Mike in Horseheads Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 DeShone Kizer committed to the NFL draft today. I watched a lot of Irish football and I'm very skeptical of the kid as a starter in the NFL. I think he's projected as 2nd round, worth a pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I said it in the draft prospect thread, but I don't see how the team keeps him and Cardale on the same roster. We don't need 2 projects, and I do believe Kizer is a project, though maybe with a shorter timeline than Cardale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Yes please. Or a Kaaya if they're out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Two words: !@#$ No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Kizer has all the talent in the world and I think it was the smartest move for him to leave ND. I'm a ND fan saying this. Kelly was going to ruin him if he stayed. I worry about Kizer's field vision at times because he would miss open guys, but accuracy or arm strength are not question marks with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Kizer has all the talent in the world and I think it was the smartest move for him to leave ND. I'm a ND fan saying this. Kelly was going to ruin him if he stayed. I worry about Kizer's field vision at times because he would miss open guys, but accuracy or arm strength are not question marks with him. Interesting. Why have the Irish struggled this season? I don't watch them, but Kizer's numbers are solid. Is it defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Interesting. Why have the Irish struggled this season? I don't watch them, but Kizer's numbers are solid. Is it defense? The defense has been absolutely horrendous, but Kelly's gameplans have been just as bad. I get more pissed watching him call plays than I did Roman if that tells you anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Interesting. Why have the Irish struggled this season? I don't watch them, but Kizer's numbers are solid. Is it defense? Defense is beyond terrible. Kizer is a project, but as an ND fan, I agree we already have a high-ceiling project on the roster. The kid couldn't beat out Zaire to start the year despite putting up good numbers last year which to me looks like a leadership deficiency, which is really the only thing Zaire has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills of Boston Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Irish D was horrific and they did lose a ton of juniors to draft last year. Talent and leadership all gone at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 No. Use Dak Prescott as the model. You want a guy thats a senior with 4 years of playing experience in college and has had a lot of success. Kizer should have stayed in school, he has a lot he needs to improve on. Hes not even close to being ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I would love to see Kizer on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm torn on Kizer. There's a couple of throws in the Michigan State game where I fell for him big time. He's got something about him that draws me in. I think he's far from a perfect prospect but some of the anticipation and pocket movement makes me consider pulling the trigger on him, potentially even in the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The defense has been absolutely horrendous, but Kelly's gameplans have been just as bad. I get more pissed watching him call plays than I did Roman if that tells you anything. I agree with this assessment, 100%. I also believe Kizer would be better off going to New Orleans as developing a year or two while Brees plays I think be amazing for him. IMO he could be a very successful QB with the right coach and QB learn from. I think he be horendous in Buffalo simply because you have a HC who has never ever been able develop a QB and no one to learn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm torn on Kizer. There's a couple of throws in the Michigan State game where I fell for him big time. He's got something about him that draws me in. I think he's far from a perfect prospect but some of the anticipation and pocket movement makes me consider pulling the trigger on him, potentially even in the 1st. Does he do anything presnap? Is he required to in that offense? I have only watched him play one game, I wasn't impressed but it's not a fair assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 No. Use Dak Prescott as the model. You want a guy thats a senior with 4 years of playing experience in college and has had a lot of success. Kizer should have stayed in school, he has a lot he needs to improve on. Hes not even close to being ready AGREED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm torn on Kizer. There's a couple of throws in the Michigan State game where I fell for him big time. He's got something about him that draws me in. I think he's far from a perfect prospect but some of the anticipation and pocket movement makes me consider pulling the trigger on him, potentially even in the 1st. I love his big arm, his anticipation throws, his ability to feel pressure and create time in the pocket, and his ability to make pre-snap reads and line checks. I think he has the potential to be the real deal in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Not a big fan, but I'm sure this post will get lit up with ND fans clamoring for Kizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Patrick Mahomes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Does he do anything presnap? Is he required to in that offense? I have only watched him play one game, I wasn't impressed but it's not a fair assessment. I can't remember from memory. I'll dig though my notes later and see if I jotted somthing down. ND Fans might know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Interesting. Why have the Irish struggled this season? I don't watch them, but Kizer's numbers are solid. Is it defense? They had several defensive players suspended for pot and guns right before the season, and like others have said Kelly did him no favors. Not a big fan, but I'm sure this post will get lit up with ND fans clamoring for Kizer. Wrong... I'm a Irish fan and skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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