BringBackOrton Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I still think back to that dirty knee to the ribs, preseason rookie year I think. That made this NBA "close out" argument look like sneezing near someone else. And some of the close out stuff is real. That was dirty, but I don't remember who did it. If my memory is correct, I hope he's out of the league. Shazier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 That in absolutely no way is how you define a bust. If he fails to produce at a high level this year (for whatever reason), how would you describe his four year career in Buffalo? It was an interesting comment by Taylor re: maturity (past examples of unwise decisions have been cited on this thread). The Bills paid dearly to trade up for Watkins (not debating the wisdom here-- it has been done to death), so I think it is fair to expect elite production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) If he fails to produce at a high level this year (for whatever reason), how would you describe his four year career in Buffalo? It was an interesting comment by Taylor re: maturity (past examples of unwise decisions have been cited on this thread). The Bills paid dearly to trade up for Watkins (not debating the wisdom here-- it has been done to death), so I think it is fair to expect elite production. He produces at a high level every time he takes the field. He has been unfortunately hit with injuries. Not the Bills fault or Watkins fault. It is what it is. But its worth saying again, he is an elite force whenever he takes the field. Edited May 19, 2017 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Interesting comments from QB about his WR http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/05/18/tyrod-taylor-says-sammy-watkins-has-new-mindset-knows-what-he-wants/ His new, mature outlook is "I need to have the best season of my career, present myself as a team player, and the consummate professional so I can sign a huge free agent contract with a winning organization". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Players attitudes always change in last year of contract unless they are being overpaid on a franchise tag like Byrd. Byrd was underpaid on the franchise tag. He got offered more the next year by the Bills and signed for more still with the Saints. And whatever happened to him in New Orleans, not one person involved with the Bills has ever questioned the guy's attitude, in his last year here or any other time, not one. Plenty did on the boards, but that's just what happens when you take more money elsewhere. Fans don't like that. As for the thing about Sammy, I guess it's good. I think he's always had a good attitude and am not sure how any of this will affect his ability to stay healthy, which has been his problem. Certainly not a bad thing but his success will come down to his health rather than his attitude. His snap to release is because he can do it.....defenses are terrified of losing contain and breaking lose in their secondary. We are moving into a new offense which might require him to have to get the ball out sooner in a WCO.......this year is gonna tell us a lot His snap to release is also because he won't / can't make anticipatory throws, and that he has a tendency to leave even clean pockets and spend a couple of seconds running towards the sidelines. Agreed that this year will tell us a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNMBillsFan Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Sammy didn't need a new mindset... I think he needed a pair of new cleats... Perhaps a new playbook... It's TT who's mind wasn't right... Doesn't need a new mindset? WTF? Obviously you don't watch the games. In overtime against Miami, he ran out of bounds a couple of yards short of the first down so he would have to take a hit. You don't think anything was wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Sammy is 2 first round picks that because of injuries he has played like a 4th rounder. He has to stay healthy to improve. If we get half of what we should from his pick position I will be pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Doesn't need a new mindset? WTF? Obviously you don't watch the games. In overtime against Miami, he ran out of bounds a couple of yards short of the first down so he would have to take a hit. You don't think anything was wrong with that? Pretty sure that isn't at all what happened. Was 154 yards 1 td not good enough for you? Sammy is 2 first round picks that because of injuries he has played like a 4th rounder. He has to stay healthy to improve. If we get half of what we should from his pick position I will be pleased Played like a 4th rounder? Jesus this board sometimes. Granted he was injured, but he plays like an elite receiver whenever he is on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I have matured in my job over the years, too. This is expected. That being said, I don't think Sammy's maturity ever limited him as much as his offensive coordinator, coach, QB, health and surrounding cast has. This is a fluff piece. So you are saying it is everyone's fault beside Sammy. Have you put in an application to be on his posse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I bet he does. He's on the cusp of a big payday. If that doesn't get you focused then nothing will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Called Contract Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) I have matured in my job over the years, too. This is expected. That being said, I don't think Sammy's maturity ever limited him as much as his offensive coordinator, coach, QB, health and surrounding cast has. This is a fluff piece.Your post certainly is accurate. I disagree this being a fluff piece. This time of year QB in the league are having camps and certainly trying too get on the same page with the receivers. Sammy IMO has never been deadwood. He complained last season about no discipline on the team. some of the accusations against this guy are laughable. A new coordinator puts all these players back learning the nuances of the OC's scheme. As for him being in a contract year and will go balls out just for the $$$$$. If not for injuries he goes balls out everytime he is on the field. If any one has film of #14 taking plays off post them up If he becomes a free agent. starting with his agent saying he will not sign a tag. At least trade him for anything. Look for a team to pay dearly for a player with elite skills and with the right team, & QB he will light it up. I don't see the Bills making a big push to resign him. Edited May 19, 2017 by Best Player Available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 He wasn't mature before? Only one thing makes sense to do then. We need to fire Russ Brandon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Players attitudes always change in last year of contract unless they are being overpaid on a franchise tag like Byrd. So much this it isn't funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 You know.....I agree with this Would really like to see Sammy do the right thing (which often times is to just not do anything noticable) when the chips are down. Social Media is not his friend Thanks, I appreciate you taking my comment as intended. I really do hope Sammy has matured, for his own sake. But I'm too old to take it as fact without first seeing what adversity reveals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Shazier The player the Bills should have drafted instead of...u guessed it Watkins. Khalil Mack was also available, was projected to be a stud, played at Buffalo....Oops, Whaley strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Where's Mrags when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Sammy is 2 first round picks that because of injuries he has played like a 4th rounder. He has to stay healthy to improve. If we get half of what we should from his pick position I will be pleased This simply is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 This simply is not true. You're right...it was four first rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Cool soundbites. Now show me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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