PlayoffsPlease Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 The fans of almost every NFL team think that there team does a great job in the off-season. For 19 of those teams plus the Bills it fails to translate into making playoffs in the actual season. Its pretty easy to understand why the fans believe this. With the rare exception of a complete tear down and rebuild, every incremental move every GM makes is done with the belief that it marginal improves a team. In a recent example the Bills picked up on waivers a former third round draft pick, who started only 1 game for his first NFL team and developed an injury history, including concussion issues. But on paper this players college career gives him a pedigree that makes him appear to be better than the current "depth" at the defensive end position. Hopeful fans want to believe his NFL track record is not an important data point related to his future prospects. The fans of the team that cut him, think their team also improved by opening up a roster spot for someone to replace a player who never really contributed to the team meaningfully. A true win-win for all the fans. All of the GM's are correct some of the time. All of the GM's are wrong some of the time. The key is to be right more often than the other GMs are right. Fortunately we have a tool to see which GM's are right more often than the other GM's. Its called the regular season, and we measure it with this cool tool called win loss record. All other assessment's of GM performance are simply people's personal biases and opinions, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 When the Bills are down 15 and the QB is slowly working down the field against a prevent D, letting 20 seconds leak away again, and the Bills get a TD and convert with 8 seconds left... many fans think that needing the onside kick and a hail Mary and 2 point convert just to go to OT is really almost a win for the Bills. Or just as worse it was a one score loss (yeah right) that is a valiant effort. They are more likely to see the offseason as won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 give Mr. Clean a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 what the !@#$ do you want from me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeckBeard Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 If by winning the offseason you mean getting rid of Rex Ryan and Bro, then yes, the Bills won the offseason by a wide margin. I don't know what this tool is, but it sounds like a great name for a band. Offseason Tool, or maybe they will just shorten it to "Tool". Now, that band name is probably already taken, but sometimes a gentleman has to make remarks on a message board without doing his homework. #freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 there is nothing wrong with being optimistic and hopeful about the upcoming season. i mean, this is our team. if you don't have at least a little faith, and hope, what's the point? i mean, i guess that you could just be that guy that walks around peeing in everybody's punch bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 no one said we won the offseason, Rex is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 No one has stated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Or you could define this by losing high value free agents in order to procure compensatory draft picks... You could, but I won't..😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 give Mr. Clean a chance ...obviously you do NOT know the mandates of the "One 'N Done" crowd....McCoach has been here long enough according to their doctrine.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I don't think that we've won the offseason. I don't think the offseason has been a disaster for us either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 I don't think that we've won the offseason. I don't think the offseason has been a disaster for us either. Has there ever been an off-season that you thought was a disaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 no one said we won the offseason, Rex is gone. A few short seasons ago many here thought the Bills won that offseason because Rex was on his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm really confused. I read that twice and I'm nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Bill Polian gives the paper mache Lombardi (not psychically, joking) to whoever wins. Odds favor the Patsies. Edited March 29, 2017 by KollegeStudnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Here's the answer. Assume the worst. You'll either be surprised or your expectations will be met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) The fans of almost every NFL team think that there team does a great job in the off-season. For 19 of those teams plus the Bills it fails to translate into making playoffs in the actual season. Its pretty easy to understand why the fans believe this. With the rare exception of a complete tear down and rebuild, every incremental move every GM makes is done with the belief that it marginal improves a team. In a recent example the Bills picked up on waivers a former third round draft pick, who started only 1 game for his first NFL team and developed an injury history, including concussion issues. But on paper this players college career gives him a pedigree that makes him appear to be better than the current "depth" at the defensive end position. Hopeful fans want to believe his NFL track record is not an important data point related to his future prospects. The fans of the team that cut him, think their team also improved by opening up a roster spot for someone to replace a player who never really contributed to the team meaningfully. A true win-win for all the fans. All of the GM's are correct some of the time. All of the GM's are wrong some of the time. The key is to be right more often than the other GMs are right. Fortunately we have a tool to see which GM's are right more often than the other GM's. Its called the regular season, and we measure it with this cool tool called win loss record. All other assessment's of GM performance are simply people's personal biases and opinions, nothing more. Fair enough. Still, we need to talk during the offseason. It really has been shown that when people are talking about bringing in expensive high-level FAs as winning the offseason, it most often leads to losing the regular season. Clearly we didn't spend freely this year due to the serious cap situation we've found ourselves in. But I like that we didn't just push the cap problems down the road. Instead we dealt with the problems this year without destroying our situation next year. That much I really like. But I hate that they took a season when we were losing a ton of FAs and managed to not get any comp picks next year, at least as it looks now. If there's one thing they need to do to start winning offseasons in ways that will produce regular season effects, it's maximize the number of draft picks we get in every conceivable way. Edited March 29, 2017 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 The fans of almost every NFL team think that there team does a great job in the off-season. For 19 of those teams plus the Bills it fails to translate into making playoffs in the actual season. Its pretty easy to understand why the fans believe this. With the rare exception of a complete tear down and rebuild, every incremental move every GM makes is done with the belief that it marginal improves a team. In a recent example the Bills picked up on waivers a former third round draft pick, who started only 1 game for his first NFL team and developed an injury history, including concussion issues. But on paper this players college career gives him a pedigree that makes him appear to be better than the current "depth" at the defensive end position. Hopeful fans want to believe his NFL track record is not an important data point related to his future prospects. The fans of the team that cut him, think their team also improved by opening up a roster spot for someone to replace a player who never really contributed to the team meaningfully. A true win-win for all the fans. All of the GM's are correct some of the time. All of the GM's are wrong some of the time. The key is to be right more often than the other GMs are right. Fortunately we have a tool to see which GM's are right more often than the other GM's. Its called the regular season, and we measure it with this cool tool called win loss record. All other assessment's of GM performance are simply people's personal biases and opinions, nothing more. So.........you're just figuring out that most fans have unrealistically high assessments of their teams' off-season moves? Well okay then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 i mean, this is our team. if you don't have at least a little faith, and hope, what's the point? i mean, i guess that you could just be that guy that walks around peeing in everybody's punch bowl. Peeing in punch bowls is the coolest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 The fans of almost every NFL team think that there team does a great job in the off-season. For 19 of those teams plus the Bills it fails to translate into making playoffs in the actual season. Its pretty easy to understand why the fans believe this. With the rare exception of a complete tear down and rebuild, every incremental move every GM makes is done with the belief that it marginal improves a team. In a recent example the Bills picked up on waivers a former third round draft pick, who started only 1 game for his first NFL team and developed an injury history, including concussion issues. But on paper this players college career gives him a pedigree that makes him appear to be better than the current "depth" at the defensive end position. Hopeful fans want to believe his NFL track record is not an important data point related to his future prospects. The fans of the team that cut him, think their team also improved by opening up a roster spot for someone to replace a player who never really contributed to the team meaningfully. A true win-win for all the fans. All of the GM's are correct some of the time. All of the GM's are wrong some of the time. The key is to be right more often than the other GMs are right. Fortunately we have a tool to see which GM's are right more often than the other GM's. Its called the regular season, and we measure it with this cool tool called win loss record. All other assessment's of GM performance are simply people's personal biases and opinions, nothing more. It's fair what you're saying. But there is an added dimension of team chemistry which makes piecing it all dynamicly the true art form. Strategy. Scheme-player fits. Belichick rarely has the super talented highly touted athlete. He's built a machine. He can pop cogs in and out and contend every year. There is way more to it than the "our GM stinks because he picked a sold starter instead of the guy going to a prowbowl for this other team" mantra... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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