looked like they could be bottom dwellers in the league. Yeah. You can see how it came to him walking away. All I know is, it takes some major motivation to walk away from a couple million dollars - even if you have millions in the bank. Major life decision for that guy. Because you can change a lot of lives with an extra couple million. And it's not like he wouldn't be able to do his good deeds while playing. And how much worse off would the world really be if Boldin waited another 6 months to begin his full time crusade to save humanity from racism? As if he really believes that he is going to make that much difference in the coming weeks and months compared to waiting till his season is over in January. I guess he plans on fixing the world in the next 6 months. Talk about ambitious. I cal bullsh.. Just B.S. excuses. If he was that hell bent on his humanitarian pursuits - no way he ever signs with Buffalo in the first place. Truth is, the Bills gave him enough reasons to walk away from $1.75 million guaranteed + bonuses + playing football. It's just another log to throw on Beane's future funeral pyre if the team doesn't find any success in the next couple seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 he saw how bad the Bills were and he decided it was easier to end racism than to get the Bills to the playoffs i wonder if they do the Watkins trade if Boldin doesn't sign. they might have but with Boldin they saw it as an extra security blanket perhaps. i would like for them to add 1 more guy, maybe a burner like Dorsett as has been mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 he saw how bad the Bills were and he decided it was easier to end racism than to get the Bills to the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I call the reasons he explained in the article as mostly B.S - just an excuse. In reality..... The guy was wishy washy about signing to begin with. Then the Bills make personnel moves that make Boldin and other veterans question management's/coaches'/owners' intent for this season. And Beane trades the guy that was probably half the reason they wanted to sign Boldin in the first place. Then Boldin spends a few weeks practicing here and plays in a preseason game in which the Bills looked like they could be bottom dwellers in the league. Yeah. You can see how it came to him walking away. All I know is, it takes some major motivation to walk away from a couple million dollars - even if you have millions in the bank. Major life decision for that guy. Because you can change a lot of lives with an extra couple million. And it's not like he wouldn't be able to do his good deeds while playing. And how much worse off would the world really be if Boldin waited another 6 months to begin his full time crusade to save humanity from racism? As if he really believes that he is going to make that much difference in the coming weeks and months compared to waiting till his season is over in January. I guess he plans on fixing the world in the next 6 months. Talk about ambitious. I cal bullsh.. Just B.S. excuses. If he was that hell bent on his humanitarian pursuits - no way he ever signs with Buffalo in the first place. Truth is, the Bills gave him enough reasons to walk away from $1.75 million guaranteed + bonuses + playing football. It's just another log to throw on Beane's future funeral pyre if the team doesn't find any success in the next couple seasons. Well, that's not going to be a popular opinion.... but I tend to agree with you on most of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Update: After retiring Sunday and taking off at a full sprint, Boldin finally managed to reach the parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 @SalSports McDermott says "it's a fair question" if Bills would have traded Sammy knowing Boldin's decision. But says "two separate entities." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 @MatthewFairburn 8 most interesting things Buffalo Bills coach Sean McDermott said about Anquan Boldin retiring: http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/08/what_buffalo_bills_coach_sean_mcdermott_said_about_anquan_boldin_retiring.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Update: After retiring Sunday and taking off at a full sprint, Boldin finally managed to reach the parking lot. And Tyrod is still holding the ball..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 (edited) I call the reasons he explained in the article as mostly B.S - just an excuse. In reality..... The guy was wishy washy about signing to begin with. Then the Bills make personnel moves that make Boldin and other veterans question management's/coaches'/owners' intent for this season. And Beane trades the guy that was probably half the reason they wanted to sign Boldin in the first place. Then Boldin spends a few weeks practicing here and plays in a preseason game in which the Bills looked like they could be bottom dwellers in the league. Yeah. You can see how it came to him walking away. All I know is, it takes some major motivation to walk away from a couple million dollars - even if you have millions in the bank. Major life decision for that guy. Because you can change a lot of lives with an extra couple million. And it's not like he wouldn't be able to do his good deeds while playing. And how much worse off would the world really be if Boldin waited another 6 months to begin his full time crusade to save humanity from racism? As if he really believes that he is going to make that much difference in the coming weeks and months compared to waiting till his season is over in January. I guess he plans on fixing the world in the next 6 months. Talk about ambitious. I cal bullsh.. Just B.S. excuses. If he was that hell bent on his humanitarian pursuits - no way he ever signs with Buffalo in the first place. Truth is, the Bills gave him enough reasons to walk away from $1.75 million guaranteed + bonuses + playing football. It's just another log to throw on Beane's future funeral pyre if the team doesn't find any success in the next couple seasons. All about trade offs. Is it worth foregoing your passion (and $2M) to play for the Bills? Not this team, not this year - so he realized. Edit: but how utterly demoralizing for the team, and embarasing for the coaches/FO to have a HOF player get a taste and change his mind. He did the right thing trying to soften the blow. Edited August 22, 2017 by harmonkillebrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 All about trade offs. Is it worth foregoing your passion (and $2M) to play for the Bills? Not this team, not this year - so he realized. Edit: but how utterly demoralizing for the team, and embarasing for the coaches/FO to have a HOF player get a taste and change his mind. He did the right thing trying to soften the blow. It's happened to the patriots. Sometimes they hit the field and realize it wasn't meant to be. That said, it could be more - just can't say for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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