BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Okay...I'm not trying to pick you apart, but these aren't exactly amazing resume bullet points for this guy. 1. Coaching Kyle Orton's best year should not be the top highlight of any potential OC. 2. That offense was...well, I remember the Bills picking Tebow off 4 times in the first half once...let's just say it was fluky at best. I'm not sure how brilliantly he "customized his offense," but rather they ran a ton of college plays to help Tebow out. 3. Yeah, I'm aware he was the QB coach of a team that went to and lost the superbowl, but I mean, really...that's reaching isn't it. That was almost 15 years ago now. Great, more excuses. I realize you can't just grab a guy with a ton of highlights off the street, but I was hoping for and would lean towards some fresh faces. These loser retreads are getting old. You're right, we shouldn't care that an average journeyman had his best year under McCoy and we shouldn't care that a trashcan QB like Delhomme made it to the Superbowl under his teaching. Personally, I think it says something when some of these guys all have their best years and most success under his watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 More fact free speculation. This guy could get a job at ESPN, or maybe even TBN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 I've always had good luck with rotoworld. I believe them until they end up being wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Not 100% Confirmed? It's not confirmed at all. Its 50% confirmed. Like a half confirmation. Someone said "Yemaybe" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 You're right, we shouldn't care that an average journeyman had his best year under McCoy and we shouldn't care that a trashcan QB like Delhomme made it to the Superbowl under his teaching. Personally, I think it says something when some of these guys all have their best years and most success under his watch. The above carefully omits that he went to the playoffs once in four years with Philip Rivers as his QB. He's hardly a QB whisperer. No idea why we need to pretend he's not a complete crap-shoot of an OC. You can't cherry picking a couple of above average seasons and act like he'll do that (one of them, mind you, is being a QB coach...), and that he won't field an offense like his past two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Someone better tell Musgrave not to show up. @AdamSchefter Denver has two OC interviews now set up for Thursday, per sources: Mike McCoy and Bill Musgrave. Each have Broncos connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The above carefully omits that he went to the playoffs once in four years with Philip Rivers as his QB. He's hardly a QB whisperer. No idea why we need to pretend he's not a complete crap-shoot of an OC. You can't cherry picking a couple of above average seasons and act like he'll do that (one of them, mind you, is being a QB coach...), and that he won't field an offense like his past two seasons. He wasn't the OC with Rivers, but who's counting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 He wasn't the OC with Rivers, but who's counting? Wow. Head Coach bares no responsibility, but QB coach does. You live in a weird world sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Wow. Head Coach bares no responsibility, but QB coach does. You live in a weird world sometimes. Yes, because we've never pointed to coaches and said, 'Terrible HC, Great Coordinator' (Schwartz, Rex, Haley, etc.) A HC cannot put the time into one side of the ball to bear responsibility for it like when they are a coordinator. They are busy bearing the responsibility for overall team preparation, clock management, game situation management, roster management, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) If it isn't a sure thing right now, it will be if Denver offers. The fact that he's flying to Denver tomorrow to interview with them, full well knowing McDermott is HC here says Denver is where he wants to be. And it should be. Amongst the available coaching gigs, it was pretty much unanimously Denver and everyone else amongst the national media. Only shot I see us having is if Denver decides to go with Musgrave. Edited January 12, 2017 by BillsFanForever19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 He had a number 1 rushing attack and several top 10 passing offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Mike @blaze2daye @MikeSilver isn't Mike McCoy the top option as OC? Michael Silver @MikeSilver 2m2 minutes ago He has other options so Bills may have to look elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Okay...I'm not trying to pick you apart, but these aren't exactly amazing resume bullet points for this guy. 1. Coaching Kyle Orton's best year should not be the top highlight of any potential OC. IMO, its as much an accomplishment as being the OC of Brady, etc. 2. That offense was...well, I remember the Bills picking Tebow off 4 times in the first half once...let's just say it was fluky at best. I'm not sure how brilliantly he "customized his offense," but rather they ran a ton of college plays to help Tebow out. The fact we don't have a great QB, it sure is important to know what he did to customize for a non conventional QB. 3. Yeah, I'm aware he was the QB coach of a team that went to and lost the superbowl, but I mean, really...that's reaching isn't it. That was almost 15 years ago now. Having a QB coaching background IMO is critical - I sure wouldn't want our OC to never have spent time developing QB's. Expecially if we have to draft one. Great, more excuses. I realize you can't just grab a guy with a ton of highlights off the street, but I was hoping for and would lean towards some fresh faces. These loser retreads are getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Im wondering why we would not look at Musgrave? The raiders pretty good on offense this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Im wondering why we would not look at Musgrave? The raiders pretty good on offense this year Not too hard to drive that Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Not too hard to drive that Carr. Well true but its not like McCoy's last qb was chopped liver either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Well true but its not like McCoy's last qb was chopped liver either? Interesting that the Raiders dropped Musgrave so they could hold on to ex-Bills' QB coach Todd Downing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Great, more excuses. I realize you can't just grab a guy with a ton of highlights off the street, but I was hoping for and would lean towards some fresh faces. These loser retreads are getting old. Fresh faces like Nathaniel Hackett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Fresh faces like Nathaniel Hackett? Jesus, no. The OC at a .500 Syracuse team is not what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Mike @blaze2daye @MikeSilver isn't Mike McCoy the top option as OC? Michael Silver @MikeSilver 2m2 minutes ago He has other options so Bills may have to look elsewhere As in " he won't be going to Buffalo . He has options" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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