Dragonborn10 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I say it is Z. Brown. He is the only guy I believe that can play the middle LB spot in McDermott's defense. Ragland looked slow even for Rex's antiquated defense. I like Lorax as nickel pass rusher opposite Hughes. According to Kelso, this defense puts a premium on CB that can tackle. That might be the final nail in the Gilmore decision to let him walk. Might be easier to find middle of the road DB that can play zone and tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I have to go back and watch Jim Johnson Defense tapes and then Carolina Zach Brown seems like a WLB in most 4-3s but a 4-3 with Zone Blitzing (Jim Johnson) needs that Athletic Mike. Unfortunately both are CB (Darby and Gilmore) struggle in Zone Concepts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I have to go back and watch Jim Johnson Defense tapes and then Carolina Zach Brown seems like a WLB in most 4-3s but a 4-3 with Zone Blitzing (Jim Johnson) needs that Athletic Mike. Unfortunately both are CB (Darby and Gilmore) struggle in Zone Concepts Yeah - not a great fit for gilmore so I don't know that I'd extend him. Franchise is tough since we don't have a ton of space to get to 53. Darby might work OK - but we're going to need some work in the secondary. Z-brown would be a solid fit as a will. Seems to fill gaps pretty well and is athletic enough - but im not giving him like... 6-8 mil a year. He fell off a cliff in the 2nd half of the year. I'd bring back lorax as D-line depth though - guys a gamer and plays teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Yeah - not a great fit for gilmore so I don't know that I'd extend him. Franchise is tough since we don't have a ton of space to get to 53. Darby might work OK - but we're going to need some work in the secondary. Z-brown would be a solid fit as a will. Seems to fill gaps pretty well and is athletic enough - but im not giving him like... 6-8 mil a year. He fell off a cliff in the 2nd half of the year. I'd bring back lorax as D-line depth though - guys a gamer and plays teams. I dont see where Lorax fits this scheme at all. And a 3-4 team is gonna over pay him And i also think after 2017 people will remember why Dareus got the contract he did Edited January 12, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Bob Woods Because he's !@#$ing crazy Edited January 12, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 I dont see where Lorax fits this scheme at all. And a 3-4 team is gonna over pay him And i also think after 2017 people will remember why Dareus got the contract he did Maj, we mostly agree again. I could see Lorax as nickel pass rusher/DE. I don't see a team giving him big money though at his age. But if he stays his biggest impact probably will be at ST's. He will look for one more payday would be my guess. Hopefully the market is cold. Dareus will be a beast next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I think Ragland could be just fine in this defense playing MLB. Jeremiah Trotter excelled in this defense and he wasn't the fastest of guys. I think if Zach Brown is kept it's to play the Thomas Davis position, but I don't believe we will keep him. I think he chases the money elsewhere. Lorax could surely fit as an edge rusher in the defense. I still don't think he's resigned either. Our DT's will be good to go as long as Kyle comes back. Hopefully Dareus stays off that loud for the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I think Ragland could be just fine in this defense playing MLB. Jeremiah Trotter excelled in this defense and he wasn't the fastest of guys. I think if Zach Brown is kept it's to play the Thomas Davis position, but I don't believe we will keep him. I think he chases the money elsewhere. Lorax could surely fit as an edge rusher in the defense. I still don't think he's resigned either. Our DT's will be good to go as long as Kyle comes back. Hopefully Dareus stays off that loud for the offseason. Washington will be fine taking Kyle's three tech if they cant redo that contract. And i dont mean extend again. Cut the contract ans redo a 2 or 3 year deal (Kyle should be open to it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Woods would be my #1 guy to re sign. Time for Bills to have a modern NFL offense. Draft Mike Williams at #10 and open up the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I would not re-sign Gilmore, we will be playing a lot of zone and he's not the best player playing forwards and closing in on the ball. Priority on these players: Bob Woods Zach Brown Jerome Felton Depth and ST guys: Justin Hunter Brandon Tate Corey White Chris Gragg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Gilmore Woods AJ Klein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Im saying woods. But zach would be 1b Edited January 13, 2017 by Agent 