Buffalo_Gal Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 49 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I thought the one yesterday was going to be a one-off. But nope. They're really going to try to make this stick: The meltdown is better than I could have ever hoped. That is nuts! Some people are speculating something is coming down the pike tomorrow as this week has been even nuttier than usual. Who knows though, crazy seems to be the new normal for many with the "#resistance" these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: That is nuts! Some people are speculating something is coming down the pike tomorrow as this week has been even nuttier than usual. Who knows though, crazy seems to be the new normal for many with the "#resistance" these days. Agree with that assessment. It feels like something today is going to pop - but tomorrow makes sense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: The meltdown is better than I could have ever hoped. It's truly the gift that keeps on giving. You'd think the left would be content to let the right swing with an idiot like Jones, but instead they're looking at that idiocy and their best response is "Hold my beer." Delicious and wonderful and you have to give it up to Trump for trolling the snotschitt out of all of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 its the butt hurt that keeps on making us laugh, even well into 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4merper4mer Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 19 hours ago, Tiberius said: This is why Trump and Kim have been meeting! Wait a minute. Is this true? Geez poor Russ Brandon never stood a chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 18 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: What? How could that be? It's not as if the media has been pushing an agenda, facts be damned... Oh... wait... ***************** Chris can't win this fight: Remember what The Federalist used to say about Trump?http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/24/10-things-trump-said-but-says-he-didnt/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Kemp said: Remember what The Federalist used to say about Trump?http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/24/10-things-trump-said-but-says-he-didnt/ Mark Rubio as "Mark Zuckerberg's personal senator" is pretty good, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Kemp said: Remember what The Federalist used to say about Trump?http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/24/10-things-trump-said-but-says-he-didnt/ With respect, I think you're missing the point of the article posted. It's not about the Federalist (remember: it's the story, the journalist, and the outlet), it's about a pattern of deceit that's been evident for over a year. Not one, not two, not three, but multiple major media outlets for months have told the public Mueller had captured calls between Manafort and Russians. It was used as a talking point to hammer POTUS and Manafort both, to poison the mind of the public by painting the picture of Manafort having clandestine calls with Russians about the campaign. It's been a piece of "evidence" cited by many drive-by posters down here for over a year to show that the collusion story is more than a disinformation campaign engineered by our own IC. Now we're learning that's not true... Months after the story has been repeated to the point of being an accepted "fact" by those folk who only get their news and information from headlines (which is a large chunk of people). Doesn't that make you question all the other "facts" you (the general you, not you specifically, Kemp) have heard and accepted as true from reporters citing "unnamed sources" close to Mueller or his team? Throw this on the pile of other now proven falsehoods from the men behind the story's origin - Comey, McCabe, Brennan, and Clapper - and it fits a larger pattern of deceit by major players in the media who, at the urging of the IC, have been pushing an unsubstantiated story after unsubstantiated story designed to undercut (at best) or unseat (at worst) a legally elected POTUS. Not because the collusion is real, but because what POTUS represents is a direct threat to their bottom lines and agendas... These aren't paragons of virtue - Clapper is a proven perjurer. Brennan is a proven perjurer. Both men played a role in some of the darkest chapters in CIA and NSA history. Both men have committed crimes to feather their own nests, at the expense of the people and constitution they swore to defend and uphold. But we are now supposed to take them at their word because Trump is rude, uncouth, and abrasive? Put your feelings about 45 aside for a moment and ask yourself if you're comfortable letting the IC dictate who the people can, and cannot have, as POTUS. We either live in a republic where the people have a say in their leadership - or we don't. The entire "Russian collusion" narrative was began by people who do not want you to have a say in the matter. They think you're stupid, dangerous, and not to be trusted with a vote. So much so they are willing to execute what can only be defined as a palace coup to make things the way they think they should be. That should alarm anyone, regardless of partisanship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Manafort had many, many connections to Russia, working for Putin's puppet in Ukraine before the people woke up and threw them out. That should sound the alarm for anyone, regardless of how far out Trump's fat ass they