nucci Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Can't be hard knocks with a first year coach. As for Roman.... other than the pistol for Kaep what about his offense was innovative? It was a run first, ride the bell cow offense from what I can see. Not necessarily saying that is a bad thing for Buffalo I just don't get the "innovative" talk. Although he is certainly an upgrade on Nate. Can be if Bills say ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The Bills get a big name HC who has a great defensive background. He will bring his defensive assistants with him and an OC (either Roman or Trestman) who has been successful for years in the NFL. When was the last time you can say that about a Bills HC? The Bills are finally investing in a HC. Long overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Beeeews Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 You can never have enough Rex Ryan / Foot Fetish references. This will never not be funny. So good! LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 You can never have enough Rex Ryan / Foot Fetish references. This will never not be funny. So good! LMAO disagree. its so old, over used and lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Also: 11) Mandatory routine pedicures for all female staff members 12) Hard Knocks: Buffalo? Oh good point. I think this guarantees us a spot on Hard Knocks. No team volunteers for it, we are one of hte few the NFL can mandate it to. Wait, I take that back, I think a new HC buys you a year off the list of teams the NFL can make do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 disagree. its so old, over used and lame. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Oh good point. I think this guarantees us a spot on Hard Knocks. No team volunteers for it, we are one of hte few the NFL can mandate it to. Wait, I take that back, I think a new HC buys you a year off the list of teams the NFL can make do it? Yep. Bills can't be forced to be on Hard Knocks this year. They can still opt in to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Roman's first few years with San Francisco were pretty great. They didn't look so hot this year. I hope it has more to do with the Harbaugh fall out than him losing his creativity. Maybe he can even get Manuel where we want him to be. EJ is not anywhere near Kap's raw talent, but some of his issues are similar. Roman did a good job scheming with those in mind. I'm really excited. Hope there's a way we retain our defensive staff (Schwartz, Pepper and Donnie) despite Rex moving in, but if we can't I trust Rex and his crew with our defensive talent. Is Roman a done deal? During the late game yesterday I saw that he was interviewing with Cleveland.Is Roman a done deal? During the late game yesterday I saw that he was interviewing with Cleveland. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/greg_roman_unlikely_to_intervi.html Found this, doesn't look like he is going to Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 1) Rex Ryan is a proven NFL commodity. Let's face it: the Falcons, 49ers, Bears, and even the Jets are all considered more desirable and prestigious coaching jobs. Reports have come out that Atlanta was Rex's first choice, followed by SF. That is not a negative thing that he wasn't in love with the Buffalo situation, it's a positive thing that we swooped in and got him while other teams were indecisive. 2) The coordinators are not the messiahs. Frank Reich is not ready to be a head coach. He just doesn't have enough experience. The Buffalo connection is cool, but he's not on other teams short lists. The Seahawks assistants are sexy, but really Pete Carroll is the one making it happen out there. We've seen other coaching trees plucked dry to no avail many times in the past around the league. That's not to say none of these coordinators will go on to have success, but if one of them goes on to coach a team to a conference championship game that would be considered a huge success. Rex has already done that. 3) Speaking of that conference championship game, that Jets team and roster with Sanchez and the great defense was pretty similar to the situation he is now taking over in Buffalo. 4) The defense was great under Pettine. The defense was great under Schwartz. The defense will be great under Ryan, because the defense has great players. 5) The last OC had no business being an NFL coordinator. The new OC has proven experience on a team that went to a Superbowl. This is a big upgrade over Hackett. 6) Both the new HC and OC have experience working with teams that have strong defensive talent and a lack of production from the QB position. I wish we had Andrew Luck on the roster, but the reality is we don't. These guys can work with what we have today. 7) I have my issues with Whaley. I am not an EJ Manuel guy, and with the way other rookies played this year the Watkins trade looks iffy. However, it seems clear to be that this team has been ON THE WHOLE increasing the amount of talent on the roster for the last several seasons. The owners sided with the current front office and I support them. 8) The Bills will get added national media attention with Rex as HC. If the team gets hot next year, it could cause Buffalo to all of a sudden become a much hotter free agent destination for the 2016 offseason. 9) The last several times the Bills had a coaching search, the process was lengthy and they were spurned by many candidates, and it felt like they were left scraping the bottom of the barrel. Jauron and Gailey were old, behind the times, and washed up. Marrone was a longshot flyer that no one else really wanted, who had a very marginal resume but happened to coach in the right geographic region. This time they interviewed a wide variety of great candidates, and acted decisively in getting a quality staff in place. 10) RYAN AND ROMAN IS A CLEAR UPGRADE OVER MARRONE AND HACKETT Excellent post. I agree with all of them, particularly (2) -- the defense will be good because the personnel is good. No one should be worried about the Pettine (Rex system) - to Schwartz - to Rex (maybe with Schwartz) transition. And I like the infusion of all the newcomers -- the most dangerous thing as far as I'm concerned would have been to stand pat in the offseason, hoping that a minor tweak here and there would get us over the hump. An outsiders point of view was critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 how about Callahan to coach the O-Line. that would be insane along with Roman/Ryan/Schwartz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 No one has mentioned that any defenders around for 2 years will be familiar with the defense since it is probably the same as Pettine's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 disagree. its so old, over used and lame. totally agree. these Rex fetish jokes have had one foot in the grave for some time, and now i'd go so far as to say they're six feet under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I'd be mildly surprised if the Browns aren't the Hard Knocks team. Pretty certain they can't say no and their widespread fan base, never having done it and Johnny Football drama makes them a likely ratings darling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 1) Rex Ryan is a proven NFL commodity. Let's face it: the Falcons, 49ers, Bears, and even the Jets are all considered more desirable and prestigious coaching jobs. Reports have come out that Atlanta was Rex's first choice, followed by SF. That is not a negative thing that he wasn't in love with the Buffalo situation, it's a positive thing that we swooped in and got him while other teams were indecisive. 