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I think Ragland could be just fine in this defense playing MLB. Jeremiah Trotter excelled in this defense and he wasn't the fastest of guys. I think if Zach Brown is kept it's to play the Thomas Davis position, but I don't believe we will keep him. I think he chases the money elsewhere. Lorax could surely fit as an edge rusher in the defense. I still don't think he's resigned either. Our DT's will be good to go as long as Kyle comes back. Hopefully Dareus stays off that loud for the offseason. There's a lot more passing now than when Trotter roamed the middle for Jim Johnson's D in Philly. They'll spend plenty of time in nickel like all defenses do these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Woods would be my #1 guy to re sign. Time for Bills to have a modern NFL offense. Draft Mike Williams at #10 and open up the offense. I'd rather they get Reuben Foster. Nasty with the quick twitch to go along with it. Bring back Woods and Hunter for WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'm going to give it to Brown by a hair over Woods, just because I like the guys like Jackson and Ginn that I could see us making a run at in FA for WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I say it is Z. Brown. He is the only guy I believe that can play the middle LB spot in McDermott's defense. Ragland looked slow even for Rex's antiquated defense. I like Lorax as nickel pass rusher opposite Hughes. According to Kelso, this defense puts a premium on CB that can tackle. That might be the final nail in the Gilmore decision to let him walk. Might be easier to find middle of the road DB that can play zone and tackle. Did he even practice with the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Did he even practice with the team? I say it is Z. Brown. He is the only guy I believe that can play the middle LB spot in McDermott's defense. Ragland looked slow even for Rex's antiquated defense. I like Lorax as nickel pass rusher opposite Hughes. According to Kelso, this defense puts a premium on CB that can tackle. That might be the final nail in the Gilmore decision to let him walk. Might be easier to find middle of the road DB that can play zone and tackle. Ragland got hurt like a week into TC, how do you know he looked slow in Rex's scheme? Theres a difference between being fast and playing fast, Im sure Ragland will be fine. Dude is 1st team All American from a winning/dominating program. Edited January 13, 2017 by Marty McFly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Zach Brown seems like a perfect fit for this system. Sideline to sideline Lb with good cover skills and the ability to blitz. We need speed at Lb. brown is slow and Ragland, while probably quicker than given credit for is more of a thumper. Robert Woods is a close 2nd. Our depth at WR is......well, considering we only have one WR, we don't have any depth and only 1 starter. While he's one of my favorite Bills, I don't think he's worth the money someone else might throw his way. Considering we have no idea who our QB or OC is as of now, I think we're gonna let him go. I was one of Gilmore biggest fans....until this year. While he played much better in the 2nd half of the year (he actually played really well) I don't know how well he's going to play as a zone corner. I wouldn't mind franchising him and seeing what he can do in the system as opposed to drafting a CB high. I think he, like woods, would like to move on and see what life outside of Buffalo is like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Ragland got hurt like a week into TC, how do you know he looked slow in Rex's scheme? Theres a difference between being fast and playing fast, Im sure Ragland will be fine. Dude is 1st team All American from a winning/dominating program. Ragland plays fast enough to play inside or outside in McDermott's defense, IMO. It's Preston Brown that I worry about. I think Zach Brown should be a priority. I think Bob Woods will garner too much money in the open market for us to be able to compete with. After Zach, Jerome Felton and Justin Hunter should be re-signed. Hunter will be cheap, and is a good red zone target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Ragland plays fast enough to play inside or outside in McDermott's defense, IMO. It's Preston Brown that I worry about. I think Zach Brown should be a priority. I think Bob Woods will garner too much money in the open market for us to be able to compete with. After Zach, Jerome Felton and Justin Hunter should be re-signed. Hunter will be cheap, and is a good red zone target. Agree. Someone posted on here the tweet Zach already shouted out McDermott on his twitter handle so Im assuming hes more open to coming back to Buffalo than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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