3rdand12 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 What are you talking about? This is a bawdy group that prefers an erect point rather than a flaccid point. Most of the disreputable members here would rather for a change of pace anonymously visit a house of ill-repute than be stuck listening to Murphy glowingly describe the state of affairs at OBD. Being stimulated is certainly better than expending energy to make oneself depressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobshaw81 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 The problem is some posters expect you to throw out some positives for lip service or something. If I post the Pegulas stink at making decisions, I owe at least 3 posts that "Sammy is really talented," or "the jerseys are really cool!" or "Kyle Williams is a great Bill." Â Like who cares about those takes? I need to post them so I don't sound negative? No thanks. I'm here for discussion and discourse and to hear viewpoints that may conflict with mine. A topic where 500 posters all say Kyle is great is not only boring, but entirely unnecessary. We all know and agree. No reason to say it. Â Â I agree with you here but most posters at this forum do not. Â Most here view this place as a fan club, a place to celebrate the Bills. Â Â Â Where do I sign up to get my participation trophy? Winning is overrated. Lets hold hands, sing and celebrate our 10th coach in 18 years! Yay Bills! Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017  It is solely because of the Pegula's that they are in Buffalo and will remain in Buffalo for the next few decades at least. 3 teams are likely moving in this time. THREE! Buffalo would surely have been one if anyone else had bought them. But besides that, they decided that they love the area so much that they are going to invest deep into it and try to improve the area. So they are to be thanked on so many different levels.  But yeah, they didn't win the Superbowl in 2-3 years so them right.  They haven't done nearly as much as Sully, Bucky and Timmah have done for Buffalo!  Im thinking somewhere in the middle of these bi polar opposites would be a good spot  Not John Murphy.....not the media wolves that we have for our team either  Wouldn't it be nice   Maybe that's because the guy from the same newspaper that just called them bozos posed his first question as "Why don't you do more interviews?" followed immediately with "ESPN thinks you're a dumpster fire and the Boston Globe called you a clown show."  TImmah Graham is the Maury Povich of sports writers. He's less concerned with what the Pegulas have to say because he's more concerned with standing in the newsroom echo-chamber post-interview, chuckling with his like-minded colleagues how totally awesome he is to ask that question.  This is exactly it! All I have to say is if it wasn't for the Pegulas, we wouldn't have a team. They are hands on owners because they truly care and want nothing more than to bring a winner to Buffalo. They're doing the absolute best job they can and fully admit that they've made some mistakes but will learn from them. It's not like they've been cheap owners and aren't providing all the financial resources either. You can argue that some of the money hasn't been well spent, but they are certainly giving it their best shot. I never understand all the criticism they get. They've basically saved the city and feel they deserve more respect than they get from the fans and media.  Yup. It used to always be Ralph is cheap, Golisano is cheap, etc..................Now, they've saved the Bills, transformed part of Buffalo, spent money like crazy - and somehow still suck, per some people.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 This thread is dysfunctionalDysfunctional is as dysfunctional does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 TBN's definition of dysfunction: "They disagree with how I would do things" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Bill Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Pegula comes off with a whole lot of snark and also answers in a pretty idiotic manner to more than a handful of questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Pegula comes off with a whole lot of snark and also answers in a pretty idiotic manner to more than a handful of questions. cuz he is kinda pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 What's the tipping point on this issue? When do more people see the media as unreasonable, unsubstantiated and overly sensational (with exceptions of course, JW), and see the team as just being fed up with that? I think there's a lot of sentiment that way at this point. Not entirely, but significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 What's the tipping point on this issue? When do more people see the media as unreasonable, unsubstantiated and overly sensational (with exceptions of course, JW), and see the team as just being fed up with that? I think there's a lot of sentiment that way at this point. Not entirely, but significant. I am a firm believer Terry said piss off, early in the year. And i do think it is still a battle of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I am a firm believer Terry said piss off, early in the year. And i do think it is still a battle of sorts. It seems that way, and to a large extent I don't blame him based on some of the BN stuff. It would be healthier if they could find some common ground and cooperate, but that does NOT mean he has to be totally forthcoming on every issue. As someone said, sometimes a polite "that's none of your business" is a real and fair answer. So much of what I read is NOT true, so it makes the media in general look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 It seems that way, and to a large extent I don't blame him based on some of the BN stuff. It would be healthier if they could find some common ground and cooperate, but that does NOT mean he has to be totally forthcoming on every issue. As someone said, sometimes a polite "that's none of your business" is a real and fair answer. So much of what I read is NOT true, so it makes the media in general look bad. no question The Terry needs a better PR machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 What's the tipping point on this issue? When do more people see the media as unreasonable, unsubstantiated and overly sensational (with exceptions of course, JW), and see the team as just being fed up with that? I think there's a lot of sentiment that way at this point. Not entirely, but significant. Â Â What is the most sensational thing the BN has posted since the Whaley press conference fiasco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 What is the most sensational thing the BN has posted since the Whaley press conference fiasco? Just stop. Â All of their premises are simply speculation. Dysfunction? Repeat it over and over and over. It's like claiming your neighbors marriage is falling apart because you saw them disagree once. Â You can call something a fiasco all you want but doesn't mean everyone has to agree with your premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just stop. Â All of their premises are simply speculation. Dysfunction? Repeat it over and over and over. It's like claiming your neighbors marriage is falling apart because you saw them disagree once. Â You can call something a fiasco all you want but doesn't mean everyone has to agree with your premise. Doesn't mean he is wrong either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 if it is an insult then don't be dysfunctional. fool me once, Sabres, fool me twice Bills. Sorry it is dysfunctional until proven wrong and that means getting to the playoffs and establishing a consistent winner for both franchises.Even if it's not dysfunctional (I believe the FO is) the perception is the FO is dysfunctiinal. Like you say, it won't go away until they start winning and making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Doesn't mean he is wrong either No it doesn't. But the style is obnoxious. It is like saying "when did you stop beating your wife". Â And the fact that he is aPatriots fan makes it even more obnoxious. Go watch your own team. Geez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Even if it's not dysfunctional (I believe the FO is) the perception is the FO is dysfunctiinal. Like you say, it won't go away until they start winning and making the playoffs. But no matter what they do it won't go away until they start winning and making the playoffs. If the FO did everything to perfection the narrative would be "The Bills won the off-season!" but until they win and make the playoffs none of this means anything. Â And that would be totally correct. It doesn't, unless they win. Â But if you agree with that you must also agree that none of this coverage means anything. Which it doesn't. Â If they win, this dysfunction conspiracy all goes away. If they don't win, it will be something else to complain about. Â Granted, I truly believe that to win it all in this season, or even to get in the playoffs you need good ownership, good front office, good coaching and good players, all on the same page. I just don't think the accusations of dysfunction of the Bills by TBN had anything whatsoever to do with winning or losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 No question, TPegs struggles speaking in public. But if that's where Graham is creating his story, HE's dysfunctional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Rex put the "fun" in dysfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Pegula in 2023: "Hey, don't put the 24 year drought on me! It's only been 9 years and change on my watch!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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