What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[LeviF]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Oy vey.

 

 

It would be amusing if this wasn’t also what the regime believes and actively strives towards. 

[Tommy Callahan]

Here is a NY Liberal Judge explaining why Illigal Gun Possession should continue to be a victimless crime.  and drive the catch and release in the cities.

 

https://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news/crime/2023/11/28/liberal-judge-on-nys-top-court-says-key-gun-law-is-unconstitutional/71672846007/

 

"In a dissenting opinion from one of several gun cases decided last Tuesday, Rivera said it was time to invalidate the law at issue — which says the mere possession of an unlicensed firearm implies an intent to use that firearm illegally.

This implication, enshrined in law, is used to prosecute certain gun crimes, some of which have a so-called "intent" requirement."

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[KDIGGZ]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

🎯

 

 

Exactly. Civilians had the exact same firepower as the government. I totally agree with you. We need the same stuff the military has! Balance of power

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said:

Exactly. Civilians had the exact same firepower as the government. I totally agree with you. We need the same stuff the military has! Balance of power

Bullshitte

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Exactly. Civilians had the exact same firepower as the government. I totally agree with you. We need the same stuff the military has! Balance of power

You guys totally miss read well, armed militia, armed Militia is the National Guard it’s not you

Edited December 1, 2023 by John from Riverside

[Tommy Callahan]

3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

You guys totally miss read well, armed militia, armed Militia is the National Guard it’s not you

Oxford comma.  Militia has nothing to do with the individual right 

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Oxford comma.  Militia has nothing to do with the individual right 

Nor is the militia the national guard. 

[KDIGGZ]

5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

You guys totally miss read well, armed militia, armed Militia is the National Guard it’s not you

So the founding fathers made every level of our new government comprised of checks and balances but you think they wanted the entirety of the power of defense (which they felt was the 2nd most important thing to ensuring freedom) to be in the hands of the government when they themselves were the militia fighting a government that had become too powerful? I honestly can't believe anyone would take that viewpoint. I don't know, maybe read a book and stop watching CNN?

Edited December 1, 2023 by KDIGGZ

[Tommy Callahan]

5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

You guys totally miss read well, armed militia, armed Militia is the National Guard it’s not you

Try reading the federalist papers (#46), Heller vs DC.  New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Braun and so on.

 

 

 

https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2012/12/madison-federal.html

[B-Man]

 

 

Shooter on UNLV campus, multiple victims. Shooter dead  

 

Perhaps we could wait and see what the actual facts are.

 

 

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[BillStime]

Just now, B-Man said:

Perhaps we could wait and see what the actual facts are.

that’s cute 

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Shooter on UNLV campus, multiple victims. Shooter dead  

 

Perhaps we could wait and see what the actual facts are.

 

 

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Facts:

1) guns killed people

2) guns killed people and thus assault weapons

3) all guns kill people

4) guns will kill everyone

5) send money to ActBlue

[Tommy Callahan]

21 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Shooter on UNLV campus, multiple victims. Shooter dead  

 

Perhaps we could wait and see what the actual facts are.

 

 

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Big one in Texas last night across multiple targets.  Peeps from the msm.  

[BillStime]

 

[Tiberius]

54 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Shooter on UNLV campus, multiple victims. Shooter dead  

 

Perhaps we could wait and see what the actual facts are.

 

 

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Trump would have stopped it!! His supporters said so! 

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[boyst]

it was a professor who killed people - so i'm not surprised his political party has not been mentioned.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Like other 'good' Democrats, Sen. Chris Murphy was quick to exploit the shooting at UNLV to push for ... wait for it ... you know it's coming ... more gun control. Democrats never ever let a crisis go to waste. 

 

 

 

This carnage is a choice.

 

Yes, by mentally-ill criminals who don't give a single damn about any of his 'legislation' or pandering to the gun control lobby. Republicans aren't 'choosing' carnage, that's just hate-filled horse manure. Fine, if he wants to play that game then every time a Democrat blocks a pro-life bill or votes 'present' on a bill calling out antisemitism they are choosing carnage.

 

And c'mon, 90% of Americans? What's your source, Murphy?

 

 

Quote

 

 

What do you think your bill would have done to prevent the UNLV shooting?

 

Here's a hint: nothing.

 

https://twitter.com/richardrahl1086/status/1732559751182229694?

 

 

His bill wouldn't do anything BUT let him pretend he did something to end gun violence, and then when it doesn't magically end because criminals and insane people DON'T OBEY THE LAW he'll be back up there pushing for another bill and claiming Republicans are ok with death. This is about politics, nothing more.

