mellaman101 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I would be on the phone with the Vikings to trade EJ and free up that cap space. Get EJ out the door for a player or really low pick. At the same time, I would have Greg Hardy in for a visit. Our pass rush with Hardy/Hughes connection would be incredible.. This is just my take on things. But a one year deal for Greg right now would be a cheap option for him just to play. I know he is a head case at times but he can play, and our D does need the help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I seriously doubt the Vikings would trade anything for EJ, and Cardale is not ready to be the #2. I'm not an EJ fan, but he serves a purpose this year. As far as Hardy, forget about Carolina, and watch him in Dallas. He was a problem on the sidelines, didn't show up for meetings on time, and most importantly he sucked. He made no impact, and was thought to be out of shape. He couldn't get in shape in time. What would be different here? If we wanted depth we should have gone after Freeney, or Kruger and Coples this week. Mellaman, I like your creativity, but don't think these options would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 EJ's cap numbers are hardly restrictive. In fact they are reasonable. The Bills would have no number #2 QB no matter what anyone outside of OBD believes. Jones? Lol. And finally the Vikes simply aren't that stoopid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Nope and nope . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I would be on the phone with the Vikings to trade EJ and free up that cap space. Get EJ out the door for a player or really low pick. At the same time, I would have Greg Hardy in for a visit. Our pass rush with Hardy/Hughes connection would be incredible.. This is just my take on things. But a one year deal for Greg right now would be a cheap option for him just to play. I know he is a head case at times but he can play, and our D does need the help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I would be on the phone with the Vikings to trade EJ and free up that cap space. Get EJ out the door for a player or really low pick. At the same time, I would have Greg Hardy in for a visit. Our pass rush with Hardy/Hughes connection would be incredible.. This is just my take on things. But a one year deal for Greg right now would be a cheap option for him just to play. I know he is a head case at times but he can play, and our D does need the help.... And who would be the backup QB? The 4th round rookie with 8 college starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Given the propensity for QBs to get hurt on the run (Tyrod), and given that QBs like Mark Sanchez and Kaep may be cut and available soon... Why would we trade him away, and why would the Vikes give up anything worthwhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreFanBills Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I am not on board with the exact strategy proposed however if TT cannot start for a long period of time we are hosed anyway. Its not like EJ is going to win us anymore games than some other backup QB. So if we can trade him for something decent I say go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I am not on board with the exact strategy proposed however if TT cannot start for a long period of time we are hosed anyway. Its not like EJ is going to win us anymore games than some other backup QB. So if we can trade him for something decent I say go for it. Not sure I agree. Let's suppose that Tyrod were to miss 4 games--I like EJ's chances of getting us to 0.500 over those 4 games more than I do for anyone else that would be available at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I would be on the phone with the Vikings to trade EJ and free up that cap space. Get EJ out the door for a player or really low pick. At the same time, I would have Greg Hardy in for a visit. Our pass rush with Hardy/Hughes connection would be incredible.. This is just my take on things. But a one year deal for Greg right now would be a cheap option for him just to play. I know he is a head case at times but he can play, and our D does need the help.... Then how do you handle the Bills backup QB situation? Are you really "all in" with Cardale after a few minutes of play against a vanilla D populated by backups? I'm not. I think the Bills are finally heading into the season with an established starter and a reasonable backup who is thoroughly familiar with the system. For once, it ain't broke, don't fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Can hardy even play 3-4 OLB? Edited August 31, 2016 by WMDman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Fans need to stop thinking about football players like it's fantasy football or Madden. Greg Hardy has serious mental and emotional issues that he's been unable to control. These issues plagued him in Carolina and ruined his career in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I am not on board with the exact strategy proposed however if TT cannot start for a long period of time we are hosed anyway. Its not like EJ is going to win us anymore games than some other backup QB. So if we can trade him for something decent I say go for it. So he's not good enough to play for us anyway - and the Vikings are going to bring him in to be their starter? Or are you saying they'd "trade something decent" for a backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Sometimes I really wonder why I click on certain threads. I should've learned by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 If we are going to trade our less than stellar players I'll trade EJ and Cyrill Richardson for Patterson and Boringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Damn, another "EJ situation!" What's he doing now? Not standing during the anthem? Hitting his girlfriend? Using drugs? Boot stomping off duty cops? That guy is such a distraction he's just not worth having on the team anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Not sure I agree. Let's suppose that Tyrod were to miss 4 games--I like EJ's chances of getting us to 0.500 over those 4 games more than I do for anyone else that would be available at this point. I believe you are right, and that EJ may surprise a lot of doubters if he plays. He is finally showing the development the FO imagined when he was drafted. It's unfortunate he was pushed into a starting position way to soon, and developed all this negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Fans need to stop thinking about football players like it's fantasy football or Madden. Greg Hardy has serious mental and emotional issues that he's been unable to control. These issues plagued him in Carolina and ruined his career in Dallas. I was going to reply with something flippant like, "if we need someone to beat the crap out of women, I'm sure we can find a cheaper option," but I like this response a lot more. Hardy is either a monster, a tragic figure, or both. But even if you don't care morally about employing such a person, it's still a bad idea just on the selfish front. Hardy would be a negative asset. So he's not good enough to play for us anyway - and the Vikings are going to bring him in to be their starter? Or are you saying they'd "trade something decent" for a backup? Classic fan logic - can't blame a guy for trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I believe you are right, and that EJ may surprise a lot of doubters if he plays. He is finally showing the development the FO imagined when he was drafted. It's unfortunate he was pushed into a starting position way to soon, and developed all this negativity. I think it's more that the coaches are putting him in a better place to use the abilities he has. To his credit I think he has gotten better with the sideline throws but in the end he doesn't seem changed too much to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I think it's more that the coaches are putting him in a better place to use the abilities he has. To his credit I think he has gotten better with the sideline throws but in the end he doesn't seem changed too much to me. I agree with that. He's still a 60% passer who can extend plays with his legs and regularly hit both the seam throws and deep patterns. To me, that's classic backup-type material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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