B-Man Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Why? Isn't that the heart of the issues in this thread? Don't bother. Gator does not understand issues, he feels them. and he attacks whoever hurts his feelings. What do you call it when the KKK goes after Mizzou students? Dem on Dem violence "Free speech is a white supremacist dodge" is an absolutely classic example of writing for the already convinced instead of changing minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Maybe the Mizzou students should go back and revisit this campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 I'm no Obama guy, but he has sorta touched on this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Should have been like me and joined the military. I LOVED the GI Bill!! This should be a topic on its own. Start a new thread I am a vet. The loans were above and beyond my gi bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Don't bother. Gator does not understand issues, he feels them. and he attacks whoever hurts his feelings. Me? Ha ha ha, you are the one that only "understands" an issue if there is a right wing propaganda cartoon, fluff piece or insidious screed created for you to figure out what to think. Seriously, you are the worst partisan, uninformed and low information hack this board has to offer. Sure, LAbarf and 3rdthing are idiots also, but I don't know anyone that eats propaganda for breakfast, lunch and dinner like you. You need to be told what to think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Me? Ha ha ha, you are the one that only "understands" an issue if there is a right wing propaganda cartoon, fluff piece or insidious screed created for you to figure out what to think. Seriously, you are the worst partisan, uninformed and low information hack this board has to offer. Sure, LAbarf and 3rdthing are idiots also, but I don't know anyone that eats propaganda for breakfast, lunch and dinner like you. You need to be told what to think I am honored to meet your disapproval, but disappointed that I have to play second fiddle to B-Man. Telling him that he needs to be told what to think was a nice touch though. I forget, is it a Range Rover or Land Rover that you are working towards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I am honored to meet your disapproval, but disappointed that I have to play second fiddle to B-Man. Telling him that he needs to be told what to think was a nice touch though. I forget, is it a Range Rover or Land Rover that you are working towards? Are they both 4x4's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 From a Yale student http://qz.com/546403/yale-student-protests/ I just post, you decide. Not saying I agree or disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 A Plague of Racial Hoaxes on Campus - by Noah Crothman - http://bit.ly/1SmgewA The incentive to invent episodes of discrimination is basically a form of Munchausen Syndrome. Don't abet it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) From a Yale student http://qz.com/546403/yale-student-protests/ I just post, you decide. Not saying I agree or disagree You should. A President taking a handful of days to write letter is not indicative of systemic racism. This crap is so overblown and shoved under the umbrella of systemic racism. A bunch of white frat bros hold a racist party. An idiot draws a swastika a year ago. The students are (direct quote) forced to reschedule a forum (end quote). And the President writes a letter to the student body by Friday. This instant gratification crap is ridiculous. The President declined to comment on the frat party 2 days after it happened. Maybe he's waiting for confirmation, or the freaking investigation the school organized. What is his comment going to do? The day after the protest, the President wrote the letter to the student body. Is that not fast enough? Do these people of color think that racists are gonna read the letter and decide to stop being racist? This is a protest because the President didn't posture quickly enough. Who cares if it does nothing? Who cares if it's irrelevant? As long as someone responds quick. Dumb dumb dumb. Edited November 12, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/can-we-take-political-correctness-seriously-now.html# Can We Start Taking Political Correctness Seriously Now? By Jonathan Chait FTA: The upsurge of political correctness is not just greasy-kid stuff, and it’s not just a bunch of weird, unfortunate events that somehow keep happening over and over. It’s the expression of a political culture with consistent norms, and philosophical premises that happen to be incompatible with liberalism. The reason every Marxist government in the history of the world turned massively repressive is not because they all had the misfortune of being hijacked by murderous thugs. It’s that the ideology itself prioritizes class justice over individual rights and makes no allowance for legitimate disagreement. (For those inclined to defend p.c. on the grounds that racism and sexism are important, bear in mind that the forms of repression Marxist government set out to eradicate were hardly imaginary.) . . . That these activists have been able to prevail, even in the face of frequently harsh national publicity highlighting the blunt illiberalism of their methods, confirms that these incidents reflect something deeper than a series of one-off episodes. They are carrying out the ideals of a movement that regards the