SWATeam Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 might pay big $$ for this guy due to weak OL draft this year....plus the obvious connection to Dennison Great point. Our other needs (WR, S, CB) are very deep in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 He has to be better the Mills, right? as are you, bilzfancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Kujo or Henderson would be gone. Mills out too. Then probably a street guy or two in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Wisconsin guy, 27, just under 50 starts all at RTThanx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Additionally this signals: all in Edited March 8, 2017 by Jamie Nails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I would find this to be a big mistake. I think Wagner is good, but paying big money for a RT is ill-advised IMO. The league has shifted the last couple of years. Teams always used to line up their best pass rusher on the blindside, but recently teams have realized the difference in quality between the RT and LT and started putting guys like Von Miller and Mack on the right side. Wagner was graded out as the best RT in football by PFF in 2014, his play declined a little bit the last couple of seasons, but he's a dramatic upgrade over Mills and it's an important position for us if we want to keep with a run oriented offense. This draft is deep on WR talent, but not on olinemen, it would represent a significant investment in our OLine, but put us among the best in the league and hopefully allow some drafted receivers / under the radar FAs to come in and shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 22m22 minutes ago In '15, #Bills aggressively pursued Bryan Bulaga to solidify right edge of OL. Wagner is similar player. Adequate run blocker. Pass pro stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Kujo or Henderson would be gone. Mills out too. Then probably a street guy or two in camp. That would be two Whaley picks and a Whaley FA all gone? Not to start any trouble, but that's not a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Would certainly make for a great Oline to lure a certain injury prone QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Kujo or Henderson would be gone. Mills out too. Then probably a street guy or two in camp. Keep Kujo, he's cheap, if Wagner goes down you can swing Glenn to RT and Kujo at LT. Henderson can't be relied on. There's a reason we found Mills on the street in the middle of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Additionally this signals: all inno it doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 That would be two Whaley picks and a Whaley FA all gone? Not to start any trouble, but that's not a good look. one of the picks was a 7th rounder, so that's not a big deal. This happens to every team. The Kujo pick will look bad if he's gone this year. If he's still on his rookie deal, he'll have a chance to stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 The league has shifted the last couple of years. Teams always used to line up their best pass rusher on the blindside, but recently teams have realized the difference in quality between the RT and LT and started putting guys like Von Miller and Mack on the right side. Wagner was graded out as the best RT in football by PFF in 2014, his play declined a little bit the last couple of seasons, but he's a dramatic upgrade over Mills and it's an important position for us if we want to keep with a run oriented offense. This draft is deep on WR talent, but not on olinemen, it would represent a significant investment in our OLine, but put us among the best in the league and hopefully allow some drafted receivers / under the radar FAs to come in and shine. I don't disagree with any of that. My point is more along the lines of it being a poor investment in the broader scope of team-building. Vis-a-vis: if Wagner is indeed poised to blow up the RT market, then he could be looking at the kind of money that Lane Johnson got last year ($11M AAV). Given that RTs are found in the mid and late rounds on a regular basis, why pay that kind of money to a RT while letting a much more important position (Gilmore) walk out the door? It doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 no it doesn't I don't think they would drop this type of coin to start Cardale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 one of the picks was a 7th rounder, so that's not a big deal. This happens to every team. The Kujo pick will look bad if he's gone this year. If he's still on his rookie deal, he'll have a chance to stick around. I think Kujo stays this year as Cordy's backup. When he is a FA next year, he walks. He's a LT only imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Keep Kujo, he's cheap, if Wagner goes down you can swing Glenn to RT and Kujo at LT. Henderson can't be relied on. There's a reason we found Mills on the street in the middle of the season. Keep Kujo, he's cheap, if Wagner goes down you can swing Glenn to RT and Kujo at LT. Henderson can't be relied on. There's a reason we found Mills on the street in the middle of the season. exactly , good points, Kujo played well in relief of Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 While Chicago is trying to sign Gilmore away hoping Buffalo can finalize deal. RT is a definite need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 That would be two Whaley picks and a Whaley FA all gone? Not to start any trouble, but that's not a good look.kujo is still on the team and improving, henderson was a 7th round pick who was performing until his health issues and mills was a street fa pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 22m22 minutes ago #Bills RT spot: big prob during Whaley's GM tenure. Pears on way down in '13. Seantrel bad as rook. Mills nice street FA but big liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 That would be two Whaley picks and a Whaley FA all gone? Not to start any trouble, but that's not a good look. yea but sometimes t looks worst to do nothing to fix your mistakes just because you dont want to look like you made a mistake in the first place...we need to win now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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