were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Manafort (and TONY PODESTA) had many, many connections to Russia, working for Putin's puppet in the Ukraine before the people woke up and threw them out. (Fixed it for you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Manafort (and TONY PODESTA) had many, many connections to Russia, working for Putin's puppet in the Ukraine before the people woke up and threw them out. (Fixed it for you) Podesta. That name sounds so familiar. Hmmm, seems like it is connected to some politicians and despicable sexual allegations. I guess sooner or later I'll figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: With respect, I think you're missing the point of the article posted. It's not about the Federalist (remember: it's the story, the journalist, and the outlet), it's about a pattern of deceit that's been evident for over a year. Not one, not two, not three, but multiple major media outlets for months have told the public Mueller had captured calls between Manafort and Russians. It was used as a talking point to hammer POTUS and Manafort both, to poison the mind of the public by painting the picture of Manafort having clandestine calls with Russians about the campaign. It's been a piece of "evidence" cited by many drive-by posters down here for over a year to show that the collusion story is more than a disinformation campaign engineered by our own IC. Now we're learning that's not true... Months after the story has been repeated to the point of being an accepted "fact" by those folk who only get their news and information from headlines (which is a large chunk of people). Doesn't that make you question all the other "facts" you (the general you, not you specifically, Kemp) have heard and accepted as true from reporters citing "unnamed sources" close to Mueller or his team? Throw this on the pile of other now proven falsehoods from the men behind the story's origin - Comey, McCabe, Brennan, and Clapper - and it fits a larger pattern of deceit by major players in the media who, at the urging of the IC, have been pushing an unsubstantiated story after unsubstantiated story designed to undercut (at best) or unseat (at worst) a legally elected POTUS. Not because the collusion is real, but because what POTUS represents is a direct threat to their bottom lines and agendas... These aren't paragons of virtue - Clapper is a proven perjurer. Brennan is a proven perjurer. Both men played a role in some of the darkest chapters in CIA and NSA history. Both men have committed crimes to feather their own nests, at the expense of the people and constitution they swore to defend and uphold. But we are now supposed to take them at their word because Trump is rude, uncouth, and abrasive? Put your feelings about 45 aside for a moment and ask yourself if you're comfortable letting the IC dictate who the people can, and cannot have, as POTUS. We either live in a republic where the people have a say in their leadership - or we don't. The entire "Russian collusion" narrative was began by people who do not want you to have a say in the matter. They think you're stupid, dangerous, and not to be trusted with a vote. So much so they are willing to execute what can only be defined as a palace coup to make things the way they think they should be. That should alarm anyone, regardless of partisanship. When you're saying one side is being consistently deceitful and the other side is Trump and his propensity to lie every single day (that is verifiable fact, not an opinion) it's difficult to take the rest of this seriously. Until the investigation is complete, we can't be certain of much, other than some involved have already pleaded guilty to various crimes. So far we know this about Manafort's supposed role in all of the this: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/report-former-trump-chair-paul-manafort-and-partner-told-to-surrender/544331/. Why the desire from some to shut it down if there were no crimes committed? As to where this investigation may head, one need look no further than the Clinton investigation that concluded in an impeachment based on nothing related to the original investigation. We have watched this process before, but this time it's not fair to do it the same way? When one side opens a door, it shouldn't surprise when the other side uses the same door. Trump and his supporters claimed they wanted to drain the swamp, so let's proceed and see exactly what's in this swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallie Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) Trump is a world class doofus; yet he has provided the voters of this country a great service by further exposing the overwhelming bias of the media, shedding light on the refusal of the major political parties to exert a scintilla of energy toward uniting the nation, and by confirming for all, once again, that incumbent politicians need to be thrown out of office at least every six years. Edited May 4, 2018 by Keukasmallie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kemp said: When you're saying one side is being consistently deceitful and the other side is Trump and his propensity to lie every single day (that is verifiable fact, not an opinion) it's difficult to take the rest of this seriously. Until the investigation is complete, we can't be certain of much, other than some involved have already pleaded guilty to various crimes. So far we know this about Manafort's supposed role in all of the this: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/report-former-trump-chair-paul-manafort-and-partner-told-to-surrender/544331/. Why