CommonCents Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Everything goes through pegula. so if they pulls this type of shenanigan in the first round without a trade down, ya gotta question the whole groop on the yacht ! I hope we don't have too. This draft aligns well with some of our needs. I hope they play this one straight and do what makes sense. TT offers a fairly certain floor at QB don't make a panic move for a total project in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I hope we don't have too. This draft aligns well with some of our needs. I hope they play this one straight and do what makes sense. TT offers a fairly certain floor at QB don't make a panic move for a total project in round 1. The logical move is to find a project in later rounds. if Whaley is in heat for Lynch early we have a problem. Either TT inspires little confidence or Whaley is off the deep end and full of himself trying to swing for some imaginary fence. This draft needs to refill the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 @AroundTheNFL The NFL has a problem when it comes to developing QBs drafted in mid rounds, writes @kpatra http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000654186/article/the-nfl-has-a-quarterback-development-problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'm pretty sure Roman can take Prescott/ Boykin/Brisett/Hogan and make him into the QB he wants him to be. He runs a very QB-friendly system, so his priority would be to get a guy with specific intangibles between the 2ND - 5th rounds. That being said, I love Tyrod and hope he's here long-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'm pretty sure Roman can take Prescott/ Boykin/Brisett/Hogan and make him into the QB he wants him to be. He runs a very QB-friendly system, so his priority would be to get a guy with specific intangibles between the 2ND - 5th rounds. That being said, I love Tyrod and hope he's here long-term. Why I want Boykin. He's like Tyrod in many respects. Ballsy when it comes to taking deep shots, would trust Sammy like he does with Josh Doctson. Bills have a unique opportunity they've not had in a decade or so, they have a firmly entrenched, adequate starting QB to groom someone behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 This is scary: Kevin @KevinMassare 1h1 hour ago I don't care what anyone says, I think Paxton Lynch is top of our draft board at 19/trade back. Like him or not, Ole Road Sodas has had solid info in the past...I'll be very, very worried if Lynch is the pick. And this regarding Whaley's statement that Tyrod is the starter: Kevin @KevinMassare 1h1 hour ago Kevin Retweeted Adam Benigni AKA - So when we take a 1st round QB, don't freak out. yep , Connor Cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Interesting note on Rotoworld on everyone's favourite midget, Vernon Adams: "Oregon QB Vernon Adams told Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle that he has not had a pre-draft visit or private workout with an NFL team during the draft process. Adams did attend the Rams' local pro day, but that does not count in this scenario" Source of the report - https://twitter.com/Eric_Branch/status/722996140900130816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure Roman can take Prescott/ Boykin/Brisett/Hogan and make him into the QB he wants him to be. He runs a very QB-friendly system, so his priority would be to get a guy with specific intangibles between the 2ND - 5th rounds. That being said, I love Tyrod and hope he's here long-term. You know, to me Hackenburg is the hidden gem. I've watched plenty of his clips and have noticed that most of his incompletions come off of bad foot work, bad O-line, and receiver drops. To my point, whenever he throws on the run he is money. This happens because as he throws his front foot is where it needs to be. So, if when behind the pocket he utilizes precise footwork and throws off of the correct foot (step and throw) then he will have much more success, barring receiver drops and a bad O line. Edited April 21, 2016 by JTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Christian Hackenberg denies blaming James Franklin to NFL teams Christian Hackenberg says he didn't blame James Franklin for his struggles at Penn State. @AllbrightNFL @BobMcGinn My 32nd NFL draft series begins with stunning about-face at top of QB class ... https://t.co/p3O7uKICMI @TyDunne Tyler Dunne Retweeted Bob McGinn Bob's series has begun at the JS. Mandatory pre-draft reading for all. Edited April 21, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 @PatKirwanCBS Measuring accuracy of the best of the rest of the QB Class of 2016: http://bit.ly/1WHLM4I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 You know, to me Hackenburg is the hidden gem. I've watched plenty of his clips and have noticed that most of his incompletions come off of bad foot work, bad O-line, and receiver drops. To my point, whenever he throws on the run he is money. This happens because as he throws his front foot is where it needs to be. So, if when behind the pocket he utilizes precise footwork and throws off of the correct foot (step and throw) then he will have much more success, barring receiver drops and a bad O line. I am starting to come around to that assessment. However, my track record predicting pro success at qb is not generally good. Also, I have some deja vu with the EJ draft year. I looked at all the qbs and finally decided EJ was the one most worth a shot, though I had seen him make many bad, inaccurate throws. The difference, perhaps, is that Hackenberg really did play under extreme duress and without great playmakers the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 @AllbrightNFL QB Spreadsheet will remain pinned for duration of draft season. My work 2008-2016: https://t.co/G3AJetDZ2s Some other notes to dump here: Scouts compared Cal QB Jared Goff to Sam Bradford as a player-prospect, with Geno Smith's body type. Wentz got comparisons that ranged from Bortles to Roethlisberger and one comparison each of Jason Campbell and Zac Dysert. Christian Hackenberg was most commonly compared to Derek Anderson and Sean Mannion. Connor Cook to Kyle Orton. None of the 14 scouts surveyed thought Vernon Adams would get drafted, though each privately intimated they'd "take a late/camp shot on him" Popular Day 3 "sleeper" QBs among those surveyed were Brandon Allen and Nate Sudfield Dak Prescott's most popular comparison was Alex Smith, some threw the "Tebow with a better arm" out there as well. Missed one: Paxton Lynch was compared to Brock Osweiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 @AllbrightNFL QB Spreadsheet will remain pinned for duration of draft season. My work 2008-2016: https://t.co/G3AJetDZ2s None of those comparisons, with the exception of Wentz to Roethlisberger, are anything designed to promote optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 None of those comparisons, with the exception of Wentz to Roethlisberger, are anything designed to promote optimism. I'll give you mine: Goff - Matt Ryan Wentz - Flacco (though more athletic) Lynch - Ryan Leaf Cook - Patrick Ramsay Prescott- Tebow Cardale Jones - Daunte Culpepper For later guys, Allen has the look of a Kirk Cousins, and Doughty is physically/athletically very similar to Brady--he's also got the quick release. Doesn't mean he's got Brady's accuracy or head for the game, so please don't overreact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I'll give you mine: Goff - Matt Ryan Wentz - Flacco (though more athletic) Lynch - Ryan Leaf Cook - Patrick Ramsay Prescott- Tebow Cardale Jones - Daunte Culpepper For later guys, Allen has the look of a Kirk Cousins, and Doughty is physically/athletically very similar to Brady--he's also got the quick release. Doesn't mean he's got Brady's accuracy or head for the game, so please don't overreact Yours are more interesting. Any comparison for Hackenberg? Is the Lynch -- Leaf comparison rooted in personality and maturity or athletic ability? Any idea what round Doughty is slotted to be drafted? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Yours are more interesting. Any comparison for Hackenberg? Is the Lynch -- Leaf comparison rooted in personality and maturity or athletic ability? Any idea what round Doughty is slotted to be drafted? Thanks. I'll give you Brian Brohm for Hackenberg These are all just physical/athletic comparisons...some are more researched than others. I've got Doughty grades as a 4th/5th, but I've seen more than one analyst that has him as a fringe UDFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I know there's not a lot of love for him on this board but I think Whaley tipped his hand a bit when he mentioned this guy as being most pro-ready. I will say from watching all his games against Oregon, he was the one Pac12 QB that gave their defense fits every year, whether he had a great running back or not. I think he has the "it" factor and someone will get a long term starter with this choice. I'd probably be ok with Prescott or Jones or a couple others based on pure talent and taking a long shot on development if we were picking 4th round or later, but if I were picking a QB with the most starter potential outside of the top 3, this would be the guy. Big hands, decent runner, sees the field (a characteristic I hold in as high a regard as arm strength and accuracy). I like the comparison to Philip Rivers. http://www.profootballweekly.com/draft/2016/prospects/kevin-hogan/ " three-year starter for a sophisticated pro-style offense. He has good size and can make all the throws that are needed to succeed in the NFL. Is a good decision maker and a strong leader. Has shown improvement every year and now is among the better senior quarterbacks in the coming NFL Draft. Has played a lot of football for Stanford and it shows. While he won't be ready to step in and play as a rookie, I see an eventual NFL starter for a winning NFL team. It would not surprise me if he went as high as the second round. This is the type of player who succeeds in the NFL because he has top intangibles." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 @PatKirwanCBS Measuring accuracy of the best of the rest of the QB Class of 2016: http://bit.ly/1WHLM4I Dak Prescott does very well statistically in this comparison. Here he is with Jon Gruden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLBUvg4OMNs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 The logical move is to find a project in later rounds. if Whaley is in heat for Lynch early we have a problem. Either TT inspires little confidence or Whaley is off the deep end and full of himself trying to swing for some imaginary fence. This draft needs to refill the roster Can you have both? Here's my simulation with all of our Analysts' Grabs also included for fairness: 1 19 Buffalo Paxton Lynch QB Memphis 2 49 Buffalo Kenny Clark DT34 UCLA 3 80 Buffalo Kyler Fackrell OLB34 Utah State 4 117 Buffalo Pearce Slater RT San Diego St 4 139 Buffalo T.J. Green FS Clemson 5 156 Buffalo Mehdi Abdesmad DE34 Boston College 6 192 Buffalo Kevin Byard SS Middle Tennessee 6 218 Buffalo James Burgess ILB Louisville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Sal said this morning he thinks the Bills will draft 2 QBs. One in the 1st 3 rounds and one late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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