YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 "you don't have to play on this team!" Who remembers that? Jerry Hughes is !@#$ing crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 assuming the "but don't" part of the equation comes into play. we've seen plenty of bend THEN break defense lately. Honestly last season they frequently looked bent AND broken before the snap. I like this concept with the front 4 the bills have. They also won't need to break the bank on DBs hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Wait, the Bills hired Leslie Frazier? i liked him in naked gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 "you don't have to play on this team!" Who remembers that? Jerry Hughes is !@#$ing crazy! "Exactly. You're a disgrace to the uniform!" "Its pretty hot under these lights, huh, Jerry? Pretty Hot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 @danfetes Jerry Hughes just got into it with Leslie Frazier. Hughes walked away as Frazier yelled "ITS ALL ABOUT YOU JERRY! ALWAYS ABOUT YOU!" #Bills Hughes is gonna Hughes. 🤷♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 It may not happen immediately, but I actually expect this defense to create many more turnovers and sacks than under Rex. They didn't create many turnovers under Rex (I think only 18 last year?), and that is a staple of McDermott's defense. He loves creating turnovers. Carolina was near the top of the NFL in turnovers in many of McDermott's years there. Even last year with a bunch of rookies in the secondary they were tied for 4th. 2015 they were 1st. 2013 they were 5th. They were near the top of the NFL in sacks many years too, IIRC. I agree. You don't create turnovers when the other team's RB is putting up 200 yards against you. You also don't create turnovers when you're letting Ryan Fitzpatrick torch you on long bombs. Making the opposing offense grind out yardage does create opportunities for turnovers. It's not flashy, but it they do it right and have the talent to pull it off (the big question for me), it's effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) @danfetes Jerry Hughes just got into it with Leslie Frazier. Hughes walked away as Frazier yelled "ITS ALL ABOUT YOU JERRY! ALWAYS ABOUT YOU!" #Bills I have said and will say it again, he is traded before the season. Likely for a tight end. McDermott doesn't use DE's like him and has always got by with much lesser talent. Detroit for ebron, send Dallas a 4th or 5th, too Edited August 14, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I have said and will say it again, he is traded before the season. Likely for a tight end. McDermott doesn't use DE's like him and has always got by with much lesser talent. Detroit for ebron, send Dallas a 4th or 5th, too Detroit still likes Ebron. Maybe Tampa would give away Cameron Brate because they just got OJ? Just throwing that out there, I don't know his $ situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Last time Hughes got into it with the coach was Marrone, and he happened to have his 2 best years under him. Maybe a good sign then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I have said and will say it again, he is traded before the season. Likely for a tight end. McDermott doesn't use DE's like him and has always got by with much lesser talent. Detroit for ebron, send Dallas a 4th or 5th, too Now that would piss me off. Always liked Jerry Hughes. And it's always great when we play Indy and they mentioned that trade. One of Whaleys gems of you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Last time Hughes got into it with the coach was Marrone, and he happened to have his 2 best years under him. Maybe a good sign then? He gets tons of stupid penalties when he plays angry, though... I can live with that if he plays like an all pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meazy26 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Frazier is a players coach, so interesting to see Hughes spar with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Last time Hughes got into it with the coach was Marrone, and he happened to have his 2 best years under him. Maybe a good sign then? Players are "wired" differently. This kind of thing doesn't bother me this time if year. Hughes will be fine. He gets tons of stupid penalties when he plays angry, though... I can live with that if he plays like an all pro Bruce Smith was the same way. Hughes is drawn offsides more often than others, but makes up for it many times with his play. One of his best attributes is his jump at the snap, and Bruce was notorious for jumping offsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Hughes is gonna Hughes. ♀️ And Rex would have just accepted it. He thought players should be allowed to demonstrate their individuality. I love that Frazier is trying to get Hughes to think differently - be more of a team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Ironic that Frazier had his best career success as a player with the Bears under DC . . . Buddy Ryan. That was before anybody knew how to counter it, and with all time great players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Players are "wired" differently. This kind of thing doesn't bother me this time if year. Hughes will be fine. Bruce Smith was the same way. Hughes is drawn offsides more often than others, but makes up for it many times with his play. One of his best attributes is his jump at the snap, and Bruce was notorious for jumping offsides. If it was just the offsides I'd agree but he has penalties for "playing past the whistle". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Sounds like a 'bend don't break' type of deal. A lot comes down to the DL. If they can dominate then this concept will work fine. If not then there will be a lot of bending... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Now that would piss me off. Always liked Jerry Hughes. And it's always great when we play Indy and they mentioned that trade. One of Whaleys gems of you ask me.Wasnt a Whaley gem was a Nix gem. Whaley wasnt the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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