the desire from some to shut it down if there were no crimes committed? As to where this investigation may head, one need look no further than the Clinton investigation that concluded in an impeachment based on nothing related to the original investigation. We have watched this process before, but this time it's not fair to do it the same way? When one side opens a door, it shouldn't surprise when the other side uses the same door. Trump and his supporters claimed they wanted to drain the swamp, so let's proceed and see exactly what's in this swamp.. It wasn't fair in the 90's as that whole charade by the Republicans back then was just ridiculous. I hear Newt Gingrich whine about the Special Counsel today and it reminds me of why I hate politicians. The thing with Trump is anybody with half a brain knows that he's always been a pathological liar and a womanizer, but we elected him anyways. That's why this Stormy Daniels thing won't hurt him in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Trump was seen as the better alternative to a voting public that already knew all about him keep smashing your heads against a tree acting shocked and all, it won’t matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Kemp said: When you're saying one side is being consistently deceitful and the other side is Trump and his propensity to lie every single day (that is verifiable fact, not an opinion) it's difficult to take the rest of this seriously. Until the investigation is complete, we can't be certain of much, other than some involved have already pleaded guilty to various crimes. So far we know this about Manafort's supposed role in all of the this: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/report-former-trump-chair-paul-manafort-and-partner-told-to-surrender/544331/. Why the desire from some to shut it down if there were no crimes committed? As to where this investigation may head, one need look no further than the Clinton investigation that concluded in an impeachment based on nothing related to the original investigation. We have watched this process before, but this time it's not fair to do it the same way? When one side opens a door, it shouldn't surprise when the other side uses the same door. Trump and his supporters claimed they wanted to drain the swamp, so let's proceed and see exactly what's in this swamp.. 2 parts... first one. Please elaborate. I'm sick and tires of reading this line. Give me a list please, heck, I'll settle for a list of his lies just every day this week Second, totally different situations. Affair aside, no one gave a crap about that. Clinton committed perjury. You know, lied under oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kemp said: When you're saying one side is being consistently deceitful and the other side is Trump and his propensity to lie every single day (that is verifiable fact, not an opinion) it's difficult to take the rest of this seriously. Until the investigation is complete, we can't be certain of much, other than some involved have already pleaded guilty to various crimes. So far we know this about Manafort's supposed role in all of the this: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/report-former-trump-chair-paul-manafort-and-partner-told-to-surrender/544331/. Why the desire from some to shut it down if there were no crimes committed? As to where this investigation may head, one need look no further than the Clinton investigation that concluded in an impeachment based on nothing related to the original investigation. We have watched this process before, but this time it's not fair to do it the same way? When one side opens a door, it shouldn't surprise when the other side uses the same door. Trump and his supporters claimed they wanted to drain the swamp, so let's proceed and see exactly what's in this swamp.. Oh look! It's another deluded democrat. Two years on, STILL no proof of russian collusion. When do you give up? Edit: can't wait till we put the next democrat under investigation. CAN NOT WAIT. Edited May 4, 2018 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Kemp said: When you're saying one side is being consistently deceitful and the other side is Trump and his propensity to lie every single day You're new here, so I'll explain it again: Trump doesn't lie. "Lies" are falsehoods...in being so, they have a connection to the truth. A completely negative connection, but still, a connection. Nothing Trump says has any connection to the truth. He lives in his very own little world of "East Trumpistan." where he issues statements and tweets that have no bearing on anything in reality, including previous statements and tweets. He well and truly believe the bull **** he's spewing at the time he spews it, even if it contradicts what he spewed yesterday, which he also believed at the time he spewed it. He may actually be the most honest politician in the history of the nation, for being too irretrievably stupid to lie. That is no more "lying" than my five-year old niece is lying when she says there's monsters under the bet. It's bloviating from a position of extreme ignorance, stupidity, and unreality. But that isn't lying. 9 minutes ago, Cinga said: Second, totally different situations. Affair aside, no one gave a crap about that. Clinton committed perjury. You know, lied under oath. Which still wasn't related to the original investigation. Can anyone explain how Monica Lewinsky relates to Whitewater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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