Hazed and Amuzed Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) 2016 NFL Draft: Scooby Wright boosts numbers at Arizona pro day as stated earlier in this thread I'm a huge fan of Weight as well. If we could trade down and pick up an extra 2nd and somehow grab Cravens, an OT and Wright with our first 3 picks along with a NT later in the draft like Reader, Id be pretty happy. Edited March 25, 2016 by Hazed and Amuzed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) Decent piece on Josh Perry by Nicholas McGee on Draft Breakdown - http://draftbreakdown.com/the-frustrating-case-of-ohio-state-lb-joshua-perry/ At least it's not just me that thinks he's deficient in areas he can't afford to be. Edited March 25, 2016 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Love Cravens as a Will in a 3-4...in fact I think that's probably his best fit in the pros. He's got enough size and speed to match against TEs, and his ball skills seem to be getting better. He acquits himself nicely in the run game for a guy that doesn't crest 220 lbs. I think 49 is a great spot to pick him if you're the Bills, but I also think that the rise of players like Mark Barron, Kwon Alexander, and Deone Bucannon will probably push him into the 30-40 range. Indeed...they also spoke with him at the Collegiate Bowl back in January. Really hope there's some interest there. cravens is coming in for a visit so they are definitely interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 @AaronWilson_NFL UH linebacker Elandon Roberts boosts stock at Pro Day http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/UH-linebacker-Elandon-Roberts-boosts-stock-at-Pro-7040273.php Among the NFL teams Roberts says he has spoken with and have shown interest in him: the Arizona Cardinals, San Diego Chargers, Green Bay Packers, Los Angeles Rams, Oakland Raiders, Buffalo Bills, Baltimore Ravens and New York Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 cravens is coming in for a visit so they are definitely interested. I might be way off-base here, but I think this is a big projection to think he can play 3-4 OLB in the NFL at between 215-225lbs. Unless they are planning to move him back to safety, I don't know what the Bills would do with him. Maybe he can play OLB in a 4-3. Aaron Maybin was considerably taller and probably as athletic, but he couldn't carry the necessary weight. I have concerns that Cravens won't be able to, either (at several inches shorter than Maybin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) I might be way off-base here, but I think this is a big projection to think he can play 3-4 OLB in the NFL at between 215-225lbs. Unless they are planning to move him back to safety, I don't know what the Bills would do with him. Maybe he can play OLB in a 4-3. Aaron Maybin was considerably taller and probably as athletic, but he couldn't carry the necessary weight. I have concerns that Cravens won't be able to, either (at several inches shorter than Maybin). nickel 3-4 ILB Edited March 26, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 nickel 3-4 ILB at 215-225? That is quite outside the prototype. Doesn't mean he can't succeed, but where does the inside run D come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 at 215-225? That is quite outside the prototype. Doesn't mean he can't succeed, but where does the inside run D come from?hes of the newer prototype of hybrid LB/safety. He has the ability to match up against the increasing percentage of sub-packages that offenses are running now. Regardless of size he can fight off blocks (vs just run past them). He compares to Deon Buchanan of Arizons as an example. Denver often uses TJ Ward as a safety/LB hybrid in a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 hes of the newer prototype of hybrid LB/safety. He has the ability to match up against the increasing percentage of sub-packages that offenses are running now. Regardless of size he can fight off blocks (vs just run past them). He compares to Deon Buchanan of Arizons as an example. Denver often uses TJ Ward as a safety/LB hybrid in a 3-4.Arizona (where Buchannon plays) has a 260 lb OLB on one side and a 270+ OLB on the other. I think you have to have some size on the field or teams will run you over on the ground. I am not saying that there isn't a fit in the NFL for Cravens, but if you have him playing ILB, you ought to have some othenBIG LBs. The Cards are playing 5 DL-sized guys on D and also have a HUGE 219lb CB in Patrick Peterson on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Arizona (where Buchannon plays) has a 260 lb OLB on one side and a 270+ OLB on the other. I think you have to have some size on the field or teams will run you over on the ground. I am not saying that there isn't a fit in the NFL for Cravens, but if you have him playing ILB, you ought to have some othenBIG LBs. The Cards are playing 5 DL-sized guys on D and also have a HUGE 219lb CB in Patrick Peterson on the field. im not sure if it has to mirror exactly what they do, it is just one player comparison. if the DL features three quality run-stuffing DL and a good LB roaming the middle you can get away with having fewer players in run support and bring in more players to blitz or play coverage. Since we don't know yet exactly what the front 7 will look like in 2016 its hard to say where a player like Cravens