B-Man Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) As per TYTT's suggestion. Liberals Should Knock Off the Mockery Over Calls to Limit Syrian Refugees By Kevin Drum http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2015/11/liberals-should-knock-mockery-over-calls-limit-syrian-refugees (Mother Jones, of all places) FTA: Here's the thing: to the average person, it seems perfectly reasonable to be suspicious of admitting Syrian refugees to the country. We know that ISIS would like to attack the US. We know that ISIS probably has the wherewithal to infiltrate a few of its people into the flood of refugees. And most voters have no idea how easy it is to get past US screening. They probably figure it's pretty easy . So it doesn't seem xenophobic or crazy to call for an end to accepting Syrian refugees. It seems like simple common sense. After all, things changed after Paris. Mocking Republicans over this—as liberals spent much of yesterday doing on my Twitter stream—seems absurdly out of touch to a lot of people. Not just wingnut tea partiers, either, but plenty of ordinary centrists too. It makes them wonder if Democrats seriously see no problem here? Do they care at all about national security? Are they really that detached from reality? Overlooked point on public opinion with refugees: when Americans routinely see the administration ignore the law, they become skeptical. Ron FournierVerified account @ron_fournier 5h5 hours ago Odd: Republicans don't trust US government to screen Syrian refugees, but do trust US government to deploy grounds troops in Syria. LOL..............he suggests critics see little daylight between the DOD and the people at State. Government is government . Edited November 17, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 My response at the border entrance: "Go be a Terrorist somewhere else" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) VETTED.......... WhiteHousePressCorps@whpresscorps 13h13 hours ago WhiteHousePressCorps Retweeted ian bremmer U.S. Refugee Chief Didn’t Know Boston Bombers Were Refugees http://bit.ly/1WBBktX at the risk of awaking JTSP's lunacy................Obama did ask for critics to speak out, so McCain did Hate the opposition to refugees?as @reihan points out there are more than two sides to the issue http://slate.me/1j5Ca2Z . Edited November 17, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Mocking Republicans over this—as liberals spent much of yesterday doing on my Twitter stream—seems absurdly out of touch to a lot of people. Not just wingnut tea partiers, either, but plenty of ordinary centrists too. It makes them wonder if Democrats seriously see no problem here? Do they care at all about national security? Are they really that detached from reality? They are not detached from reality with respect to what may happen. They see other people as abstractions, not people. With 300 million potential victims of terrorists, they figure the odds one will be themselves, or someone they love are low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 B. O. doesn't care for America or Americans. He thinks we're too pampered and greedy wrt the rest of the world - especially the 3rd world countries and most especially to the Islam-dominated countries. He regularly wipes his azz with our Constitution, and loses no opportunity to pontificate and lecture about how bad America is in his eyes. He's a leader of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Problem is, once they are here, how do we get rid of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Problem is, once they are here, how do we get rid of them? We'll have to BECOME them. That's the plan. Get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 We'll have to BECOME them. That's the plan. Get used to it. Hell with that. TO HELL WITH THAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Let's give some of the refugees jobs in the White House and Capitol building, and then see how quickly stances change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Let the refugees move next door to those who want them here. Then you'll see their tunes change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 # of D.C. accepted refugees last month...ZERO Look, ISIS wants you to hate Muslims: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/17/isis-wants-you-to-hate-muslims/?tid=pm_business_pop_b … So...........According to WaPo, one snub and all Muslims will become barbaric terrorists. If that's not racism, nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Let's give some of the refugees jobs in the White House and Capitol building, and then see how quickly stances change. Let the refugees move next door to those who want them here. Then you'll see their tunes change. Get your own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Get your own opinion. That's always been my opinion. I said the same about the illegals being shipped all over the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 One has to wonder...if one of these refugees ends up a terrorist, and said terrorist manages to incinerate the first family, would his mouthbreathing lordship change his accepting tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Pockets of Resistance to the Refugee Industry FTA: What’s driven much of this local resentment has not been security concerns so much as cost ones –concerns that apply to all refugees, not merely those from Syria or even the Islamic world generally. The paid agents of the State Department – the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (52 percent taxpayer-funded), Church World Service (57 percent taxpayer-funded), World Relief (70 percent taxpayer-funded), Lutheran Immigrant and Refugee Services (92 percent taxpayer-funded), and others – decide on their own, in secret, where they will send the refugees they’re paid to “sponsor,” whether the local schools and other institutions can handle them or not. I use scare quotes because sponsoring a refugee does not mean what you think it does – it consists of little more than signing the refugees up for welfare and then moving on to the next revenue-generating warm body (the agencies are paid by the head). For states and localities, refugee resettlement can be a huge unfunded mandate. This heavy use of state and local welfare and other services, combined with the imperious attitude of the State Department and its minions, has generated resistance across the country, from Idaho to South Carolina and many places in between. They’ve gotten nowhere in pointing to the law’s all-but-meaningless requirement for consultation with state and local governments. Tennessee even passed a law in 2011 to try to force the State Department to consult with local communities – to little effect. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Edited November 17, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Hell with that. TO HELL WITH THAT. Do you think they are going to come here and adopt our values? Hell no. They are going to demand we accomodate them and our PC politicians will all trip over each other to be the first in line to do so. If you have a problem, then your a racist. And on and on goes the narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 My response at the border entrance: "Go be a Terrorist somewhere else" They are escaping terrorism. That is totally blaming the victim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 One has to wonder...if one of these refugees ends up a terrorist, and said terrorist manages to incinerate the first family, would his mouthbreathing lordship change his accepting tune? He would blame Bush. No seriously he would blame the conservatives for pushing them to violence and allowing them access to guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Democrats suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 They are escaping terrorism. That is totally blaming the victim why don't you host some of these 25 yr old male refugees in your parents basement. That's the compassionate thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 They are escaping terrorism. That is totally blaming the victim Escape elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 # of D.C. accepted refugees last month...ZERO So...........According to WaPo, one snub and all Muslims will become barbaric terrorists. If that's not racism, nothing is. There's nowhere to put refugees in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 There's nowhere to put refugees in DC. White house has spare rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 White house has spare rooms. Really? You couldn't go "Georgetown University has safe zones?