delegitimization of dissent as a first-order goal. People on the left need to stop evading the question of political correctness — by laughing it off as college goofs, or interrogating the motives of p.c. critics, or ignoring it — and make a decision on whether they agree with it. The impulse toward what Chait here calls delegitimization was fine for a long time when it consisted mainly of nice white liberals such as Chait screaming “racist” every time they lost an argument to a conservative. Now that it is being used to tell white men such as Chait to pipe down, it’s a problem. Strange, that. Edited November 12, 2015 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 From a Yale student http://qz.com/546403/yale-student-protests/ I just post, you decide. Not saying I agree or disagree "It saddens me that this has gotten to the point where people feel like they have to take sides. We should all strive for a future where, at the very least, people feel physically safe and confident in their own humanity. Let’s focus on the goals we share, not the unproductive debates that divide us" No, sorry. I don't share the goal of intimidation and stifling of freedoms of speech and association in the name of making people feel good about themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 No, sorry. I don't share the goal of intimidation and stifling of freedoms of speech and association in the name of making people feel good about themselves. I do...as long as it's my people. Everyone else can shut the !@#$ up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I do...as long as it's my people. Everyone else can shut the !@#$ up. Well at least someone's out there representing the Pedantic Anal Orifices of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Well at least someone's out there representing the Pedantic Anal Orifices of the world You think white privilege is bad? You should see the perks the Pedantic Supercilious Anal Orifice lobby gets. But !@#$ 'em all. The meek ain't inheriting the earth while they're cowering in their safe zones fretting over trigger warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 You think white privilege is bad? You should see the perks the Pedantic Supercilious Anal Orifice lobby gets. But !@#$ 'em all. The meek ain't inheriting the earth while they're cowering in their safe zones fretting over trigger warnings. I forgot Supercilious. I sincerely apologize for my insensitivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Stop your micro aggressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I forgot Supercilious. I sincerely apologize for my insensitivity. It's clear that the only solution to your oppression is for Beerball to resign his moderator position and for SDS to increase the number of pedantic supercilious anal orifices on the board by 10% before next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mizzou-student-vp-1st-amendment-creates-hostile-and-unsafe-learning-environment/ “I personally am tired of hearing that First Amendment rights protect students when they are creating a hostile and unsafe learning environment for myself and for other students here. I think that it’s important for us to create that distinction and create a space where we can all learn from one another and start to create a place of healing rather than a place where we are experiencing a lot of hate like we have in the past.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mizzou-student-vp-1st-amendment-creates-hostile-and-unsafe-learning-environment/ I was just thinking this morning that in not too long we'll see people demanding that the Constitution come with trigger warnings. But I really thought it wouldn't be for a few years, and would involve the Second Amendment, not the First. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I was just thinking this morning that in not too long we'll see people demanding that the Constitution come with trigger warnings. But I really thought it wouldn't be for a few years, and would involve the Second Amendment, not the First. There was a recent "article" which referenced a few students who did exactly this to expose the illiberalism of faculty, and the degree of intellectual coddling that goes on at universities. Students went to their dean's and advisor's offices saying that they had been handed a copy of the Constitution on campus, stated that the document made them feel unsafe and threatened, and asked if the responding faculty could have the document shredded. They all sympathized and capitulated without questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 There was a recent "article" which referenced a few students who did exactly this to expose the illiberalism of faculty, and the degree of intellectual coddling that goes on at universities. Students went to their dean's and advisor's offices saying that they had been handed a copy of the Constitution on campus, stated that the document made them feel unsafe and threatened, and asked if the responding faculty could have the document shredded. They all sympathized and capitulated without questioning. Yes, I know, my school was one of them. But I was talking about public exclamations that get loud (if not broad) support. Not some retarded sting operation singling out junior college administrators whose job is is to enable these wilting lilies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Yes, I know, my school was one of them. But I was talking about public exclamations that get loud (if not broad) support. Not some retarded sting operation singling out junior college administrators whose job is is to enable these wilting lilies. Ah, well, in that case I'm sure you see a few in the coming months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I wonder if these fools realize that sooner or later their actions WILL spawn a right-wing fascist response to their left-wing fascism? I hope I'm not alive when it happens, because when it does, look the !