KellyToughII Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Peterman will be given every chance, he is McDermotts draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I think it's good to emphasize to players that they need to put in the work to justify their contracts. But Tyrod is probably the hardest worker on the team, the most talented QB, and has experience with Dennisons offense and QB room. I think they want Peterman to succeed, and the best way to do that is to park him on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 They could have just let him walk and instead they are paying him $15.5M. That's really not that insulting. True and I hope he proves me wrong in all honesty. I will continue to root for him and the team this upcoming year. I have my doubts is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Peterman will be given every chance, he is McDermotts draft pick. Beyond that, they've essentially said that TT isn't the Bills' QB of the future. So it's Peterman or Cardale, or maybe even Woodrum. They will get every chance to start. And if TT wins again, they'll draft a QB in the 1st next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I'm sure someone has pointed this out already but McDermott said that everyone is competing for every spot. It is the ultimate in coach speak but so what? Is he supposed to say something different? Ask him if Cordy, Sammy, Shady, or anyone else is guaranteed a starting spot and he will give the exact same answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Beyond that, they've essentially said that TT isn't the Bills' QB of the future. So it's Peterman or Cardale, or maybe even Woodrum. They will get every chance to start. And if TT wins again, they'll draft a QB in the 1st next year. Restructuring his contract and drafting a QB in the fifth round doesn't mean they think Tyrod isn't the future. It just says, "We're still not sure about him, so we're keeping our options open." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 By paying him less $$$ haha, such commitment i think having a $9m hit to cut him next year means hes here for 2 years. that is a commitment to the guy even if they reduced his pay some. commitment and rate of pay are related -- but certainly not synonymous Restructuring his contract and drafting a QB in the fifth round doesn't mean they think Tyrod isn't the future. It just says, "We're still not sure about him, so we're keeping our options open." the qb in the fifth means almost nothing to what they think of him the restructure does imply that they want to keep options open -- but its also good for them to press and get the guy at the lowest cost available even if they like him. Beyond that, they've essentially said that TT isn't the Bills' QB of the future. So it's Peterman or Cardale, or maybe even Woodrum. They will get every chance to start. And if TT wins again, they'll draft a QB in the 1st next year. they have essentially said TT is the starter this year and we will see what happens. they havent bailed on him yet. and this is coming from a guy that doesnt love TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Restructuring his contract and drafting a QB in the fifth round doesn't mean they think Tyrod isn't the future. It just says, "We're still not sure about him, so we're keeping our options open." It wasn't just a restructuring: it was a pay cut. That more than the 5th round pick tells me they don't think he's the QB of the future. And I think that most people agree that they'll be drafting a QB in the 1st next year. they have essentially said TT is the starter this year and we will see what happens. they havent bailed on him yet. and this is coming from a guy that doesnt love TT. McD said that they'll have an open competition. I think TT will win it, but it doesn't mean he'll be handed the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 It wasn't just a restructuring: it was a pay cut. That more than the 5th round pick tells me they don't think he's the QB of the future. And I think that most people agree that they'll be drafting a QB in the 1st next year. McD said that they'll have an open competition. I think TT will win it, but it doesn't mean he'll be handed the job. Fair enough - it was a pay cut. But they could have cut him altogether, which would have been the smart thing to do if they were certain that he's not the future. It's probably somewhere in the middle: "Tyrod, we're setting the scene to draft a QB in the first round next year. Give us a reason not to." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I'm sure someone has pointed this out already but McDermott said that everyone is competing for every spot. It is the ultimate in coach speak but so what? Is he supposed to say something different? Ask him if Cordy, Sammy, Shady, or anyone else is guaranteed a starting spot and he will give the exact same answer. Yes, he could have said TT was the starter unless someone else stood out to be better. A number of teams that drafted rookies in the early rounds have already stated that their rookies would sit (starting the season) Chucky Gruden said Peterman was the best suited rookie QB to be able to start if it came down to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainrc4 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Peterman will probably out throw Taylor from the get go. Agree with this. I think this system will show TT's flaws more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Beyond that, they've essentially said that TT isn't the Bills' QB of the future. So it's Peterman or Cardale, or maybe even Woodrum. They will get every chance to start. And if TT wins