What a Tuel Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 This is a very cool analysis: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/without-drew-brees-jimmy-graham-is-a-good-but-not-great-receiver/ . Evening out QB play to average level across the league, 538 says that from 2011-2013, Stevie was the 12th best receiver in the NFL. But not good enough for the Bills. It's not even that we really need him. I mean we do need a third WR and/or a TE but it doesn't have to be him. It's just the people who think he sucks, and they don't want him on the team because we would somehow be worse with him that get to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickedface Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 bring SJ13 back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 This is a very cool analysis: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/without-drew-brees-jimmy-graham-is-a-good-but-not-great-receiver/ . Evening out QB play to average level across the league, 538 says that from 2011-2013, Stevie was the 12th best receiver in the NFL. Any analysis that says Gronk is the 38th best is just mental masterbation, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Any analysis that says Gronk is the 38th best is just mental masterbation, IMO... fair point. That said, his qb is really good, and if factor in productivity, it's worth noting that Gronk missed a large part of the 2013 season. Also, 38th best sounds about right in terms of yardage/catches given that Gronk is a TE. WRs pretty much always lead in those categories, and Gronk is a TE. The metric isn't that he's 38th best, but that he'd finish in the 30s in yardage/receptions if he played with an average qb because he's a TE. Edited March 2, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 2.13 Yards Per Route Run is good enough to put him in the top 20 receivers in the league. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/28/49ers-expected-to-part-with-wr-johnson/ I like him. Wouldn't mind having him back, but would prefer if we get a WR it would be a bigger guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'd take him back in a second. which is another reason your not a gm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Makes me feel better that the anti-Stevie crowd is full of posters with crappy spelling/grammar. You guys are right though. He's the only receiver that drops passes, he's lazy and his attitude is what spawned ISIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) The metric isn't that he's 38th best, but that he'd finish in the 30s in yardage/receptions if he played with an average qb because he's a TE. And yet your post above called Stevie the 12th best receiver...go figure. Edited March 3, 2015 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 And yet your post above called Stevie the 12th best receiver...go figure. That was a mistake on my part, for which I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 That was a mistake on my part, for which I apologize. as well you should. but accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 That was a mistake on my part, for which I apologize. No wories...it's only rock and roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Well it appears I have. Apologies to Lee. That got me thinking, what other bills wr's put up three 1,000 yard seasons in a row like SJ13. Turns out none of the top ones I thought of.... Evans, price, moulds, reed, lofton, butler ...ever had even two in a row yes none of us knew this, thanks for telling us this new information....it is also why SJ had an inordinate amount of fans, simply because he would get 1006 yards in a season and pos moulds could only get a measly 996 between his 1000 yard seasons. Makes me feel better that the anti-Stevie crowd is full of posters with crappy spelling/grammar. You guys are right though. He's the only receiver that drops passes, he's lazy and his attitude is what spawned ISIS. makes me feel better that sj supporters make zero sense whatsoever, also seeing that this one uses grammar and typos as a reason to criticize people...note to poster- people havent been doing that since 2012 when it was agreed upon that spelling and syntax werent necessary in a recreational blog and are considered a weak take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 yes none of us knew this, thanks for telling us this new information....it is also why SJ had an inordinate amount of fans, simply because he would get 1006 yards in a season and pos moulds could only get a measly 996 between his 1000 yard seasons. makes me feel better that sj supporters make zero sense whatsoever, also seeing that this one uses grammar and typos as a reason to criticize people...note to poster- people havent been doing that since 2012 when it was agreed upon that spelling and syntax werent necessary in a recreational blog and are considered a weak take. Crusade on. Go back to running watkins out of town. Enlightened one, can't listen to anything you say regarding wideouts. Sorry stevie stiffed you on that autograph. One day you will get over it. Sj all day baby. Look forward to watching him with his new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Why can't one acknowledge that both Moulds and Stevie were stellar receivers for us? It's amazing how black/white things get around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Stevie Johnson played in 48 straight games before 2013 so if he was injured he played injured but haters gonna hate I don't care. I remember numerous times when he couldn't get off the line of scrimmage or half-assed a route that led to an incompletion or turnover. Its one thing to play hurt to try to help the team and another to play hurt because you're not professional enough to be prepared for a 16 game season. Johnson is the perfect poster boy for why this team has sucked for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 49ers released WR Stevie Johnson. Johnson refused to accept a pay cut, ending his stint in San Francisco after one season. The fast-downward-trending 49ers gave up a fourth-round pick for him last offseason. Per NBC Washington's Dianna Marie Russini, Johnson is expected to sign with a new team "quickly." We'd guess Chan Gailey's Jets would be interested had they not recently traded for Brandon Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 49ers released WR Stevie Johnson. Johnson refused to accept a pay cut, ending his stint in San Francisco after one season. The fast-downward-trending 49ers gave up a fourth-round pick for him last offseason. Per NBC Washington's Dianna Marie Russini, Johnson is expected to sign with a new team "quickly." We'd guess Chan Gailey's Jets would be interested had they not recently traded for Brandon Marshall. why so serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Wow Stevie doesn't even want to be a niner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Wow Stevie doesn't even want to be a niner. Why should he want to? They still have Anquan Boldin and look like going to get adding Torrey Smith which leaves Stevie competing for the 3rd WR job with Jerome Simpson for the 3rd WR. He might be able to sign elsewhere and be a #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 If he goes to the Jets, it's going to be interesting. Possibly a Bills reunion with him, Chan, and CJ. I wouldn't be shocked, although they just traded for Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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