San-O Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Don't get the Kessler love at all. Totally confused how him or hogan from Stanford keep showing up on lists. Bums!! Cardale Jones or bust Extremely accurate, great TD - INT ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Extremely accurate, great TD - INT ratio. He's a good college QB. IMO, if you draft him, you'd better be patient enough to let him sit a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 He's a good college QB. IMO, if you draft him, you'd better be patient enough to let him sit a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Easy answer: Mario for Skelton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I thought we were getting either Rivers or Eli?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I thought we were getting either Rivers or Eli?? I take Eli over Rivers all day long and twice n Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 He's a good college QB. IMO, if you draft him, you'd better be patient enough to let him sit a couple years. So if you haven't made the playoffs in 10+ years, you're better off not spending a 1st-round pick on him. That would not be a smart move at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I take Eli over Rivers all day long and twice n Sunday. Bad choice, IMO. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5529/philip-rivers http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5529/philip-rivers Manning throws way too many INTs for me. So if you haven't made the playoffs in 10+ years, you're better off not spending a 1st-round pick on him. That would not be a smart move at all. Yeah, I don't get the prepare to let him sit a couple years... why? He could be a 2nd/3rd round pick, depending on this season, and would be better than an E.J. who 3 years in may not even make the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 So if you haven't made the playoffs in 10+ years, you're better off not spending a 1st-round pick on him. That would not be a smart move at all. Exactly why I wouldn't spend a first round pick on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 The solution is to find one. We likely won't draft high enough to get a good one coming out but Terry is never adverse to spending money on free agents. Actually, if we don't draft high enough to get a good one, perhaps we've already found one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yeah, I don't get the prepare to let him sit a couple years... why? He could be a 2nd/3rd round pick, depending on this season, and would be better than an E.J. who 3 years in may not even make the team? He's guaranteed to be better than EJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I hear similar thoughts on this - maybe not every round - but drafting a QB every year comes up often. How in the world would you propose to evaluate if a QB hits in this scenario? Training camp body language, as reported by Joe B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Bad choice, IMO. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5529/philip-rivers http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5529/philip-rivers Manning throws way too many INTs for me. Eli has 2 SB rings in large part due to his being money when all the chips are on the line. Rivers, meanwhile, drops back without the football in those situations. Thus my choice of Eli. Plus those Giants teams (especially 2007) were run heavy teams like we want to be supposedly. Edited August 13, 2015 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 He's guaranteed to be better than EJ? He's guaranteed to be worse than EJ? Hard to imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Eli has 2 SB rings in large part due to his being money when all the chips are on the line. Rivers, meanwhile, drops back without the football in those situations. Thus my choice of Eli. Plus those Giants teams (especially 2007) were run heavy teams like we want to be supposedly. Yet I'm not sure Rivers has ever benefited from playing a D as good as the one's Eli has had in NY. That said Eli as you said clutch money and it's hard to dismiss that. Toss in Eli's used to playing in the Northeast where Rivers been in warm California for his career. Yet all things considered I have a feeling that Christian Hackenberg ends up our QB next year. As the Pegula's are big Penn State backers and have they'd have no problem going all in on a guy like him. Especially since getting him at a rookie contract give Whaley a better chance at keeping Dareus in the fold. As the most Hackenberg could cost against the cap is $4.1 million which equates about $500k less than what Cassel makes. Yet I don't see Hackenberg as a top guy off the board instead see him in the top 15 area. Don't get the Kessler love at all. Totally confused how him or hogan from Stanford keep showing up on lists. Bums!! Cardale Jones or bust Hogan is interesting since think he was recruited by Harbaugh/Roman. Yet I don't see him as a first round pick more of a 4th or 5th Round guy now but could be a 3rd Round pick with a strong senior season. I just posted I think Hackenberg is the Bills QB in 2016 all things considered. Edited August 13, 2015 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 That's a fine idea but that QB will most likely not be ready to start at QB on a playoff caliber team with Super Bowl aspirations.why not? So far it looks like decent amount of QBs this year with 1st rd grades, unlike last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 We trade all our 2016 draft picks for the first pick overall and draft the best qb available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I know the topic of our QB's and or situation going forward gets discussed constantly - but what is your solution? I'd like the Bills to trade for Zac Dysert in Denver before the start of this season. He's an ERFA which I believe as long as he's tendered a minimum contract offer by Denver he has to sign that deal for the 2016 season. I'd be willing to give up a 4th round draft pick to get him and possibly a player too. Convince SF that it's time to rebuild and go hard after Kaepernick. That only happens if Roman wants him and if Roman wants him you go get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Convince SF that it's time to rebuild and go hard after Kaepernick. That only happens if Roman wants him and if Roman wants him you go get him. That would be interesting for sure. What would you give / what do you think it would take to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) I hear similar thoughts on this - maybe not every round - but drafting a QB every year comes up often. How in the world would you propose to evaluate if a QB hits in this scenario? I agree. How does this work? Every team that doesn't have a franchise QB should draft a QB per year? If we all agree there are >10 teams that need franchise quarterbacks and there are <10 QBs per draft then how does that work out? I think this would lead to QB HELL, and because the rest of your team sucks (related to spending so many draft picks on QBs) you don't have the talent for your QB to succeed. Thus, the QB you drafted will be evaluated as bad and you'll picking near the top again. Meanwhile the teams that do have franchise QBs will take advantage of the surplus of good players at positions that aren't QB. Edited August 14, 2015 by YattaOkasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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