2) The coordinators are not the messiahs. Frank Reich is not ready to be a head coach. He just doesn't have enough experience. The Buffalo connection is cool, but he's not on other teams short lists. The Seahawks assistants are sexy, but really Pete Carroll is the one making it happen out there. We've seen other coaching trees plucked dry to no avail many times in the past around the league. That's not to say none of these coordinators will go on to have success, but if one of them goes on to coach a team to a conference championship game that would be considered a huge success. Rex has already done that. 3) Speaking of that conference championship game, that Jets team and roster with Sanchez and the great defense was pretty similar to the situation he is now taking over in Buffalo. 4) The defense was great under Pettine. The defense was great under Schwartz. The defense will be great under Ryan, because the defense has great players. 5) The last OC had no business being an NFL coordinator. The new OC has proven experience on a team that went to a Superbowl. This is a big upgrade over Hackett. 6) Both the new HC and OC have experience working with teams that have strong defensive talent and a lack of production from the QB position. I wish we had Andrew Luck on the roster, but the reality is we don't. These guys can work with what we have today. 7) I have my issues with Whaley. I am not an EJ Manuel guy, and with the way other rookies played this year the Watkins trade looks iffy. However, it seems clear to be that this team has been ON THE WHOLE increasing the amount of talent on the roster for the last several seasons. The owners sided with the current front office and I support them. 8) The Bills will get added national media attention with Rex as HC. If the team gets hot next year, it could cause Buffalo to all of a sudden become a much hotter free agent destination for the 2016 offseason. 9) The last several times the Bills had a coaching search, the process was lengthy and they were spurned by many candidates, and it felt like they were left scraping the bottom of the barrel. Jauron and Gailey were old, behind the times, and washed up. Marrone was a longshot flyer that no one else really wanted, who had a very marginal resume but happened to coach in the right geographic region. This time they interviewed a wide variety of great candidates, and acted decisively in getting a quality staff in place. 10) RYAN AND ROMAN IS A CLEAR UPGRADE OVER MARRONE AND HACKETT I like your thinking. I am a big fan of Doug Whaley, I think you can see real progress in just the depth of talent the team now has, especially on the defensive side of the ball, and I really don't blame him too much for whiffing on a QB, of all the positions to draft for, unless you have an Andrew Luck available, it's going to always be a crap shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Defense wasn't great under Pettine...it was good. Terrible against the run. Schwartz D was much better The defense was 4th in the league under Pettine via Football Outsiders. It was very, very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 I like your thinking. I am a big fan of Doug Whaley, I think you can see real progress in just the depth of talent the team now has, especially on the defensive side of the ball, and I really don't blame him too much for whiffing on a QB, of all the positions to draft for, unless you have an Andrew Luck available, it's going to always be a crap shoot. People forget how sick of the Edwards > Fitzpatrick era everyone was. There was immense pressure to draft a new QB. Also, they didn't really intend on playing EJ right away. They brought in Kolb to ease the transition for a year, but didn't foresee him retiring due to preseason concussions. Obviously the EJ pick was not Whaley's finest hour, but on the whole the regime has drafted and assembled talent well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeyBomb Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It's really hard taking your hot sports opinions seriously with a name like DukeyBomb. signed BeefCurtns Haha. I like that. I thought that was the case too but it appears the Bills can be considered according to reports. I believe that is true, think teams can volunteer but can't be forced to participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Can't be hard knocks with a first year coach. As for Roman.... other than the pistol for Kaep what about his offense was innovative? It was a run first, ride the bell cow offense from what I can see. Not necessarily saying that is a bad thing for Buffalo I just don't get the "innovative" talk. Although he is certainly an upgrade on Nate. Cant be FORCED to do it with first year head coach. But I have said this year and last, we should Volunteer. Get it out of the way. I'd rather be distracted at 9-7 than 11-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 I was iffy on the Ryan signing until I saw Roman as the OC. This guy knows exactly what to do in a situation where a team has a great defense, but doesn't have a top notch offense. He runs the football. With that said, I'm a bit concerned about the Bills RB situation. Both Spiller and Jackson hit the market as free agents. That means we're going into the draft with just Boobie Dixon and Bryce Brown at RB. Not super excited yet about the RB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 You should have mentioned Roman more, he is a huge pickup. Our offense will have a ton of creativity and players love him. He makes it easy and he's on the cutting edge. He's also had great success with the running game and even had very good success with a young mobile QB and even Alex Smith had his best year under him. Great hires! A+. Also hoping we can add Iupati, Davis, Crabtree and hell throw in Gore too. Hearing rumors of a possible Revis and Rex reconnection? One things for sure, things have gotten and will be very interesting. Love it! Roman has had to scheme against the Seahawks, that has to count for something too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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