dave mcbride Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/13803/benching-manuel-takes-burden-off-marrone The decision, the Bills say, was made entirely by Marrone, who delivered the news Monday afternoon to general manager Doug Whaley. "I didn't ask for an agreement," Marrone explained. "I just went in there and said, 'This is the direction that I'm going.'" ------- This of course makes me wonder about their relationship and who was really the advocate for bringing in Orton. Something tells me that Marrone may not have been as critical of bringing in Orton as the media (Florio and others) would have us believe. Edited September 29, 2014 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) http://espn.go.com/b...den-off-marrone The decision, the Bills say, was made entirely by Marrone, who delivered the news Monday afternoon to general manager Doug Whaley. "I didn't ask for an agreement," Marrone explained. "I just went in there and said, 'This is the direction that I'm going.'" ------- This of course makes me wonder about their relationship and who was really the advocate for bringing in Orton. Something tells me that Marrone may not have been as critical of bringing in Orton as the media (Florio and others) would have us believe. I thought Florio was full of it from the moment he made his post about it. It just didn't make any sense. And of course, today in his post about it, he makes it sound like Marrone has reversed course, rather than Florio being wrong all along. Edited September 30, 2014 by MRW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Marrone and Whaley are fine. That was much about nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) http://espn.go.com/b...den-off-marrone ------- This of course makes me wonder about their relationship and who was really the advocate for bringing in Orton. Something tells me that Marrone may not have been as critical of bringing in Orton as the media (Florio and others) would have us believe. If he made the decision first and then told Whaley, to me it points to a good relationship. You want the coach to make big decisions before checking in with the front office. Whaley must have empowered him enough to allow him to make the football decision. Edited September 30, 2014 by Fan in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Bills Optimist Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I didn't read Florio's thoughts on the situation, but I assumed from the so-called spat between the Dougs that Doug M. was upset by the Palmer signing given the general dreadfulness of Jeff and Thad. From that, I always assumed Doug M. was the one pushing for a better upgrade at back-up QB than Doug W. had provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 We just love to conjure up controversies these days. Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 http://espn.go.com/b...den-off-marrone The decision, the Bills say, was made entirely by Marrone, who delivered the news Monday afternoon to general manager Doug Whaley. "I didn't ask for an agreement," Marrone explained. "I just went in there and said, 'This is the direction that I'm going.'" ------- This of course makes me wonder about their relationship and who was really the advocate for bringing in Orton. Something tells me that Marrone may not have been as critical of bringing in Orton as the media (Florio and others) would have us believe. St. Doug being St. Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Why would a coach ask for a GM's permission before managing who's playing and who's not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Why would a coach ask for a GM's permission before managing who's playing and who's not? And why would a coach feel the need to point out that he didn't ask permission? Kinda strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 And why would a coach feel the need to point out that he didn't ask permission? Kinda strange. Maybe he was asked if he conferred with the other Doug and this was his blunt way of saying he has control over those personnel decisions. I wouldn't read much more into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 And why would a coach feel the need to point out that he didn't ask permission? Kinda strange. It was the way that the question was asked that prompted that response. It's nothing of consequence IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 http://espn.go.com/b...den-off-marrone The decision, the Bills say, was made entirely by Marrone, who delivered the news Monday afternoon to general manager Doug Whaley. "I didn't ask for an agreement," Marrone explained. "I just went in there and said, 'This is the direction that I'm going.'" ------- This of course makes me wonder about their relationship and who was really the advocate for bringing in Orton. Something tells me that Marrone may not have been as critical of bringing in Orton as the media (Florio and others) would have us believe. I am surprised that this thread didn't get more attention. Do you think that Mularkey would have made a move like this without consulting Donahoe? Marrone isn't exactly my favorite coach of all time but he really does have a redeeming factor or 2. And I DO believe the report from a month or so ago where he was alleged to have told Whaley, "if you want, fire me," or words to that effect. He needs to retain control of the team and keep the players believing that they have a chance to win. I respect this move and btw thanks for posting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 "They want you to cook the dinner at least they should let you shop for the groceries." - Bill Parcells. since I didn't shop for the groceries, i'll cook what I want - Doug Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Marrone clearly made this move to save the locker room (and his job) - not saying it wasn't the right move, it was, but he was about to lose the team (which I predicted on Sunday night). And the fact that the coach has final say on his gameday roster is important for luring future coaches here. The stain of the Flutie/Johnson intervention still lingers over this franchise. Of course, Marrone's refusal to put Urbik in over Pears, which is a direct by-product of this new authority, may ultimately contribute to get Marrone fired. But at least he'll be hanging himself by his own petard, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 And why would a coach feel the need to point out that he didn't ask permission? Kinda strange. DOUBLE conspiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 "They want you to cook the dinner at least they should let you shop for the groceries." - Bill Parcells. since I didn't shop for the groceries, i'll cook what I want - Doug Marrone. "since i have no ingredients and i'm a terrible cook, we'll go get some cheeseburgers." -- mike mularkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If he made the decision first and then told Whaley, to me it points to a good relationship. You want the coach to make big decisions before checking in with the front office. Whaley must have empowered him enough to allow him to make the football decision. Yep. And by publicly stating this, Marrone is putting all the responsibility for the decision on his shoulders - where it belongs as HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 DOUBLE conspiracy! That can only mean one thing: Ralph forced Marrone and Whaley to bench Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I didn't read Florio's thoughts on the situation, but I assumed from the so-called spat between the Dougs that Doug M. was upset by the Palmer signing given the general dreadfulness of Jeff and Thad. From that, I always assumed Doug M. was the one pushing for a better upgrade at back-up QB than Doug W. had provided. according to this article, it was Whaley that wanted Orton, not Marrone. Either way, hopefully Whaley empowered Doug to make football decisions regarding who starts, and Doug woke up and realized that EJ was going to get him fired (and a few WR's killed). http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/ej-manuel-buffalo-bills-benched-kyle-orton-doug-marrone-doug-whaley-092914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halijack Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I feel this story/comment lends much more credence to that sideline blowup story from training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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