YoloinOhio Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) taking a guy in the 2nd round who failed most teams physicals and has arthritic knees is never a good idea. Even if they were in love with him, he would/should have been available in the 3rd. I feel bad for him, he seems like a great guy, hard worker, but he cannot play tackle in the NFL. Guard is the only possible position for him. and opens up a roster spot for someone who can block. I like the idea. i don't know if he will pan out but I do know he would not have been there in the 3rd based on what I now know about one team's big board. I personally think they should try him at guard this season and see how that goes. It is not uncommon to do this with raw rookie tackles from college offenses that were run dominant. He has been brutal at times that have been called out but I'll give him a season of NFL coaching at least before moving on. He's 21. Edited August 17, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 He has been awful. But some of this blame must go on the FO. No reason to spend a second round pick on an O-lineman who has arthritic knees. He can't keep up with the speed of the game. Perhaps he'd be a better backup DT, given his ability to create turnovers and sacks? Ironically this could turn into a James Hardy/Stevie Johnson situation where the 2nd round pick is awful and playing like a 7th round pick but the 7th round pick plays like the 2nd rounder should be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogman Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Destined for a minor injury in the last pre-season game to spend the year on IR. See if he can get it together for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 i don't know if he will pan out but I do know he would not have been there in the 3rd based on what I now know about one team's big board. I personally think they should try him at guard this season and see how that goes. It is not uncommon to do this with raw rookie tackles from college offenses that were run dominant. He has been brutal at times that have been called out but I'll give him a season of NFL coaching at least before moving on. He's 21. Raw could be used to describe Henderson, but, not Kouandjio, IMO. The second came from The NCAA team. Started multiple seasons and played multiple positions. Kouandjio may in fact get a look inside, but, it wouldn't have anything to do with rawness. (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I can understand the frustration from a second round pick whom has two national championship rings, however, I am willing to be more patient. Everyone wants to compare the kid to Henderson, we'll Henderson was a first round talent whom just had various off the field issues. Look at burfict of the bengals or honey badger of the cards, players with elite talent that fall due to concerns. Henderson is every bit the talent we think he can be so to compare the two is unfair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) MArrone called Kujo "Venus De Milo"....before the game. Edited August 17, 2014 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 MArrone called Kujo "Venus De Milo"....before the game. Morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Morris Oops, you're right. I was going to say that that was the cleverest quote by Marrone yet, but I guess we'll have to wait a while longer for one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Morris Yeah, it was OL coach Pat Morris who called Kujo "Venus de Millo." But no matter the source, it's not a compliment to be likened to an immobile statue by your position coach. Not an auspicious beginning to Kujo's NFL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Yeah, it was OL coach Pat Morris who called Kujo "Venus de Millo." But no matter the source, it's not a compliment to be likened to an immobile statue by your position coach. Not an auspicious beginning to Kujo's NFL career. Nope. Oops, you're right. I was going to say that that was the cleverest quote by Marrone yet, but I guess we'll have to wait a while longer for one of those. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 (edited) Raw could be used to describe Henderson, but, not Kouandjio, IMO. The second came from The NCAA team. Started multiple seasons and played multiple positions. Kouandjio may in fact get a look inside, but, it wouldn't have anything to do with rawness. (IMO) "raw" for the NFL OT position because of the offense they ran at Bama. Fluker was also a very raw pass blocker. Greg Robinson from auburn as well.. Raw in passing game. Which is one reason they are starting him out at Guard in STL. jake Matthews, OTOH,came from a pass happy offense and is not raw at all in the transition to the NFL OT position. Thats what I meant by using that term. Edited August 17, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 What is the opposite of bowlegged? His knees look concave, they seem to bend inwards. I agree with those who are saying he'll end up on I.R. with some kind of scratch. There is something very wrong with the guy. I watched his college highlights and he is not the same player. The way he played last night, if he was a UDFA, he'd be cut tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 That`s right coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 What is the opposite of bowlegged? His knees look concave, they seem to bend inwards. I agree with those who are saying he'll end up on I.R. with some kind of scratch. There is something very wrong with the guy. I watched his college highlights and he is not the same player. The way he played last night, if he was a UDFA, he'd be cut tomorrow. My guess is that most of his struggles have to do with playing RT. He's probably having difficulties with the transition from LT. He needs more time and coaching. You have to remember that he's still young (barely 21) and relatively new to football as he only started playing in high school. Patience is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Yeah, it was OL coach Pat Morris who called Kujo "Venus de Millo." But no matter the source, it's not a compliment to be likened to an immobile statue by your position coach. Not an auspicious beginning to Kujo's NFL career. Venus has no arms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 People in this thread are hilarious. Yes, he's doomed because he hasn't adjusted to the speed of the NFL in 3 preseason games. That's absolutely laughable, and this is coming from a guy that picked Kouandjio as his "guaranteed bust" in the "name your draft bust" thread this year. As for moving him to OG, there's a lot to learn about playing in limited space, and I think that--when a guy is already struggling to adjust to the pro game--teams try to avoid throwing even more learning into the mix. Let's remember this about footwork and speed: when it comes to "fast feet" vs "slow feet" the actual difference in speed is fractions of a second. The real defining factor in the speed/mechanics of footwork is muscle memory, which is absolutely something that can be trained. That's how a guy like Jonathan Ogden goes from giving up the most sacks in the NFL in his second year (and subsequently being tried at LG) to a HOF LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Yeah, it was OL coach Pat Morris who called Kujo "Venus de Millo." But no matter the source, it's not a compliment to be likened to an immobile statue by your position coach. Not an auspicious beginning to Kujo's NFL career. Yikes, that from the Bill Parcells school of coaching? What a slam from a coach. An immobile statue... with no arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbyte Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 He has slow feet, remember guards have to pull. He just too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I don't think the NFL would like that. I was trying to remember the name of the draft pick they stashed on IR after a brutal camp a few years ago. It was tackle Zebrie Sanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Yikes, that from the Bill Parcells school of coaching? What a slam from a coach. An immobile statue... with no arms! Love it. The guy seemed arrogant from the moment he was drafted, thought he was dissed for not going in first round. So he needs this kind of wake-up call. Venus de Milo..beautiful name for a bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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