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Tyrod: Regressed?


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Unless he starts doing basic QB stuff i am not wanting a 15m cap hit RB that hits occasional big pass on the roster.

Exactly. We sat here and talked about this midseason last year and hoped his deficiency in seeing/throwing to the middle of the field would get better. It has not. If it doesn't he makes it very easy for opposing D coordinators to take away half the field. Don't care how athletic he is you will never win if you can't be a complete QB

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His chances of seeing $27M next season are not looking good at this point.

If everyone knew Mario was going to be cut for his 17 mil or so when he was a probowler. We should all be almost TOO confident Tyrod won't be here next year at 27 mil

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This is who he was last year. If anything, his accuracy looks worse this year. The only difference is he doens't have the benefit of the running game picking up yards to open things up for the passing attack.

But if despite the running game being missing in action he's putting up relatively the same stats.... is he worse?

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This is who he was last year. If anything, his accuracy looks worse this year. The only difference is he doens't have the benefit of the running game picking up yards to open things up for the passing attack.

Yep. Pretty much the same guy. Which is too bad since we were hoping for improvement, but I don't think he's "regressed" at all. I do see him as more hesitant to run, which makes him significantly less valuable, but he'll start running real soon since this is now must win territory.

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One of the film breakdown guys (Erik or YPP, can't remember) said that opposition coaches have actively worked on taking away the Bills pin and pull run blocking. That would be the result of offseason tendency scouting.

 

There is merit to Bobby's idea too, no linebacker cares about what's behind them and will sell out on the run if they know the QB won't make them pay for it.

 

It seemed in the offseason that Roman was aware of the adjustments that defense's were going to make.

 

I think the run game would have still served it's purpose but McCoy and Bush aren't taking the inside options and can't deal out any punishment.

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Among whom, exactly?

Among who? How many times did you hear last year. We finally have our guy. The front office. We have our guy. I'm not making this up. If i were wrong no one would be calling him TyGod Tryhard. He was annointed too soon. And now he is what some said he was. People want to get amnesia. Remember the whole this is the best qb play we have seen since Kelly rhetoric. It has been so nauseating. It has made many just plain not like him.

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If everyone knew Mario was going to be cut for his 17 mil or so when he was a probowler. We should all be almost TOO confident Tyrod won't be here next year at 27 mil

Another question do we keep a 29 year old running back who no longer can out run Defender's to the edge? More over do we even want an edge rusher?

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Is that because he mad the Pro Bowl last season? :lol:

Exactly. As the second alternate and did absolutely nothing. When he came I was like ok either he or EJ will start. He completed some balls ran like the wind and everyone got so googly eyed. They didn't see that this dude was a welcome story but he had glaring weaknesses. Remember the whole he put them on his back and single handedly won the Tennessee game in the clutch. Then the air raid drills to watkins. Oh lord let's not let this man get away. Meanwhile Clay has proven himself in this league and has had some high points with us. Use the weapons.throw the ball to them.

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But if despite the running game being missing in action he's putting up relatively the same stats.... is he worse?

 

Pretty small sample size so far to be comparing numbers. Just looking at his on field play only, his accuracy looks worse. He's missing and is late on throws that you would expect him to make.

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i guess, i think my point is that last year he was one of the slowest qbs to release the ball, and struggled with the intermediate.

 

couple that with the fact that the stats are nearly identical... i guess the question i would ask is what makes you think the stats arent telling the story and his reads have gotten slower, for instance?

I'll tell you, in the Ravens game he took zero chances (all safe throws) and missed opportunities for big plays. In the Jets game, he made two big plays (give him full credit) but padded his stats at the end when the Jets were playing soft with the big lead. Stats don't always tell the story. He has regressed. I do think not establishing a running game hurts, but I see plenty of plays to be made and he either throws a bad ball or goes with the wrong read.

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