PromoTheRobot Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Maybe I'm senile but I thought this was the season the NFL was adding a third wild card team in each conference. Did I miss something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giaimo25 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Maybe I'm senile but I thought this was the season the NFL was adding a third wild card team in each conference. Did I miss something? It was talked about, right along with adding the regular season games. Nothing has been implemented as of yet. I kinda hope we make the playoffs before that happens (and it probably will sooner or later) so we don't have the whole "couldn't make it in with only 2 WC spots" stigma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzu Bill Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 It was talked about, right along with adding the regular season games. Nothing has been implemented as of yet. I kinda hope we make the playoffs before that happens (and it probably will sooner or later) so we don't have the whole "couldn't make it in with only 2 WC spots" stigma. Â Â I'm in a similar camp. I think adding more spots devalues making the playoffs. And allows teams who haven't earned it all season to make a superbowl run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm in a similar camp. I think adding more spots devalues making the playoffs. And allows teams who haven't earned it all season to make a superbowl run Kinda like division winners who get in with a record of 7-9... Â It should just be top 6 records with tie-breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Kinda like division winners who get in with a record of 7-9... Â It should just be top 6 records with tie-breakers. While that would assure the BEST teams advance, I don't see it ever happening as it would completely devalue the entire Division 'thing'. I think the only way that would come to pass is if the League did do away with Divisions altogether and all teams play a schedule of just League teams or 10 Conference, 6 out of Conference games -something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) While that would assure the BEST teams advance, I don't see it ever happening as it would completely devalue the entire Division 'thing'. I think the only way that would come to pass is if the League did do away with Divisions altogether and all teams play a schedule of just League teams or 10 Conference, 6 out of Conference games -something along those lines.Or just split the league and do what they used to do in baseball. Only play in your conference until the Superbowl. Play each team once and then go by overall record. Would need to add two more teams though for 16 games total. Edited November 10, 2015 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I'm in a similar camp. I think adding more spots devalues making the playoffs. And allows teams who haven't earned it all season to make a superbowl run  Agreed. Chasing the last nickel is going to ruin the NFL. 12 of 32 teams is plenty. I hate seeing sub .500 teams in basketball and hockey make the playoffs every year. Even baseball with 162 games has .500 teams in the hunt until the last week or two every season. I don't want to see several 6-8 teams - or, God forbid, a 6-9 team - in the hunt for a wild card spot at the end of the season.  Kinda like division winners who get in with a record of 7-9... It should just be top 6 records with tie-breakers. As much as I hate seeing that happen, it's not that common in the NFL for a division winner to be .500 or below. If winning a division doesn't matter, then the alternative is to eliminate divisions. That kills rivalries and lumps every team into two (or one big) pot. It would also make scheduling a nightmare. That'd be tragic for the game. And if you left divisions in place how ridiculous would it be to send a team that was second or third placed in their division with a 9-7 record take the playoff spot of an 8-8 division winner especially if the division winner had a tougher schedule? Edited November 10, 2015 by BarleyNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Even the wild card spot kinda feels cheap to me, sometimes... I really want to win the AFC East, and be legit contenders... not squeak in because the NFL wants more games late in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 No wild card spots are not cheap; they ensure that a team has a chance for playoffs even if they are in a strong division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 What a horrible idea. I'm sure it'll come to pass any year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Maybe I'm senile but I thought this was the season the NFL was adding a third wild card team in each conference. Did I miss something? Missed no more than usual. It's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The NFL and NFLPA still need to figure out how to split the new revenue created by the extra wildcard games before it'll happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Even the wild card spot kinda feels cheap to me, sometimes... I really want to win the AFC East, and be legit contenders... not squeak in because the NFL wants more games late in the year. So what you're saying is you never want the Bills to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The Owners have not voted it in... Yet. Even the wild card spot kinda feels cheap to me, sometimes... I really want to win the AFC East, and be legit contenders... not squeak in because the NFL wants more games late in the year. Â Yet Wildcard teams go onto win Superbowls... So you sir are the cheap one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Is it too early to lobby the NFL for a automatic wildcard game if your team has missed a division title for 20 years straight? That may work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Some people, like Dorkington, think there is some