RaoulDuke79 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Whats all this adoo about memos? If I write it down does it make it anymore true or false than if I speak the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Whats all this adoo about memos? If I write it down does it make it anymore true or false than if I speak the same thing? They are records. The emails are dated so they largely back up what Comey said. Trump is still allowed to tell more lies though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 James Woods ✔@RealJamesWoods So we learned that neither the Russians nor @nytimes succeeded in fixing the election. We know they both tried, however... 1:07 PM - 8 Jun 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 this is basically a government shut-down, which is what Conservatives enjoy They are records. The emails are dated so they largely back up what Comey said. Trump is still allowed to tell more lies though Comey isn't a credible witness in the first place, Trump's lawyers will carve him in zero time flat to ribbons. you need evidence.... like a dress with the President's DNA on it as it sinks him after he committed perjury... :nana: :nana: :nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 this is basically a government shut-down, which is what Conservatives enjoy Comey isn't a credible witness in the first place, Trump's lawyers will carve him in zero time flat to ribbons.you need evidence.... like a dress with the President's DNA on it as it sinks him after he committed perjury... :nana: :nana: :nana: No, I think you are missing the point. This is not watergate, this is far more serious. If he obstructed justice that's bad, but this isn't about a simple "third rate burgarly" this was an attack on the United States of America. I kno w Trumpers don't acknowledge that or believe it should matter because they love Trump. But evough good Americans care to do something about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 They are records. The emails are dated so they largely back up what Comey said. Trump is still allowed to tell more lies though That's all well and good, but a time stamp doesn't make the content any more or less credible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Thoughts on Comey’s testimony Here are some of my takeaways from the Comey testimony First, Comey’s testimony falls far short of presenting a case that President Trump obstructed justice. Second, that being so, the most important takeaway from Comey’s testimony is that Trump was never under investigation during Comey’s time as FBI director. Contrary to what many on in the left-wing media are now claiming, this was a central anti-Trump talking point until now. Third, Comey says he took President Trump’s statements about the Flynn investigation as a “direction” to drop the investigation. However, the words Comey attributes to Trump, and Comey’s subsequent conduct, render the former director’s inference highly questionable. Stating a hope or a desired outcome, or even exerting pressure to see that outcome occur, is not issuing an order or direction. And if Comey thought he had been directed to drop an investigation, it’s quite likely he would have resigned (as he threatened to do in 2004 when he thought the Bush administration was behaving improperly — a point made by Sen. Tom Cotton), complained publicly, or done something more than what he did in response to Trump’s words. Fourth, it seems clear to me that Trump did pressure Comey to drop the Flynn investigation (at least insofar as it pertained to his statements about contacts with Russians). His statement of a desire to see it dropped, coupled with statements emphasizing the importance of loyalty, amounts to exerting pressure. But, as Andy McCarthy has emphasized, pressure is not obstruction. I think it was wrong for Trump to have exerted pressure on someone investigating his friend, but it was not unlawful. Fifth, Comey has painted an unflattering picture of President Trump’s character, including his veracity. The fact that Trump fired Comey provides a possible motive for painting that picture. However, I would not dismiss Comey’s picture on that basis. {snip} But Trump’s character flaws are well-known. Comey’s dim view of the president doesn’t matter much, and wouldn’t even if so many Americans didn’t take a dim view of Comey. Thus, in the end, I don’t think Comey’s testimony will have much impact on the Trump presidency, especially if Trump can be restrained in his response. However, scandals and overblown non-scandals often unfold in unpredictable ways, making instant analysis like this post a poor guide to the future. “Almost entirely wrong” On February 14 the New York Times published a story by Michael Schmidt, Mark Mazzetti and Matt Apuzzo with reporting contributed by Adam Goldman and Matthew Rosenberg. The story was headlined “Trump campaign aides had repeated contact with Russian intelligence.” The usual “current and former officials” make their cameo appearance when the Times is disclosing, or purporting to disclose, highly classified information {snip} In the course of his testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee today former FBI Director Comey bluntly acknowledged in response to Senator Cotton’s question that this story was “almost entirely wrong.” CNN Bungles Comey Testimony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imissbeastmode Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 No, I think you are missing the point. This is not watergate, this is far more serious. If he obstructed justice that's bad, but this isn't about a simple "third rate burgarly" this was an attack on the United States of America. I kno w Trumpers don't acknowledge that or believe it should matter because they love Trump. But evough good Americans care to do something about it The only person that obstructed justice was Loretta Lynch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Catching up on testimony highlights. Can't believe Comey called Trump a liar. He is, but still a rotten moment for America. Comey won't be remembered well for that, even though he spoke the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Matthews: After Comey, Trump Collusion Theory "Came Apart" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Another great day! Comey reveals himself as a coward. Confirms Donald didn't tell him to not investigate. We can put the Russian deal to rest. But maybe buried in the lead and the best thing of all..he puts the finger on Lynch and Hillary. Classic! Now that the Russian fairy tale is going to by abandoned by the retards in the media, dems and rhinos, what is the next narrative they are going to push forward to get to Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Now here's some real collusion between a U.S. President and the Russians. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-tells-medvedev-solution-on-missile-defense-is-unlikely-before-elections/2012/03/26/gIQASoblbS_story.html?utm_term=.6e5046e74b62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Now here's some real collusion between a U.S. President and the Russians. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-tells-medvedev-solution-on-missile-defense-is-unlikely-before-elections/2012/03/26/gIQASoblbS_story.html?utm_term=.6e5046e74b62 And this...didn't make Prez thank god. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446526/clinton-russia-ties-bill-hillary-sold-out-us-interests-putin-regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) "Federal Bureau of Matters" https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/872825060201041921 … https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/us/politics/james-comey-election.html?_r=0 … Edited June 9, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 "Federal Bureau of Matters" https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/872825060201041921 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/us/politics/james-comey-election.html?_r=0 FBM Their focus is on anything that has mass and takes up space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 FBM Their focus is on anything that has mass and takes up space. They ignore gravitational singularities? What the hell kind of Deep State conspiracy is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Lynch says call it a "matter." Republicans: Let's launch a new independent investigation. Trump pressures FBI head to drop an investigation then fires him when he doesn't. Republicans: What's the big deal? Democrats: impeachment, Russia, Ivankas coat Maybe I will start looking for UFOs with Greg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I had to research LARPers once. And you are correct. The European version is much... easier on the eyes. In the states it tends to be this: Now what the !@#$ is that nonsense?? No, I think you are missing the point. This is not watergate, this is far more serious. If he obstructed justice that's bad, but this isn't about a simple "third rate burgarly" this was an attack on the United States of America. I kno w Trumpers don't acknowledge that or believe it should matter because they love Trump. But evough good Americans care to do something about it No most of us who think this is much ado about nothing think Trump is an idiot. We're not blinded by allegiance to a particular party like you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Lynch says call it a "matter." Republicans: Let's launch a new independent investigation. Trump pressures FBI head to drop an investigation then fires him when he doesn't. Republicans: What's the big deal? Democrats: impeachment, Russia, Ivankas coat Maybe I will start looking for UFOs with Greg. Hypocrisy is strong on both sides. Pointing out the left's is just more fun, because they honestly think their hypocrisy is the high road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Ya know, I was in Sweden recently at a friend's home for dinner. Their family is way into LARP. The funny thing is the oldest daughter who is 20 was showing pictures of LARP events and I was stunned. I didn't know what LAMP is so I looked it up. Sounds like Dungeons and Dragons. Do people still play Dungeons and Dragons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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