Augie Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 There are likely going to be some guys around the scouting department being moved. That said, I really don't believe Doug is in trouble. Yeah, it's not like there is not a single competent person there. Keep the best, replace the worst. Happens all the time. Doug has positive qualities, but has some gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Well, this makes the organization look even more like a complete cluster f*ck. I feel bad for Whaley. He has had 3 coaches to deal with in 4 years. Three scheme changes on both sides of the ball. He has still managed to assemble more talent on this team than we have seen in a decade. The coaching staffs failed him, mainly Rex failed him. Now he is getting the axe right after a highly rated draft by all who rate such things? Amazing. Only in Buffalo. You couldn't make this sh*t up if you tried. Edited April 30, 2017 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Done in -why-because he was infatuated with EJ?Probably had more than 50% to do with it, coupled with poor cap management, bad drafting, lying to players, and failing to get this team closer to its goals relative to winning and playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I can't pretend to know everything behind the scenes, but this whole ordeal has been so mishandled. No idea if Whaley just doesn't get along with anyone or what, but the dude hasn't been that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 It's not even worth responding to your alternate reality. WTF does enamored with EJ even mean? He played him in a game we wanted to lose? And he excelled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Probably had more than 50% to do with it, coupled with poor cap management, bad drafting, lying to players, and failing to get this team closer to its goals relative to winning and playoffs. You forgot his lousy press conferences. That alone has kept the Bills out of the playoffs. Edited April 30, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I can't pretend to know everything behind the scenes, but this whole ordeal has been so mishandled. No idea if Whaley just doesn't get along with anyone or what, but the dude hasn't been that bad. Agreed! Maybe he's a great backup QB, not the lead guy, but HE HAS VALUE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 You forgot his lousy press conferences. That alone has kept the Bills out of the playoffs.Im sure it didnt attract any high level players that were free agents, top quality employees (see rex and his gang), and didnt inspire the players in this team, oh yeah im sure it didnt sit well with the owners either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Guess I'm completely confused as to why the Bills are being called classless for keeping Whaley through the draft and firing him the day after? From what I've seen prior, that's pretty much standard procedure in the NFL, typically front office contacts expire May 1st for that very reason. I'm pretty much favored keeping Whaley around, but if he is fired tomorrow, it's pretty much normal operating procedure in the NFL from what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Whaley isn't going anywhere ! KC GM credited Whaley for working out the deal with KC !Nice try !! http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/04/buffalo_bills_gm_doug_whaley_could_be_fired_as_soon_as_sunday_report.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 You forgot his lousy press conferences. That alone has kept the Bills out of the playoffs. And the great Rex press conferences won us..... sorry, I was dreaming. Nothing. At least Whaley brings more than well, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Things feel different from usual this offseason, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yeah, giving the first QB off the draft board a grand total of 17 starts before declining to pick up his option sure is an infatuation. He pushed him on two coaching staffs. he's terrible. He was given a scaled back playbook, no competition, and Whaley drafted Watkins for him in 2014, and he failed. He had to be benched for putting WRs in danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with a girl who saw Whaley arguing with McDermott at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Again: @4TomMartin: McDermott asked if he had inside knowledge to know to trade up ahead of former team, Carolina, to get an OT. His response: Well said." Sounds to me like the rumor about the Carolina asst GM is true. Any history on this guy? Does Carolina draft well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 oh yeah im sure it didnt sit well with the owners either. Your confidence in your opinion is seriously misplaced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 There are likely going to be some guys around the scouting department being moved. That said, I really don't believe Doug is in trouble. while you know facts thru sources etc. I have a feeling as well this could just be a football guy from Carolina hired by the bills to run the scouting and draft stiff. And Whaley stays. I agree with you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Again: @4TomMartin: McDermott asked if he had inside knowledge to know to trade up ahead of former team, Carolina, to get an OT. His response: Well said." Sounds to me like the rumor about the Carolina asst GM is true. Any history on this guy? Does Carolina draft well? Well they, made it to the SB, so they do better than us. My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with a girl who saw Whaley arguing with McDermott at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious. It's all over social media tonight that he probably is gone. Wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Your confidence in your opinion is seriously misplaced I said they werent to happy with Whaleys press conference the owners. They made Mcdermott the voice of the franchise and Whaley hasnt been heard from, they also hire a pr specialist and image consultant. But its my "opinion" and my confidence in it is misplaced. Simon would you care to refute that based on the owners actions following the press conference that they were happy with Whaleys conference? If so elaborate. If not could you stop attacking me?????? Edited April 30, 2017 by Bill_with_it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET1062 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Cat fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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