noble right way to win. People like Bill Belichick know that there is no wrong way to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 a third wild card is a participation ribbon. I want the Bills to earn it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Promo the ultimate homer doesn't even know there isn't a 3rd wildcard? I'm not too surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Promo the ultimate homer doesn't even know there isn't a 3rd wildcard? I'm not too surprised. What does one have to do with the other? If that's your attempt at a burn, your match didn't light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Even the wild card spot kinda feels cheap to me, sometimes... I really want to win the AFC East, and be legit contenders... not squeak in because the NFL wants more games late in the year. Â I see what you're saying, and I felt the same way. Until 2007. The wild-card Giants won three straight road games (Tampa Bay, Dallas, Green Bay) -- and we all know what happened in the Super Bowl against the Pats. The wild card model makes it almost impossible for that type of team to win the Super Bowl. But if a team like the Giants can beat Green Bay on the road to get to the Super Bowl -- then topple an undefeated powerhouse to win the Super Bowl -- I don't see anything cheap about it. Â I have a much bigger problem with 7-9 Seattle (2009) making the playoffs strictly because it's the best of the worst in its division. Edited November 11, 2015 by Felonious Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It's just fine the way it is right now. I really hope they do not change it because then it would become kind of cheap to get in as the third wild card. As it stands though, only 12 out of 32 make the playoffs as opposed to 16 out of 30 in the NHL and NBA so I don't think there's any shame in getting in as a wild card at this point. As far as the occasional 8-8 team that wins a division- eh whatever, I'm OK with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The other side of this is that I'd want to reward the top 2 teams in the conference with a bye as well. That makes more sense than senseless adding two more teams to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Or just split the league and do what they used to do in baseball. Only play in your conference until the Superbowl. Play each team once and then go by overall record. Would need to add two more teams though for 16 games total. That would be preferable to the existing structure, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 And the saddest part is that even if they had added the two extra spots 15 years ago, I'm pretty sure Buffalo STILL would have never made it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I don't want the extra wild card spot It's perfect how it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 There's plenty of teams that make the playoffs already. Nothing really needs to be changed at this point. 37.5% of NFL teams make the playoffs right now. That's enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) I think they will expand it to 16 teams when they add 2 new expansion teams to the league. They get their expansions, and the playoffs are not watered down as much. Edited November 11, 2015 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) additional playoff spots were never added but the talk wont go away....I would hate adding another playoff team or teams to each conference  the problem isnt the number of teams that make the playoffs its having 4 divisions of 4 teams and granting each div winner regardless of record not only a playoff berth but a playoff game at home   there are too many divisions and or guaranteed playoff berths Edited November 11, 2015 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I didn't know that they were definitely going to add 2 more teams but I'm in the same boat as those who do not want to add playoff teams. I think the set up right now is just fine and, as others have mentioned, I want the Bills to make the playoffs in this format, not simply get in because they added more teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) I didn't know that they were definitely going to add 2 more teams but I'm in the same boat as those who do not want to add playoff teams. I think the set up right now is just fine and, as others have mentioned, I want the Bills to make the playoffs in this format, not simply get in because they added more teams. Â It's not for sure yet, but I think its only a matter of time before they expand to Canada and London. Or maybe London, and another US city. Â I agree though. Making the playoffs in a watered down system just isn't the same. We need to break that stigma this year though before we are stuck in history as the longest running playoff drought before the change. Let's give it to Cleveland! Edited November 11, 2015 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Â It's not for sure yet, but I think its only a matter of time before they expand to Canada and London. Or maybe London, and another US city. Â I agree though. Making the playoffs in a watered down system just isn't the same. We need to break that stigma this year though before we are stuck in history as the longest running playoff drought before the change. Let's give it to Cleveland! They're estimating another 150 million ish from one wildcard game. They'll add it. They just have to figure out the revenue split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killshot Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 How about 3 division winners and three wild cards . this way the forth division winner is not guaranteed a spot unless it's record is in the top six . This eliminates the bad division winner with records like 7-9 to get in and reward the third wild card to a better record team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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