Beerball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Explain what available QB you'd rather have and why or we make you eat the big pieces What's step 2 and 3 FA and draft. Then the fun starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) One thing which cannot be overlooked, IMO, and was probably highly discussed at OBD is, we had EJ and Tuel on our team. We HAD to get a vet in FA. As soon as FA started we would be bringing in crappy guys and other teams would be after them, too, and we didn't know if we would get the one guy less crappy we wanted, and risked being stuck with the crappiest of the crappy, and had to wait and take a lot of time away from going after and Rex-schmoozing guys we want like a top OG or TE. Now we don't have to do that, even if we still want Jake Locker or someone else. Edited March 4, 2015 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Not sure why the font came out so large there. Sorry. Us old folks appreciated your thoughtfulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I see it like this.. EJ will be the starter and Cassell the back-up/starter in waiting... Then a QB in the draft who will sit and develop... Still I see the glaring need for a stud FA Guard... But I really like what is going on in the front office, no more sitting on their hands and feeding the fans BS.. Thank You Mr. Pegula!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I'm digging it. Cassel is decent. For the crowd that goes by won loss record, I'm not sure what his is exactly, but he did go 10-5 with Patsies in 2008 and 10-6 and playoffs with Cheaps in 2010, so it has to be pretty good. 96 TD vs 71 Ints lifetime. Could be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsswansonjr Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 It would be great if the Bills did not need Cassel to step in, hopefully EJ has a good year and a strong running game will allow this to occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 They will still sign a guy(Locker) and draft a guy in middle rounds. And they probably like Cassel because he protects the ball. Career TD:INT ratio of 96-70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTown Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I think signing Cassel is a great move. Is Cassel going to be the starter? who knows. He is competition and at this rate I believe we have only seen a few moves, FA hasn't even started and we have a Premier RB and solid competition at QB. I love the aggressive position on the New Front office. Last years 24th hour attempts to acquire competition for EJ were disastrous. This year is entirely different. The front office wants to win and win now. Having been a Bills fan since 72, I cannot remember a time when the front office has ever been this aggressive. Ever. It a great time to be a BILLS fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Can he hand the ball off? Throw to Watkins at least better than Orton? Not go into the fetal position under pressure? I truly don't know... if someone else does please tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I see it like this.. EJ will be the starter and Cassell the back-up/starter in waiting... Then a QB in the draft who will sit and develop... Still I see the glaring need for a stud FA Guard... But I really like what is going on in the front office, no more sitting on their hands and feeding the fans BS.. Thank You Mr. Pegula!!!! At least they're aggressively making moves, I'll give them that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I see it like this.. EJ will be the starter and Cassell the back-up/starter in waiting... Then a QB in the draft who will sit and develop... Still I see the glaring need for a stud FA Guard... But I really like what is going on in the front office, no more sitting on their hands and feeding the fans BS.. Thank You Mr. Pegula!!!! this. complacency from bills management is gone and hopefully never returns. trying your best to improve, even if it doesn't work out, is better than not trying. hopefully it works out just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Can he hand the ball off? Throw to Watkins at least better than Orton? Not go into the fetal position under pressure? I truly don't know... if someone else does please tell me. Obviously we aren't going to be the 2nd coming of the Saints and chuck the ball around 40 times a game. IMO the biggest thing Cassel brings is intelligence and experience. What makes Brady and Peyton so successful is everything that happens before the ball is snapped, they get their teams in the right plays and identify the best matchup. I expect Cassel to know when a run won't work and a check off is needed and to not turn the ball over. It's tough judging Orton knowing what we know now. When did he decide he was hanging it up? Was he playing the whole year just for one final paycheck? I think there were several times last year that Orton crossed the line in regards to self preservation. I expect Cassel to have a little more guts in that regard. Adding his first hand experience of BB and Brady certainly doesn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTown Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Can he hand the ball off? Throw to Watkins at least better than Orton? Not go into the fetal position under pressure? I truly don't know... if someone else does please tell me. I would say he is better in all aspects. Experience, pocket awareness, arm strength, ability to read defense. I thought he played well at both KC and Minn. Is he a viable game manager? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I see him as a mentor with the opportunity to start should EJ falter. Despite EJ's shortcomings, I really want him to succeed and have his obvious hard work pay off. Cassel has played on winning teams and witnessed the work habits of one of the ...pains me to write it or even think it....greatest QB's of all time in Brady. Passing his knowledge on to Manuel can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 One thing which cannot be overlooked, IMO, and was probably highly discussed at OBD is, we had EJ and Tuel on our team. We HAD to get a vet in FA. As soon as FA started we would be bringing in crappy guys and other teams would be after them, too, and we didn't know if we would get the one guy less crappy we wanted, and risked being stuck with the crappiest of the crappy, and had to wait and take a lot of time away from going after and Rex-schmoozing guys we want like a top OG or TE. Now we don't have to do that, even if we still want Jake Locker or someone else. This is such a good point. Now we don't have to worry (as much) about getting a guy we might be aiming for in FA (if we even cared about anyone outside of Cassel that much). No competition, we got "our guy" we can focus on whatever the hell we want now. I know a lot of people here are looking to bring in another FA, but frankly I think we'll head into camp with Cassel, EJ, Tuel, and a draft pick. Three will stick with the team (likely to be Cassel, EJ, and said draft pick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorguy Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Somewhere here in Minnesota, Rick Spielman is having some beers, laughing his butt off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Looking at Cassels contract he's owed a $500,000 roster bonus on 3/17 and $100,000 workout bonus so if he just stinks it up during offseason/camp/preseason then the Bills could still cut him and save $4.1 mil? So basically they gave up a 7th next year and swapped a round this year to take a look without having to convince him or guarantee his contract via free agency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Somewhere here in Minnesota, Rick Spielman is having some beers, laughing his butt off. Lol a 7th rd and flipping 5th with a 6th Ya he's got us good Looking at Cassels contract he's owed a $500,000 roster bonus on 3/17 and $100,000 workout bonus so if he just stinks it up during offseason/camp/preseason then the Bills could still cut him and save $4.1 mil? So basically they gave up a 7th next year and swapped a round this year to take a look without having to convince him or guarantee his contract via free agency? Also doesn't count as a free agent signing would could affect comp picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Somewhere here in Minnesota, Rick Spielman is having some beers, laughing his butt off. Rick Spielman is in Houston begging AP to at least pretend to be willing to play for the Vikings so he can trade him for a 4th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 He's good at throwing the deep ball and probably good at play-action. He's also good at handing off to top running backs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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