@#$ out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Ah, well, in that case I'm sure you see a few in the coming months. I did just see an op-ed referring to "free speech fundamentalists" and "extremists." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I did just see an op-ed referring to "free speech fundamentalists" and "extremists." Not surprising, as 27 % of Democrats favor prosecuting people who disagree with them about climate change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 The Left is stark raving loony mad. Left to their own devices they'll create an environment of madness that's totally insulated and divorced from reality. Universities are a perfect petri dish for their experiments. My guess is you never watched The Donald & Dr. Weirdo (Ben Carson... THAT is what one of my AA friend calls him) go @ it. ?? ;-) K... Both add sides have officially gone off the rails of the crazy train. Your side longer than my illustrious side... BUT not by much. :-P Not surprising, as 27 % of Democrats favor prosecuting people who disagree with them about climate change. WAIT A SEC... I recant what I just said in the lower part of my last post... ;-) Everybody's head will explode... Ya know what... Hillary will come off as the "sane" choice... LMAO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Not surprising, as 27 % of Democrats favor prosecuting people who disagree with them about climate change. Probably the same 27% that want corporate profits made illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Oh, you can get any answer from a poll depending on how you ask it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Not surprising, as 27 % of Democrats favor prosecuting people who disagree with them about climate change. That really is Stalinist-level thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 More Yale student crybabies: When the hell did they start that annoying finger-snapping that the beatniks used to do at coffee houses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 More Yale student crybabies: When the hell did they start that annoying finger-snapping that the beatniks used to do at coffee houses? The feels. THE FEELS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Have the government take them up and it would be like a tax cuts that will increase consumer spending and accelerate economic growth Wait, so what you're saying is that tax cuts spur consumer spending which accelerates the economy? Interesting you'd come out and say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Wait, so what you're saying is that tax cuts spur consumer spending which accelerates the economy? Interesting you'd come out and say that. Yes but only the rich would benefit. They would buy more luxury items from other rich people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Oh, you can get any answer from a poll depending on how you ask it. Here's the phrasing. 2* Should the government investigate and prosecute scientists and others including major corporations who question global warming? I can't find anything leading or deceptive in that question. Very direct. Edited November 12, 2015 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I wonder if these fools realize that sooner or later their actions WILL spawn a right-wing fascist response to their left-wing fascism? I hope I'm not alive when it happens, because when it does, look the !@#$ out. I hate to say it but it's just a matter of time. These idiots keep pulling the country farther and farther to the left at some point there will be a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 More Yale student crybabies: When the hell did they start that annoying finger-snapping that the beatniks used to do at coffee houses? "This is our home..." No, it's not. It's your !@#$ing school. You know how you can tell the difference? You wouldn't pull this **** at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 "This is our home..." No, it's not. It's your !@#$ing school. You know how you can tell the difference? You wouldn't pull this **** at home. "It is not about creating an intellectual space! It is not!" At Yale? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 "It is not about creating an intellectual space! It is not!" At Yale? Really? They're effectively saying "We're at college! We need to be protected from things we don't agree with! Don't challenge us!" And they don't even see the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 They're effectively saying "We're at college! We need to be protected from things we don't agree with! Don't challenge us!" And they don't even see the irony. Well, on the upside they're effectively defeating their own argument that their tuition should be free. If what they're asking us to pay for is a home, then they can simply apply for subsidized housing through the state of their residence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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