YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Bosa missed all of TC and the first 4 games Dak was 4th rd pick and considered a project Congrats to both, neither was an easy task Edited February 5, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Elliot deserved it over Dak for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Great choices for both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Deion jones!!!! I won't say that name again until kickoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Should have been Zeke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 man a lot of people thought bosa was gonna bust out and not in the good way. some crow being eaten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) man a lot of people thought bosa was gonna bust out and not in the good way. some crow being eatenyup.he was the best player in the draft. For all the crap we give the Chargers, they got this very right. Trust the film. I still maintain Joey Bosa is the greatest defensive player in Ohio State history. I've yet to see a convincing argument otherwise. his 2014 season was insane. Best freshman DL I've ever seen until Ed Oliver this year. We all say novenas that his little brother nick will be as good. Alas, it's ok if he's "himself" Edited February 5, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Not enough OSU players getting accolades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 Not enough OSU players getting accolades.michael Thomas ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) michael Thomas ... At this rate, the Jets will draft a QB and Devin Smith will win Comeback Player of the year. Edited February 5, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 michael Thomas ...It was (probably inarguably) the greatest rookie class a school has ever produced. ESPN did that article on it a couple of weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Shocked that Zeke lost OROY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 At this rate, the Jets will draft a QB and Devin Smith will win Comeback Player of the year.bills should trade for him. Cardale -- >> Devin = $It was (probably inarguably) the greatest rookie class a school has ever produced. ESPN did that article on it a couple of weeks ago.un. Real. Should have been two national titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Elliot deserved it over Dak for sure Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Should have been Zeke.Zeke is great, but his impact pales in comparison to a good QB. That's just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Guy on the Bench Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Zeke is great, but his impact pales in comparison to a good QB. That's just the way it is. Right. And it's MUCH harder to have an excellent season as a rookie QB than as a rookie RB. Rookie RBs have great seasons all the time. It's one of the easiest positions to acclimate to in the NFL. I think they made the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 man a lot of people thought bosa was gonna bust out and not in the good way. some crow being eaten I was one of them. Very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 man a lot of people thought bosa was gonna bust out and not in the good way. some crow being eaten Not this guy. Was my 4th overall player last year. One of the few 1st round grades that don't look terrible after Year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I was vocal about Bosa being just an average NFL player and so far he has made me look like a fool. Oh well, I had a fair share of hits to cover up this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Elliot deserved it over Dak for sureAgreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Zeke is great, but his impact pales in comparison to a good QB. That's just the way it is.He was one of the best few players in football (finished 3rd in MVP voting). Dak had a nice year but Zeke is the reason that they were dominant. There's s difference between good and great players. I like Dak quite a bit and in just about any other year he'd be deserving. Zeke's season that was better than the best season numerous HOF backs (Riggins, Bettis, etc...). Dak had one of the best years a rookie QB has ever had. Zeke had a year that ranks with the best any RB has ever had. That's the difference IMO. Zeke's season is a top 30 or so season all-time for a RB (maybe higher). Dak's isn't a top 200 all-time. Edited February 5, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Makes the Chargers look even more like it's run by chumps. The really hassled this kid. Also, MANY opinionators made to look silly saying he was suffering for missing camp. Good for him. Too bad he's stuck in that organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 He was one of the best few players in football (finished 3rd in MVP voting). Dak had a nice year but Zeke is the reason that they were dominant. There's s difference between good and great players. I like Dak quite a bit and in just about any other year he'd be deserving. Zeke's season that was better than the best season numerous HOF backs (Riggins, Bettis, etc...). Dak had one of the best years a rookie QB has ever had. Zeke had a year that ranks with the best any RB has ever had. That's the difference IMO. Zeke's season is a top 30 or so season all-time for a RB (maybe higher). Dak's isn't a top 200 all-time. Zeke puts out 3 more years like that and he'll go in the HoF before TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Zeke puts out 3 more years like that and he'll go in the HoF before TO.Ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 He was one of the best few players in football (finished 3rd in MVP voting). Dak had a nice year but Zeke is the reason that they were dominant. There's s difference between good and great players. I like Dak quite a bit and in just about any other year he'd be deserving. Zeke's season that was better than the best season numerous HOF backs (Riggins, Bettis, etc...). Dak had one of the best years a rookie QB has ever had. Zeke had a year that ranks with the best any RB has ever had. That's the difference IMO. Zeke's season is a top 30 or so season all-time for a RB (maybe higher). Dak's isn't a top 200 all-time. I fully agree with you that Zeke is the better player and more talented player than Dak. Zeke even as a rookie is in the lofty Peterson talent category for RBs. But I disagree (respectfully but strenuously) with you on who is the more important player for the Cowboys. Dak competently taking over the qb position when Romo got hurt was what allowed the Cowboys to have a successful season. I have no doubt (I'm sure you disagree) that if the Cowboys could have one or the other player they would take the qb. I have previously used the same analogy with the Raiders. There is no doubt Kalil Mack is an all-pro caliber of player while Carr is a good qb. If you rank the talent levels for the respective positions Mack ranks demonstrably higher. But as far as importance to the team Carr is immensely more important. Again, if you ask the Raiders which player they would prefer to keep if they had to make a choice undoubtedly it would be the qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I fully agree with you that Zeke is the better player and more talented player than Dak. Zeke even as a rookie is in the lofty Peterson talent category for RBs. But I disagree (respectfully but strenuously) with you on who is the more important player for the Cowboys. Dak competently taking over the qb position when Romo got hurt was what allowed the Cowboys to have a successful season. I have no doubt (I'm sure you disagree) that if the Cowboys could have one or the other player they would take the qb. I have previously used the same analogy with the Raiders. There is no doubt Kalil Mack is an all-pro caliber of player while Carr is a good qb. If you rank the talent levels for the respective positions Mack ranks demonstrably higher. But as far as importance to the team Carr is immensely more important. Again, if you ask the Raiders which player they would prefer to keep if they had to make a choice undoubtedly it would be the qb. I will never disagree that the QB isn't more important. The award to me is "who was the best player?" Zeke was the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I was dead wrong about bosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 For those who admit they were wrong about Bosa, I'm genuinely curious as to why you thought he wouldn't be a great NFL player. It was more than few people who thought this, not just on this board. I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 For those who admit they were wrong about Bosa, I'm genuinely curious as to why you thought he wouldn't be a great NFL player. It was more than few people who thought this, not just on this board. I just don't get it. I was just coming here to say I was wrong about him, too (not that I explicitly stated it pre-draft). I honestly thought he was undersized and didn't have enough speed to make up for it. But I just looked back and he's apparently 6'5" and 270#, so I don't know where I got my perception from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 6, 2017 Author Share Posted February 6, 2017 I was just coming here to say I was wrong about him, too (not that I explicitly stated it pre-draft). I honestly thought he was undersized and didn't have enough speed to make up for it. But I just looked back and he's apparently 6'5" and 270#, so I don't know where I got my perception from he played at 290 in college because he played inside and outside on the DL, and actually lost weight pre-combine to try and run faster. He did both DE and LB drills. He ended up staying at 270 once he was drafted by SD because he was going to OLB in a 3-4. Not sure what Gus Bradley will do with him in the 4-3 - LEO? But he shouldn't mess much with what worked last year imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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