Simon Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 I was going to say that it's nice to see that you aren't grounded anymore, but that's a lie... That I'm not grounded? Or that it's nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 To the guy who said EJ can't throw the ball before the receiver is open. The receiver and DB weren't at the 10 yard line on the left end zone fade and the ball was already in the screen shot last game. EJ has won games on this league. He beat a good Dolphins team last year. He did it with Moron and Can't Hackett as his coaches. Dude isn't s dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 /EJ will not start game 1 of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 /EJ will not start game 1 of the season Whoa ... that's going out on a limb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Welcome back Simon! As far as your post....I didn't care for your font. I know, right? Welcome back, Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think it will be a fail if Rex starts Matt Cassel when they have Taylor and Manuel, who by his own accounts are playing very well. Everyone knows that Cassel will have to be replaced by one or the other QB at some point during the season so it's stupid to start the year off knowing you will eventually put your team through that QB change offensive upheaval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Just watch both of them stand in the pocket and throw the 20yrd out from the opposite hash and it won't take long at all to see the difference Why would Tyrod Taylor throwing a beautiful spiral that was well timed on the Receivers hands and EJ throwing a wobbly pass that was late and behind the receiver help your cause for EJ to Start Week 1? EJ throwing behind his receiver is so consistent it is mind boggling. He needs to add 5 yards to wherever he thinks a receiver is going to be if he is ever going to be a starting QB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 EJ lost his receivers last year after nearly getting several of them killed. He waits until receivers are open before he makes the throw...he's not the answer. So does Tyrod but he is not nearly as bad about it. EJ leads the WR better then any of them IMO but he doesn't do it on a consistent basis. The athleticism between Taylor and EJ is a wash, EJ has a small advantage on arm strength, EJ is bigger and stronger, Tyrod has big play ability but pocket presence is suspect; same w/manuel, Tyrod has a quicker release but its flippant Better mechanics go to EJ Agree about the WRs complaining last year, can you blame them? Cassel didn't play a down in the 2nd game, rotation or not that's a sign. He is limited and the team know what he can do. These are just my opinions, I agree with some of Simon's statement but with either guy back there its a long season regardless of defense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 EJ lost his receivers last year after nearly getting several of them killed. He waits until receivers are open before he makes the throw...he's not the answer. I watched him throw twice before his receivers were open in the Browns scrimmage. WRT OP, if Tyrod were not here I would agree about starting Manuel but Tyrod deserves his shot. Manuel's confidence still isn't quite there yet but chances are a TT injury will force him in at some point this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 First of all, welcome back! It's fantastic to see you posting. Hate to do so, but I must already respectfully disagree. I do so because I see very.....very little chance of EJ improving to a superbowl level qb. Check it out: >>>>>For the first time in ages we actually have a high character, blue chip athlete with a big arm and a world-class work ethic sitting right in our laps. He’s played less than a season’s worth of NFL football under an asshat of a coach and behind an atrocious OLine<<<<< You and I were saying the same as above about Rob Johnson, who had as many or more skills than does EJ. I just don't think this kid can get the job done. IMO he would have a slight chance if he would run the way he did in college but when he runs now he looks (again, imo), clumsy and lumbering. And as others have said, 5-7 years is a century in the NFL. Injuries, free agency losses, bad drafts and other factors can wipe out a team overnight. Look at the 49ers. In any event, it's all good. Once again I am completely thrilled to see you back!!!!! Yeah I didn't really want to open up that can off worms but since it is already open. IMO EJ= Rob Johnson (Pedigree, Physicals, Came out of Central Casting for QB) Tyrod Taylor = Flutie 2.0 (Small, Good College QB, No Respect as an actual NFL QB candidate) They're even running all those Flutie Bootlegs for Tyrod in the preseason. Maybe starting Tyrod in our first Playoff Game since Flutie was robbed of the opportunity would atone for this franchise's past sins with football gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 To the guy who said EJ can't throw the ball before the receiver is open. The receiver and DB weren't at the 10 yard line on the left end zone fade and the ball was already in the screen shot last game. EJ has won