quinnearlysghost88 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Not sure why they *wouldn't* work out all the QBs projected in the first 2 rounds.... he's a project but has a high ceiling. the dreaded high ceiling project quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Whaley not with them , seems that way 2017 NFL Draft: Sean McDermott, Bills owners scout QB Mitchell Trubisky without GM Doug Whaley http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/10/2017-nfl-draft-bills-ownership-dined-with-qb-deshone-kizer-after-workout/ It was reported Whaley was with them. So who's right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 One does not need to be right - Whaley may have been there for evaluation but not the dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 One does not need to be right - Whaley may have been there for evaluation but not the dinner.they packed a Lunchable for Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuJcPzb815A This was pretty impressive. I've seen a lot of QBs fail miserably when dealing with Mariucci. Just food for thought. In my opinion, football IQ and accuracy are the most important factors in a successful NFL quarterback. Isn't Kizer's accuracy a legitimate concern though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Isn't Kizer's accuracy a legitimate concern though? My issue with Kizer is he just is not a good football player. You can draw all you want on a board, Kizer just isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Oh god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 My issue with Kizer is he just is not a good football player. You can draw all you want on a board, Kizer just isn't it. I'm not a big fan of Kizer either. He has the look of a QB but he wasn't impressive to me with his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Jesus dined with Judas and look what that got him. *stands and applauds* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Deshone Kizer checks a lot of boxes. The problem is that's not how you scout QB's. They can be big, strong, good arm, intelligent but if they can't play they can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Isn't Kizer's accuracy a legitimate concern though? My post wasn't meant to be a call for us to draft Kizer. I just wanted to throw the video out there for people to see. On the accuracy point, I've seen some beautiful throws from Kizer. But to be honest, I haven't watched enough of him to make a strong judgement either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Deshone Kizer checks a lot of boxes. The problem is that's not how you scout QB's. They can be big, strong, good arm, intelligent but if they can't play they can't play. And this is the mystery in scouting qbs and it's hilarious how people try to give expert opinions on it. Aaron Rodgers had to reinvent the way he throw a ball in the NFL. If he was forced out there right away, he struggles and stupid fans and media want him benched. Instead, he gets 3 years of learning under a HOFer. If the Bills draft any QB, it will be questioned because we suck at developing them. Now if GB or Ne drafted a guy like Kizer, people would think it's a great pick and believe the guy is destined for good things. It's more than just picking a qb but also the development and expectations that occupy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 And this is the mystery in scouting qbs and it's hilarious how people try to give expert opinions on it. Aaron Rodgers had to reinvent the way he throw a ball in the NFL. If he was forced out there right away, he struggles and stupid fans and media want him benched. Instead, he gets 3 years of learning under a HOFer. If the Bills draft any QB, it will be questioned because we suck at developing them. Now if GB or Ne drafted a guy like Kizer, people would think it's a great pick and believe the guy is destined for good things. It's more than just picking a qb but also the development and expectations that occupy them. I am 100% in agreement with you that it's not just the QB, it's the development as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I just like that the Bills are kicking the tires on top prospects that could be there when they pick. Even though whoever they pick may or may not be a great NFL starter, it makes me feel good that this will not be a CJ Spiller pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I am 100% in agreement with you that it's not just the QB, it's the development as well. And for the record, I'm really warming up to Mahomes. Biracial people are taking over. We need to get on board. And we need some Samoans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 My post wasn't meant to be a call for us to draft Kizer. I just wanted to throw the video out there for people to see. On the accuracy point, I've seen some beautiful throws from Kizer. But to be honest, I haven't watched enough of him to make a strong judgement either way. I understand and I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth or anything. I was just going off of the point you made and asked about Kizer. I haven't watched as much of these guys as I usually do so I'm mostly going based on what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 All of this because the Pegulas took a kid out to dinner? Can we analyze what entree the kid ordered? Or, is this the classic TBD ordained "smoke screen" taken to the ownership level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 If the Bills pick any QB in this draft, combine that with the Yates signing----and you can reasonably deduce the Cardale is done as a Bill. they packed a Lunchable for Whaley Russ told me that Whaley couldn't figure out the Capri Sun. He punched the straw clear through the pouch and sprayed high fructose all over the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Deshone Kizer checks a lot of boxes. The problem is that's not how you scout QB's. They can be big, strong, good arm, intelligent but if they can't play they can't play. OK, I'll bite. Please illuminate for us all the correct way to "scout" QBs. And please remember there is a huge space between "can" and "can't" play and player evaluations aren't done in a vacuum. That is doubly true when it comes to evaluating QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 And this is the mystery in scouting qbs and it's hilarious how people try to give expert opinions on it. Aaron Rodgers had to reinvent the way he throw a ball in the NFL. If he was forced out there right away, he struggles and stupid fans and media want him benched. Instead, he gets 3 years of learning under a HOFer. If the Bills draft any QB, it will be questioned because we suck at developing them. Now if GB or Ne drafted a guy like Kizer, people would think it's a great pick and believe the guy is destined for good things. It's more than just picking a qb but also the development and expectations that occupy them. I agree with the first part. The second part of your post remains to be seen because the "we" has changed. Whole new staff so nobody knows exactly what kind of offense will be run and how they will develop players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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