JM2009 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/30/buffalo-bills-dysfunction-doug-whaley-fired-after-draft-sean-mcdemott-terry-kim-pegula "After that, there was the decision to bring Taylor back, a move that, as I understand it, went against Whaley’s wishes and played into what new offensive coordinator Rick Dennison wanted. And then there was the departure of E.J. Manuel, who had been stamped as Whaley’s guy inside the building." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Yup still broken. Sad to say. Id rather keep Whaley and staff over McDermott and his staff. Edited April 30, 2017 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/193705-gm-doug-whaley-has-been-fired/page-58?do=findComment&comment=4359499 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 I think this is a good, fresh start that this organization has needed for quite awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I have a hard time believing he thought EJ could be the guy, but don't doubt he considered him a viable candidate in a depth role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Stupid ass article. IMO it makes sense to keep the guy whos been scouting and evaluating the players all year but give final say to McD and his staff who will be coaching them this year. It just makes too much sense to allow McD to pick guys he believes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yup still broken. Sad to say. Id rather keep Whaley and staff over McDermott and his staff. what? why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 The national media was banging the drum for firing Whaley when they fired wrecks so now its not a good idea? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I have a hard time believing he thought EJ could be the guy, but don't doubt he considered him a viable candidate in a depth role It's hard to believe because it was so mind-numbingly stupid. And yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yup still broken. Sad to say. Id rather keep Whaley and staff over McDermott and his staff. What? Based on what exactly? They have had zero success. It was time to make this move. Whaley was a holdover to the Ralph Wilson, Buddy Nix regime. Firing him does not mean the organization is "broken". Just that ownership recognized the need for change and did what they thought was best. Makes perfect sense and I applaud them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Is it impossible to believe that after vetting candidates and hiring the one they liked best said candidate came in and impressed them with his approach, winning over their confidence and providing a better vision for the future than had previously been displayed by Whaley? What? Based on what exactly? They have had zero success. It was time to make this move. Whaley was a holdover to the Ralph Wilson, Buddy Nix regime. Firing him does not mean the organization is "broken". Just that ownership recognized the need for change and did what they thought was best. Makes perfect sense and I applaud them.Right. But according to the media the Bills are broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 If the new GM works for McDermott, then I think the Bills moves make sense. But this smacks of the typical Russ Brandon half ass maneuver where nothing is synchronized, so it is impossible to hold everyone accountable at once. In three years if McDermott is a failure, the Bills will try to convince fans that the GM can't be held responsible because he didn't hire the coach. Kind of like having a GM draft a QB, then resign, and then pretend the new GM (who had been assistant GM had no real say over the draft decision). It would be nice if the Bills just synchronized things and did them in the correct order for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I can see how it would look like dysfunction to the outside world and even some fans but Whaley has been around long enough, no playoffs and we can make a 1,000 excuses why, no winning and changes need to be made, the GM/HC should get 4 seasons.... 1 season to purge the old philosophy, 1 season to put your stamp on things and 2 seasons to try and make the playoffs and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 most of these problems were inherited, not created by the Pegs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yup still broken. Sad to say. Id rather keep Whaley and staff over McDermott and his staff. Say whaaaaaa? Waley, he who believes EJ Manuel would be better than going with TT as a bridge to a better QB. No thank you .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 What? Based on what exactly? They have had zero success. It was time to make this move. Whaley was a holdover to the Ralph Wilson, Buddy Nix regime. Firing him does not mean the organization is "broken". Just that ownership recognized the need for change and did what they thought was best. Makes perfect sense and I applaud them. Just keep Whaley away from anything to do with the salary cap,or the draft,or QBs.There has to be a job out there for him somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Whaley was a horrible GM. Past time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) If the new GM works for McDermott, then I think the Bills moves make sense. But this smacks of the typical Russ Brandon half ass maneuver where nothing is synchronized, so it is impossible to hold everyone accountable at once. In three years if McDermott is a failure, the Bills will try to convince fans that the GM can't be held responsible because he didn't hire the coach. Kind of like having a GM draft a QB, then resign, and then pretend the new GM (who had been assistant GM had no real say over the draft decision). It would be nice if the Bills just synchronized things and did them in the correct order for a change. I don't believe the Bills do anything to try to convince fans one way or another. Just don't think they care all that much. It doesn't factor in. Nor should it. Edited April 30, 2017 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) The national media was banging the drum for firing Whaley when they fired wrecks so now its not a good idea? Why? I don't remember that at all and would appreciate a link or three so I can see who these folks were. That aside...it's one thing to fire your HC and GM at the end of a season. It's quite another to let the GM successfully lead the search for the next HC and oversee all personnel aspects of the entry draft only to fire him the day after the draft's conclusion. Edited April 30, 2017 by Cripple Creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just keep Whaley away from anything to do with the salary cap,or the draft,or QBs.There has to be a job out there for him somewhere.Director of Pro Personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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