games on this league. He beat a good Dolphins team last year. He did it with Moron and Can't Hackett as his coaches. Dude isn't s dumpster fire. Exactly! The pass he threw to Robert Woods in the SD game was an attempt to throw the receiver open and Woods never got his head around. The pass he threw to Sammy Watkins in the end zone, in the Miami game was an attempt to throw the receiver open. Guess what? Both passes were incomplete. Lest the "inaccurate" label attached to EJ Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Oh great I'm going to get suspended again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 So does Tyrod but he is not nearly as bad about it. EJ leads the WR better then any of them IMO but he doesn't do it on a consistent basis. The athleticism between Taylor and EJ is a wash, EJ has a small advantage on arm strength, EJ is bigger and stronger, Tyrod has big play ability but pocket presence is suspect; same w/manuel, Tyrod has a quicker release but its flippant Better mechanics go to EJ Agree about the WRs complaining last year, can you blame them? Cassel didn't play a down in the 2nd game, rotation or not that's a sign. He is limited and the team know what he can do. These are just my opinions, I agree with some of Simon's statement but with either guy back there its a long season regardless of defense.... EJ consistently throws behind his receivers even when they are open. The few times he leads a Receiver he leads them right into an incoming Safety. It happened this Pre-Season, Last Season, and the Season before that. I don't see any improvement in EJ's ability to throw a covered receiver open or place the ball where a receiver can get YAC. I was impressed with Tyrod's beautiful spirals that gave his receiver a chance to Run. Harvin/Watkins/Clay/McCoy should all be YAC machines. You got to start the guy that gives the playmakers the best shot at getting YAC. Out of all the options that is not EJ, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Excellent! He's a pocket passed with a big arm. Which is what it takes to win it all. Young group of skilled receivers and a young QB, that NEED to develop chemistry and timeing to grow together. Improved accuracy and pocket awareness He's a Bill! Protypical size Gaining time in the league which should help him grasp defensive scheming Much higher ceiling than the other two guys Fan support, despite the detractors people are still enamored with the guy High character guy that would be good for the NFL in general, with the type of charators we've seen lately He's a number one draft pic! He's gotta see significant playing time on the field eventually. EJ has got to get his shot. Why wait, it makes no sense. To the coaches, regarding Cassel being the safe bet, no risk, no reward To the possibility of starting Tyrod, who wants their QB scrambling in the red zone, there's some big, fast, mean linebackers and safeties in this leauge. Doug Marrone did EJ Manuel and the Bills organization a disservice by benching a .500 QB in the 4th game of the season. Maybe he got "mad" again when EJ didn't answer him after the Watt INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Oh great I'm going to get suspended again. Don't worry I get suspended all the time. Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 EJ consistently throws behind his receivers even when they are open. The few times he leads a Receiver he leads them right into an incoming Safety. It happened this Pre-Season, Last Season, and the Season before that. I don't see any improvement in EJ's ability to throw a covered receiver open or place the ball where a receiver can get YAC. I was impressed with Tyrod's beautiful spirals that gave his receiver a chance to Run. Harvin/Watkins/Clay/McCoy should all be YAC machines. You got to start the guy that gives the playmakers the best shot at getting YAC. Out of all the options that is not EJ, imo. Which game this preseason? This should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Don't worry I get suspended all the time. Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/ I don't. At least not since Simon left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luap22 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I agree with the original author. EJ should start the first game. This complete lack of confidence in EJ is ridiculous. He needs game time experience and has the physical attributes to succeed. After we crushed GB's #1 QB, anybody can have a bad day. Start EJ and go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 That I'm not grounded? Or that it's nice I will give you a second chance I guess... Until those warning points start flying again, then I guess we will have to gang war, HAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 IMO EJ= Rob Johnson (Pedigree, Physicals, Came out of Central Casting for QB) Tyrod Taylor = Flutie 2.0 (Small, Good College QB, No Respect as an actual NFL QB candidate) There are 31 other franchises and 95 years of professional football to reference yet it somehow all comes back to this when QBs are discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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