atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 That list does tell the story. Whaley needs Listenbee to step up. Whaley also needs to find some TE's. Great point about Gailey's offense. Gailey really did maximize those guys potential on the offensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 There were actually 8 picks in the first five rounds devoted to the position if you include the extra first and fourth used to obtain Watkins and that makes it hurt even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Almost all these guys panned out or stuck around a while.You are correct but none were dominant and this list includes players drafted at #8, #10, and #11, none of which were good draft selections for the Bills. The evidence really is clear. The Bills concentrated on secondary help more than pass rush, blocking, or even the QB position. Then, they lost games and failed to make the playoffs. The fact that all of those guys didn't completely suck has no meaning when your football team is losing for 17 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 That list does tell the story. Whaley needs Listenbee to step up. Whaley also needs to find some TE's. Great point about Gailey's offense. Gailey really did maximize those guys potential on the offensive side of the ball. I believe both Jones and Nelson were undrafted FAs? You are correct but none were dominant and this list includes players drafted at #8, #10, and #11, none of which were good draft selections for the Bills. The evidence really is clear. The Bills concentrated on secondary help more than pass rush, blocking, or even the QB position. Then, they lost games and failed to make the playoffs. The fact that all of those guys didn't completely suck has no meaning when your football team is losing for 17 years. This does help put it in perspective, all kind of attention to d-backs, but minimal attention to the people that can actually score points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood for Wall of Fame Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Renember that preseason when Easley was a complete beast? Whatever happened to that? Probably the same thing that happened to that preseason when Jeff Tuel was a complete beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Year Rd Player Pick Pos 2014 1 Sammy Watkins 4 WR 2013 2 Robert Woods 41 WR 2013 3 Marquise Goodwin 78 WR 2012 3 T.J. Graham 69 WR 2010 4 Marcus Easley 107 WR 2008 2 James Hardy 41 WR First off there are only 6 of them, and secondly it's bust central. We deserve this. You forgot Steve Johnson, Kolby Listenbee, and Dezmin Lewis. There are 9 of them, not six. According to ProFootball Stats whose records date from 2007 here are the total numbers of WRs drafted for each team. Atlanta - 5 Buffalo - 9 Carolina - 7 Chicago - 9 Cincinnati - 15 Cleveland - 11 Indy - 7 Arizona - 8 Dallas - 6 Denver - 6 Detroit - 8 Green Bay - 10 Houston - 11 Jax - 11 KC - 12 Miami - 12 Minny - 11 NewOrleans - 6 Pats*** - 10 Jints - 9 JESTS - 10 Ten - 10 Philly - 8 Pit - 11 Oakland - 11 Rams (STL/LA) - 13 Ballmore - 12 San Diego - 5 Seattle - 8 SanFran - 9 Tampa - 8 Washing - 11 That's a total of 299 receivers selected in the ten drafts from 2007 though 2016. That's a League average of 9.3 WRs taken per team over ten years. The Bills picked 9 WRs in those ten years. You were saying? Edited October 1, 2016 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 You forgot Steve Johnson, Kolby Listenbee, and Dezmin Lewis. There are 9 of them, not six. According to ProFootball Stats whose records date from 2007 here are the total numbers of WRs drafted for each team. Atlanta - 5 Buffalo - 9 Carolina - 7 Chicago - 9 Cincinnati - 15 Cleveland - 11 Indy - 7 Arizona - 8 Dallas - 6 Denver - 6 Detroit - 8 Green Bay - 10 Houston - 11 Jax - 11 KC - 12 Miami - 12 Minny - 11 NewOrleans - 6 Pats*** - 10 Jints - 9 JESTS - 10 Ten - 10 Philly - 8 Pit - 11 Oakland - 11 Rams (STL/LA) - 13 Ballmore - 12 San Diego - 5 Seattle - 8 SanFran - 9 Tampa - 8 Washing - 11 That's a total of 299 receivers selected in the ten drafts from 2007 though 2016. That's a League average of 9.3 WRs taken per team over ten years. The Bills picked 9 WRs in those ten years. You were saying? Don't confuse people with accurate data and contextually sound reasoning. It takes away from their ability to argue whatever point they wanted to make. Come on man, look at our Presidential candidates in the two major parties! They aren't tied to facts and reason so why should we be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Right. What was I thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 You forgot Steve Johnson, Kolby Listenbee, and Dezmin Lewis. There are 9 of them, not six. That's a total of 299 receivers selected in the ten drafts from 2007 though 2016. That's a League average of 9.3 WRs taken per team over ten years. The Bills picked 9 WRs in those ten years. You were saying? Don't confuse people with accurate data and contextually sound reasoning. It takes away from their ability to argue whatever point they wanted to make. Come on man, look at our Presidential candidates in the two major parties! They aren't tied to facts and reason so why should we be? The title pretty clearly says in the top 5 rounds. TJ Graham is by far