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 There's nowhere to put refugees in DC. RFK ?...................DC United won't mind. Of course you know I'm joking around Tom (some of our simpler posters may not) The point of the map was to show where the refugee industry is utilizing (SEE POST #15) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 RFK ?...................DC United won't mind. Of course you know I'm joking around Tom (some of our simpler posters may not) The point of the map was to show where the refugee industry is utilizing (SEE POST #15) Then it's a weak point. In as much as there's a "refugee industry," you really think DC lobbyists and corporations aren't heavily involved? Don't follow the refugees, follow the money - the only reasons people will take either extremist view of "Let all the poor, unwashed, tortured souls in" or "Keep all the sand !@#$s away" is revenue or votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Then it's a weak point. In as much as there's a "refugee industry," you really think DC lobbyists and corporations aren't heavily involved? Don't follow the refugees, follow the money - the only reasons people will take either extremist view of "Let all the poor, unwashed, tortured souls in" or "Keep all the sand !@#$s away" is revenue or votes. Typically if there is an issue that doesn't appear to be logical or make sense, look to see who gains the most (money,power,votes) as Tom said above as guidance to try and understand the underlying forces that affect an issue. Tom bauerle frequently makes this point as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 They are escaping terrorism. That is totally blaming the victim Why don't they stick around take up the fight for their country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 My response at the border entrance: "Go be a Terrorist somewhere else" Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 WHITE HOUSE WON'T TELL GOVS WHERE SENDING REFUGEES... Resettlement group admits: We don't track them... Obama’s inaction plants doubt he can keep America safe by Michael Goodwin Original Article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Krauthammer’s Take: Let in Women, Children, and Refugees over 50 Charles Krauthammer says that while he doesn’t support Republican governors who proclaim Syrian refugees are unwelcome, ”they deserve some respect, a lot more than the president gave with his preening address he gave yesterday.” “Remember, he’s the one that decided against the begging, the advice, recommendations of all of his top advisers, to do nothing at the beginning of the Syrian civil war,” Krauthammer said on Tuesday’s Special Report. “He could have established easily, a safe zone. The way that we did for over a decade in Kurdistan, in Iraq. It wouldn’t have cost boots on the ground. ” “And he decided, because he didn’t want to sully his reputation as a man who ends war and doesn’t start them, he denied them,” Krauthammer continued. ”So now he’s attacking people who are worried about the danger to the very people Obama abandoned. And forced into refugee status.” Krauthammer floated his own proposal: Given the new circumstances, you allow the women and the children and the men over 50. As you did in the past. But you’re extra-careful, extra scrutiny for the men of fighting age, the ones who do this stuff. And for each of them, you require a positive vetting, not just the absence of a negative one.Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Krauthammer’s Take: Let in Women, Children, and Refugees over 50 Charles Krauthammer says that while he doesn’t support Republican governors who proclaim Syrian refugees are unwelcome, ”they deserve some respect, a lot more than the president gave with his preening address he gave yesterday.” “Remember, he’s the one that decided against the begging, the advice, recommendations of all of his top advisers, to do nothing at the beginning of the Syrian civil war,” Krauthammer said on Tuesday’s Special Report. “He could have established easily, a safe zone. The way that we did for over a decade in Kurdistan, in Iraq. It wouldn’t have cost boots on the ground. ” “And he decided, because he didn’t want to sully his reputation as a man who ends war and doesn’t start them, he denied them,” Krauthammer continued. ”So now he’s attacking people who are worried about the danger to the very people Obama abandoned. And forced into refugee status.” Krauthammer floated his own proposal: Given the new circumstances, you allow the women and the children and the men over 50. As you did in the past. But you’re extra-careful, extra scrutiny for the men of fighting age, the ones who do this stuff. And for each of them, you require a positive vetting, not just the absence of a negative one. Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner Did he completely miss where at least two of the suicide bombers in Paris were women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Did he completely miss where at least two of the suicide bombers in Paris were women? I doubt that sir, but the plan is still preferable to the administrations'. Al-Qaida magazine cites weakness of Buffalo Niagara region. http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/politics/al-qaida-magazine-cites-weakness-of-buffalo-niagara-region-20140320 … The best example of the horrific consequences of not vetting someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 What happens, when/if refugees are let in who ultimately commit acts of violence and/or terrorism? What happens then? Who is held accountable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 What happens, when/if refugees are let in who ultimately commit acts of violence and/or terrorism? What happens then? Who is held accountable? Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 What happens, when/if refugees are let in who ultimately commit acts of violence and/or terrorism? What happens then? Who is held accountable? Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Republicans. Republicans. And those damned kids in the van and the pesky dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It's the perfect liberal plan. They flood the country with refugees which allows them to call Republicans racist. When the terrorists start shooting, they can pass laws to ban guns. it's a win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) What happens, when/if refugees are let in who ultimately commit acts of violence and/or terrorism? Free college, free healthcare, free housing and free phone for each of them. The left will turn them into society-draining government-dependent progressive slugs in no time, and once they're playing Candy Crush and watching cat videos, they'll have no time to blow things up. America. Winning. Leftist style. Edited November 18, 2015 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 No need to worry about national security...............the administration is on it. White House Launches #REFUGEESWELCOME Hashtag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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