YoloinOhio Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 In honor of our first opponent Interesting read The organization's reputation has taken a hit, all while it's stuck in salary cap jail with no easy way out. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/7/1/12008540/ravens-super-bowl-salary-cap-joe-flacco-contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 The answer is simple - bad drafting. I made a post earlier in the offseason about how the great Ozzie Newsome has failed to rebuild the previously fearsome Ravens defense. They have spent so many 1st and 2nd rounders the last 5 or 6 years on defense and have had very few success stories among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 This explanation makes me even happier that the Bills have not broken the bank by paying Tyrod elite money yet (yet is important here). I am ok with the idea that they have taken a wait and see approach with him. The cap dynamics of paying a player QB elite money for average or worse performance can be crippling to a franchise. The article correctly points out that there are other issues with the organization. The Bills are hardly immune from them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 This is overblown, they were 10-6 two years ago. Last season they had a record amount of injuries and many of them too key positions. They had something like 20 guys on IR and 8 of those were week 1 starters. Any team that loses its starting QB is screwed, then to lose 3 WR's, a TE, two running backs etc. http://m.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Reach-Record-Number-Of-Players-On-Injured-Reserve-In-John-Harbaugh-Era/b13d9c11-26a3-4102-abf8-ffde6a307f95 The answer is simple - bad drafting. I made a post earlier in the offseason about how the great Ozzie Newsome has failed to rebuild the previously fearsome Ravens defense. They have spent so many 1st and 2nd rounders the last 5 or 6 years on defense and have had very few success stories among them. They had one bad draft in 13'. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=0325&type=team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 They failed to start Taylor. Wonder how much they could have gotten for Flacco in a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 They got caught. Flacco went on a tear the year they won the SB, and they were forced to pay him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 In honor of our first opponent Interesting read http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/7/1/12008540/ravens-super-bowl-salary-cap-joe-flacco-contract The Ravens are in salary cap jail just like the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) They got caught. Flacco went on a tear the year they won the SB, and they were forced to pay him. I wouldn't mind getting "caught" like that. Flacco bet on himself, carried the Ravens through the playoffs to a championship and got paid large for it. He hasn't been worthy of the contract since, but I'd gladly be in that spot. This season if Tyrod wants to go on a tear, win a championship, get an Andrew Luck deal and then revert to mediocrity, he can be my guest. The Ravens are in salary cap jail just like the Colts.They have had cap issues due to money tied up in underperforming and/or aging players. That is compounded by some poor/unlucky drafting. Ozzie has generally taken risks in the draft. In the years leading up to the Super Bowls he hit a lot of home runs when he was swinging for the fences, but now he's striking out a lot. It is telling to see him pass on Tunsil for Stanley. Times are a changin'. Edited July 2, 2016 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 This explanation makes me even happier that the Bills have not broken the bank by paying Tyrod elite money yet (yet is important here). I am ok with the idea that they have taken a wait and see approach with him. The cap dynamics of paying a player QB elite money for average or worse performance can be crippling to a franchise. The article correctly points out that there are other issues with the organization. The Bills are hardly immune from them either. Yeah, with all that offensive talent at WR and RB, Flacco should be killing it in Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Paying average QB's stupid money is a good way to screw up your franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 They got caught. Flacco went on a tear the year they won the SB, and they were forced to pay him. I'd take him here in a nanosecond Paying average QB's stupid money is a good way to screw up your franchise. Playoff flacco is the opposite of average. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Paying average QB's stupid money is a good way to screw up your franchise. Especially when you then trade away said quarterback's favorite target (Boldin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Who wouldn't trade Taylor for Flacco right now? Flacco to Watkins seems like a league changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 2, 2016 Author Share Posted July 2, 2016 Especially when you then trade away said quarterback's favorite target (Boldin).for a 6th rd pickWho wouldn't trade Taylor for Flacco right now? Flacco to Watkins seems like a league changer.Football Outsiders did a film study on him, good readhttp://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2016/film-room-joe-flacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Played the eventual SB champion Pats really tough only a year ago in the playoffs. Not sure one year where the starting QB tears his ACL makes them an "afterthought." Did this author think the Colts were an "afterthought" when Peyton's neck exploded? Edited July 2, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I'd take him here in a nanosecond Playoff flacco is the opposite of average. Try again. LOL. Flacco is average at best. What a joke. You try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Who wouldn't trade Taylor for Flacco right now? Flacco to Watkins seems like a league changer.Trade the future for the past? Who wouldn't do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 This is overblown, they were 10-6 two years ago. Last season they had a record amount of injuries and many of them too key positions. They had something like 20 guys on IR and 8 of those were week 1 starters. Any team that loses its starting QB is screwed, then to lose 3 WR's, a TE, two running backs etc. http://m.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Reach-Record-Number-Of-Players-On-Injured-Reserve-In-John-Harbaugh-Era/b13d9c11-26a3-4102-abf8-ffde6a307f95 They had one bad draft in 13'. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=0325&type=team I am the first to accept that they had a lot of key injuries last year and they were still close in every game bar 1. But as for the drafts... in the 6 drafts 2010-2015 (inclusive) the Ravens spent ELEVEN of their 18 picks in the first 3 rounds on defense. From that 11 only 4 are likely to line up in the starting team when the Bills visit on opening day and only 2 of those 11 are top end starters at their positions (Jimmy Smith and CJ Mosley). Call that good drafting if you like but I call it bad and it had left them struggling for depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 The answer is simple - bad drafting. I made a post earlier in the offseason about how the great Ozzie Newsome has failed to rebuild the previously fearsome Ravens defense. They have spent so many 1st and 2nd rounders the last 5 or 6 years on defense and have had very few success stories among them. Yea I heard this a few months ago on Sirius NFL talking about how they have not been doing well in drafting which is killing them. Trade the future for the past? Who wouldn't do that? All about a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) LOL. Flacco is average at best. What a joke. You try again. Why do you insist on embarrassing yourself with football takes ? Flacco has put Brady and Manning teams to sleep in the PLAYOFFS while winning a SUPERBOWL as well, please knock it off or use google to search for facts. I'll help you though, my google machine works. It says Flacco is 10-5 in the playoffs with 25tds and 10ints. 10 playoff wins. 10 more than any bills qb on the roster. Poof be gone Raven. He's average because he didn't win a Super Bowl with Kamar Aiken as his #1 and a 4th string Rb this season, I got it. Trade the future for the past? Who wouldn't do that?"Future" "Past" Lol X 2 Edited July 2, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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