the worst pick. We traded up for that POS and passed on both Russell Wilson and Captain Kirk. Also passed on TY Hilton, if they were dead set on receiver that round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 As BuffaloHokie has already pointed out, Naker and Sakman cannot read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir andrew Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 You forgot Steve Johnson, Kolby Listenbee, and Dezmin Lewis. There are 9 of them, not six. According to ProFootball Stats whose records date from 2007 here are the total numbers of WRs drafted for each team. Atlanta - 5 Buffalo - 9 Carolina - 7 Chicago - 9 Cincinnati - 15 Cleveland - 11 Indy - 7 Arizona - 8 Dallas - 6 Denver - 6 Detroit - 8 Green Bay - 10 Houston - 11 Jax - 11 KC - 12 Miami - 12 Minny - 11 NewOrleans - 6 Pats*** - 10 Jints - 9 JESTS - 10 Ten - 10 Philly - 8 Pit - 11 Oakland - 11 Rams (STL/LA) - 13 Ballmore - 12 San Diego - 5 Seattle - 8 SanFran - 9 Tampa - 8 Washing - 11 That's a total of 299 receivers selected in the ten drafts from 2007 though 2016. That's a League average of 9.3 WRs taken per team over ten years. The Bills picked 9 WRs in those ten years. You were saying? ...And boom goes the dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 You forgot Steve Johnson, Kolby Listenbee, and Dezmin Lewis. There are 9 of them, not six. According to ProFootball Stats whose records date from 2007 here are the total numbers of WRs drafted for each team. Atlanta - 5 Buffalo - 9 Carolina - 7 Chicago - 9 Cincinnati - 15 Cleveland - 11 Indy - 7 Arizona - 8 Dallas - 6 Denver - 6 Detroit - 8 Green Bay - 10 Houston - 11 Jax - 11 KC - 12 Miami - 12 Minny - 11 NewOrleans - 6 Pats*** - 10 Jints - 9 JESTS - 10 Ten - 10 Philly - 8 Pit - 11 Oakland - 11 Rams (STL/LA) - 13 Ballmore - 12 San Diego - 5 Seattle - 8 SanFran - 9 Tampa - 8 Washing - 11 That's a total of 299 receivers selected in the ten drafts from 2007 though 2016. That's a League average of 9.3 WRs taken per team over ten years. The Bills picked 9 WRs in those ten years. You were saying? Read the thread title again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) ...And boom goes the dynamite.Woooosh---- the thread title flies past another I do appreciate the work and would be curious about looking at it tiered out a bit more (cutoffs seemed arbitrary). Not sure if we tried less or missed more or.... but that list was certainly underwhelming in WR production Edited October 1, 2016 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 You want something real depressing do the QB list. Or the running back list to see how we have completely overvalued that position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Panned out or stuck around a while? I shutter to think what it would look like to put a list of WRs that went after these guys together.... Not really though, and I don't really mean that as a fair statement. But the point stands, we haven't invested in a passing game. We haven't had a passing game. The DB picks. If you look they have selected a bunch of solid DB talent into the league You are correct but none were dominant and this list includes players drafted at #8, #10, and #11, none of which were good draft selections for the Bills. The evidence really is clear. The Bills concentrated on secondary help more than pass rush, blocking, or even the QB position. Then, they lost games and failed to make the playoffs. The fact that all of those guys didn't completely suck has no meaning when your football team is losing for 17 years. Again just pointing out the db scouting formula seems sound. Not excusing or debating the rest of the story. Hell even Russ Cockrell and Brooks are collecting paychecks in the league. Edited October 1, 2016 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Year Rd Player Pick Pos 2014 1 Sammy Watkins 4 WR 2013 2 Robert Woods 41 WR 2013 3 Marquise Goodwin 78 WR 2012 3 T.J. Graham 69 WR 2010 4 Marcus Easley 107 WR 2008 2 James Hardy 41 WR First off there are only 6 of them, and secondly it's bust central. We deserve this. Part of the Bills problem at WR is that they have one good WR and the rest sucked. When that one good WR went down to injury, the receiving game was not existent. The Bills need at least three good WR's. Look at how Fitz tore up the Bills with the WR's they have. That's what the Bills need of they're going to continue to have sub-par/mediocre QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 So many DBs?? Wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 As BuffaloHokie has already pointed out, Naker and Sakman cannot read. 5 rounds is an arbitrary cutoff. He showed what other teams do in drafting WR's and the Bills averaged out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 So many DBs?? WtfDon't forget, teams typically have more DBs on the roster than WRs, so it's hardly surprising or a sign of the apocalypse that the Bills have drafted a lot more DBs. DBs also tend to be a team's key special teams performers, so there's that. The quality of the WR picks is certainly open to question though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Don't you need to count Sammy "IR" Watkins 2 x? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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