again, they'll draft a QB in the 1st next year. I don't see that at all. McD seems like a very straight shooter and details, disciplined guy. The everyone competes guy. He's going to go into this exactly as most every new coach would. Everyone has a clean slate. He's going to give TT first shot and TT is going to blow all of those guys away playing with the first team, except for Yates, who will show exactly what he always shows. It's not even going to be close. Once the season starts, it's all up to Taylor. If he plays lights out or very good he stays. If he plays just pretty good (like last year) or average they will draft a guy #1 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 McD said that they'll have an open competition. I think TT will win it, but it doesn't mean he'll be handed the job. Oh, come on. They brought in no meaningful competition and still have him on a substantial contract even if a step down from full price. How open do we really think this is? If he totally falls apart and suddenly someone looks like Brady/brees - sure. But that's the case for everyone. Let's be real: they could declare him the starter today and it changes nothing about the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 ...EXACTLY the way it should be............ and exactly how coaches have done in the past... Chan started Ryan Fitzpatrick over Losman/Edwards Doug started Orton over Manuel Rex Ryan started Tyrod over Manuel and Sean will start whoever comes out through TC. THe only difference will be that it is Tyrod's job to lose in TC as opposed to three seasons ago when all three were equally in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 and exactly how coaches have done in the past... Chan started Ryan Fitzpatrick over Losman/Edwards Doug started Orton over Manuel Rex Ryan started Tyrod over Manuel and Sean will start whoever comes out through TC. THe only difference will be that it is Tyrod's job to lose in TC as opposed to three seasons ago when all three were equally in it. Actually Chan started Edwards over Fitzy. Let Edwards play like two or three games, saw he was horrible and then just cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I don't see that at all. McD seems like a very straight shooter and details, disciplined guy. The everyone competes guy. He's going to go into this exactly as most every new coach would. Everyone has a clean slate. He's going to give TT first shot and TT is going to blow all of those guys away playing with the first team, except for Yates, who will show exactly what he always shows. It's not even going to be close. Once the season starts, it's all up to Taylor. If he plays lights out or very good he stays. If he plays just pretty good (like last year) or average they will draft a guy #1 next year. You think he played pretty good last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 You think he played pretty good last year? Tyrod? Under the circumstances, yes. He didn't have Watkins for 3/4 of the year. Some games he was throwing to Arena League players. The defense put him in terrible situations, so yeah, I think he was "pretty good." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I don't see that at all. McD seems like a very straight shooter and details, disciplined guy. The everyone competes guy. He's going to go into this exactly as most every new coach would. Everyone has a clean slate. He's going to give TT first shot and TT is going to blow all of those guys away playing with the first team, except for Yates, who will show exactly what he always shows. It's not even going to be close. Once the season starts, it's all up to Taylor. If he plays lights out or very good he stays. If he plays just pretty good (like last year) or average they will draft a guy #1 next year. I agree and that's what I've been saying. But I think drafting a guy in the 1st next year using their 2-1st rounders is a foregone conclusion. Oh, come on. They brought in no meaningful competition and still have him on a substantial contract even if a step down from full price. How open do we really think this is? If he totally falls apart and suddenly someone looks like Brady/brees - sure. But that's the case for everyone. Let's be real: they could declare him the starter today and it changes nothing about the situation The same could have been said about TT when the Bills brought him in in 2015. But the fact remains that they have a rookie they drafted and a 2nd year guy the team has been developing (I won't bother mentioning Yates). I expect them all to get a chance to prove themselves, as it should be. If TT emerges victorious, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Tyrod? Under the circumstances, yes. He didn't have Watkins for 3/4 of the year. Some games he was throwing to Arena League players. The defense put him in terrible situations, so yeah, I think he was "pretty good." Are we really back to blaming the defense for Taylor's shortcomings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Are we really back to blaming the defense for Taylor's shortcomings? Take Tyrod out of it, it's inarguable that the play of a team's defense has an enormous affect on the play of its offense. Bad defense puts offenses in consistently bad positions. Long fields. Less series. Having to play from behind. Loss of momentum. Good defense gives offenses shorter fields, sometimes drives they only need to go 10-20 yards, more plays, more series, more play options, greater momentum. There is no case against that. And there is no case that the Bills did not have a terrible defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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