fits but he's certainly a big time playmaker. Could potentially match up with Gronk and all the good TEs who we will face this year - Eifert, Ladarius green, Jimmy Graham, Barnidge (yes Barnidge is a stud), every team has one now. Edited March 26, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Thats a really good day, any word on cone/shuttle/position drill results? Update: Brandt had Elandon Roberts at 4.26 in the short shuttle and 7.23 in the 3-cone. Those marks would have put him 6th and 14th among LBs at the Combine, respectively. Solid, solid numbers. Apparently he also did defensive back drills at his workout in an effort to show scouts that he can indeed make his mark in coverage. Gil still has him rated as an UDFA, but I think he's a day 3 pick for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Lee visiting: https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/714600092322308096 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Lee visiting: https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/714600092322308096 I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 @alexmarvez Ohio State LB Darron Lee says he's weighing 236-238 pounds & still feels he can get stronger in upper-body w/out losing speed @SiriusXMNFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Biggest remaining roster hole for all 32 NFL teams Buffalo BillsLinebacker It's not even close. After spending to retain left tackle Cordy Glenn and guard Richie Incognito, the Bills didn't have the cap space left to re-sign linebacker Nigel Bradham. Not only do the Bills need to find a replacement for Bradham, but coach Rex Ryan said last week that he needs middle linebacker Preston Brown to "step up" this season. Ryan's defenses have been successful over the years because of linebackers such as Ray Lewis, Bart Scott and David Harris; the Bills don't have anyone like that on their roster. -- Mike Rodak http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x160330/biggest-remaining-roster-hole-all-32-nfl-teams-free-agency-2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 @MarkEckel08 2016 NFL Draft: Who are the best linebackers? https://t.co/sc6CQLEuYH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Biggest remaining roster hole for all 32 NFL teams Buffalo Bills Linebacker It's not even close. After spending to retain left tackle Cordy Glenn and guard Richie Incognito, the Bills didn't have the cap space left to re-sign linebacker Nigel Bradham. Not only do the Bills need to find a replacement for Bradham, but coach Rex Ryan said last week that he needs middle linebacker Preston Brown to "step up" this season. Ryan's defenses have been successful over the years because of linebackers such as Ray Lewis, Bart Scott and David Harris; the Bills don't have anyone like that on their roster. -- Mike Rodak http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x160330/biggest-remaining-roster-hole-all-32-nfl-teams-free-agency-2016 Reggie Ragland becomes that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 hes of the newer prototype of hybrid LB/safety. He has the ability to match up against the increasing percentage of sub-packages that offenses are running now. Regardless of size he can fight off blocks (vs just run past them). He compares to Deon Buchanan of Arizons as an example. Denver often uses TJ Ward as a safety/LB hybrid in a 3-4. Are we signing up for the next Bryan Scott? No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 SiriusXM NFL Radio @SiriusXMNFL LB @ReggieRagland: More upcoming visits I have include the #Ravens, #Jaguars, #Vikings, #Rams, and the #Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 SiriusXM NFL Radio @SiriusXMNFL LB @ReggieRagland: More upcoming visits I have include the #Ravens, #Jaguars, #Vikings, #Rams, and the #Bills. I don't want Ragland in the first. This is not the 1980's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I don't want Ragland in the first. This is not the 1980's He's more versatile than people are giving him credit for. In Rex's defense, he can play the middle in both 3-4 and 4-3 and push Brown to the weak side. That's a great scenario for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 He's more versatile than people are giving him credit for. In Rex's defense, he can play the middle in both 3-4 and 4-3 and push Brown to the weak side. That's a great scenario for us. Can he cover? His 40 time was not that impressive. I want athletes at LB. The 3-4 is all about athletic, attacking LBers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Can he cover? His 40 time was not that impressive. I want athletes at LB. The 3-4 is all about athletic, attacking LBers With his background in basketball, he has great footwork. Not the fastest guy, but he has good technique. Very little wasted motion when he's keeping up with a TE or slot receiver. I'm fine with him covering tight ends. Would I rather have him blowing up runs and spying QBs/RBs all game? Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Bills were at Yannick Ngakoue's pro day today. Really good player IMO. Would be good fit as OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Bills were at Yannick Ngakoue's pro day today. Really good player IMO. Would be good fit as OLB. Yes to Ngakoue on day 3. He's raw in his pass rush skill set, but he's got great explosion traits and a very strong motor. Between he and Matt Judon, I'm hoping one of them ends up going to Buffalo in the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 @realfootballtv #NFLDraft | "I see 14 LBs going in the first 3 rds": M.Jack J.Smith R.Ragland T.Matakevich J.Schobert D.Lee More: http://bit.ly/2016-NFL-Draft-LBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 @RapSheet At #NotreDame Pro Day, LB Jaylon Smith lifted for scouts. Obviously, he's limited in what he can do. Combine medical recheck will be telling @ChrisBrownBills Chris Brown Retweeted Ian Rapoport 24 reps for Smith, OT Ronnie Stanley 24 as well per @APGroover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 @TyDunne New at the BN Blog: Ohio State LB Darron Lee visiting #Bills tonight and Friday, source says. Why he's a good fit: https://t.co/RJZSKHdq7q :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) @TyDunne New at the BN Blog: Ohio State LB Darron Lee visiting #Bills tonight and Friday, source says. Why he's a good fit: https://t.co/RJZSKHdq7q :thumbsup: If he is still there at 19 i think it would be hard to say no. Edited March 31, 2016 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 @DraftDiamonds #Bills are hosting Florida LB Antonio Morrison for a pre-draft visit. SMARTEST MOVE EVER. THIS KID IS A SUPERSTAR in the MAKING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 @RapSheet At #NotreDame Pro Day, LB Jaylon Smith lifted for scouts. Obviously, he's limited in what he can do. Combine medical recheck will be telling @ChrisBrownBills Chris Brown Retweeted Ian Rapoport 24 reps for Smith, OT Ronnie Stanley 24 as well per @APGroover I would use my second round pick (49) on Jaylon Smith. doubt he's still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 @DraftDiamonds #Bills are hosting Florida LB Antonio Morrison for a pre-draft visit. SMARTEST MOVE EVER. THIS KID IS A SUPERSTAR in the MAKING And people think Reggie Ragland is a phone booth LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 And people think Reggie Ragland is a phone booth LB? Seriously Morrison is Spikes-like in his 2-down projection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Seriously Morrison is Spikes-like in his 2-down projection He's immense fun to watch because he plays like his hair is on fire. Just way too limited. His off-field resume is even better. Punched a bouncer after giving him the 'Don't you know who I am? I AM ANTONIO!!' speech. Arrested for barking at a police dog, resisting arrest in the process. Has a tattoo that says 'Don't trust me'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 And people think Reggie Ragland is a phone booth LB? The difference though is you are using a 1st on Ragland vs. a late round pick on Morrison. They can justify a late round pick on a run stuffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 The difference though is you are using a 1st on Ragland vs. a late round pick on Morrison. They can justify a late round pick on a run stuffer. It's pretty obvious that anyone with a 1st round grade on Ragland doesn't see him solely as a run stuffer. If Ragland is limited, Morrison has no place in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) It's pretty obvious that anyone with a 1st round grade on Ragland doesn't see him solely as a run stuffer. If Ragland is limited, Morrison has no place in the NFL. I don't disagree. It's like comparing Goff to Brandon Allen though. Goff should be a better prospect. He's going to go 5 rounds earlier. Ragland is not limited compared to Morrison but he is when compared to other 1st rounders IMO. Edited April 1, 2016 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I don't disagree. It's like comparing Goff to Brandon Allen though. Goff should be a better prospect. He's going to go 5 rounds earlier. Ragland is not limited compared to Morrison but he is when compared to other 1st rounders IMO. The big toss-up is Ragland vs Lee with this class. Ragland is the smarter, cleaner technical player. Lee is the athlete. The way I look at them, there's only one clear cut 1st round pick and it's not Lee. Potential means that they have to figure it out still. I know what Reggie is and I'm comfortable with him playing the majority of snaps. I think there's a mass disconnect between what linebackers are asked to do and what people think they're asked to do. It's like with Paul Dawson last year. He ran slow as **** at the Combine but he's still smarter than 19-20 guys on the field at any given point. Those smarts give him the headstart and it's the same with Ragland. Lee runs 4.47, Ragland runs 4.72. If Reggie sees the play develop 0.25 seconds faster than Lee, where's the difference in 'play speed'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Good article on Darron Lee as the ideal modern era LB (need to cut and paste into browser since BR) http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2626093-ohio-states-darron-lee-is-ideal-modern-era-linebacker?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-des-art-top-438?is_shared=true Edited April 1, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 If he is still there at 19 i think it would be hard to say no. He's the guy that I want at 19. Been settled on him for some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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