 

https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/12/07/chris-murphy-90-of-americans-gun-grab-n2390574

 

 

 

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[boyst]

4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Like other 'good' Democrats, Sen. Chris Murphy was quick to exploit the shooting at UNLV to push for ... wait for it ... you know it's coming ... more gun control. Democrats never ever let a crisis go to waste. 

 

 

 

This carnage is a choice.

 

Yes, by mentally-ill criminals who don't give a single damn about any of his 'legislation' or pandering to the gun control lobby. Republicans aren't 'choosing' carnage, that's just hate-filled horse manure. Fine, if he wants to play that game then every time a Democrat blocks a pro-life bill or votes 'present' on a bill calling out antisemitism they are choosing carnage.

 

And c'mon, 90% of Americans? What's your source, Murphy?

 

 

https://twitter.com/richardrahl1086/status/1732559751182229694?

 

 

His bill wouldn't do anything BUT let him pretend he did something to end gun violence, and then when it doesn't magically end because criminals and insane people DON'T OBEY THE LAW he'll be back up there pushing for another bill and claiming Republicans are ok with death. This is about politics, nothing more.

 

https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/12/07/chris-murphy-90-of-americans-gun-grab-n2390574

 

 

 

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if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns!!!1111oneone

[LeviF]

"carnage is a choice."

 

Yet another example of the woke being more correct than the mainstream.

 

The murder rate in America would drop to near zero if we actually punished criminals for the breaking of laws already on the books. The American experience with regard to homicide is exceptional in the fact that a very large percentage of them are preventable but the government simply chooses not to prevent them. The regime chooses this every day.

[Irv]

20 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Shooter on UNLV campus, multiple victims. Shooter dead  

 

Perhaps we could wait and see what the actual facts are.

 

 

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Biden botches another.  Spends more time sending money to Ukraine and pandering to the freak fringe groups than attending to serious mental health issues in this country.  What a mess.  

 

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by Irv

[B-Man]

 

 

I guess the Nevada and Texas shootings weren't the "right kind of shootings" 

 

No liberal narratives pushed today.

 

 

 

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

On 12/1/2023 at 1:55 AM, John from Riverside said:

You guys totally miss read well, armed militia, armed Militia is the National Guard it’s not you

 

Well, you're wrong... and I was in the Army National Guard, so I'm good 👍

[Tommy Callahan]

Mass shootings every weekend (never make the national news). two high profile ones in the last week.  Media barely even mentioned them.  

 

CNN laser focused on The Michigan school shooter from 2021

 

Gotta hold the narrative.  focus on the outlier.  Ignore the majority. Cant make it up.  Why, so the majority not fit a narrative?  what is the narrative?

 

 

 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ethan-crumbley-sentencing-oxford-shooting-12-08-23/index.html

 

https://www.cnn.com/

 

 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Well, you're wrong... and I was in the Army National Guard, so I'm good 👍

I’m not wrong the National Guard or weekend warriors who at least have to train so if they don’t shoot themselves in the foot
 

Militia is not your wanna be soldiers that are out there playing around in the woods

 

And if you don’t believe that, just call up your militia and try to take an aggressive action find out how quickly it’s not recognized

[B-Man]

 

 

CIVIL RIGHTS UPDATE: 

 

BREAKING: Federal Appeals Court Strikes Down New York’s Signage,

Social Media Disclosure Requirements for Concealed Carry.

 

 

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-federal-appeals-court-strikes-down-new-yorks-signage-social-media-disclosure-requirements-for-concealed-carry/

 

 

 

                                       

 

 

 

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[LeviF]

20 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I’m not wrong the National Guard or weekend warriors who at least have to train so if they don’t shoot themselves in the foot
 

Militia is not your wanna be soldiers that are out there playing around in the woods

 

And if you don’t believe that, just call up your militia and try to take an aggressive action find out how quickly it’s not recognized

No. 
 

You don’t know what the militia of the United States is, you don’t know what “well regulated” means, you don’t know what a “free state” is, and you don’t know what “shall not be infringed” means. 
 

Or you deliberately obfuscate it. Is it better to be malevolent or ignorant?

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, LeviF said:

No. 
 

You don’t know what the militia of the United States is, you don’t know what “well regulated” means, you don’t know what a “free state” is, and you don’t know what “shall not be infringed” means. 
 

Or you deliberately obfuscate it. Is it better to be malevolent or ignorant?

Go ahead and call up that so-called Militia see how that works out

 

The government doesn’t recognize it therefore it’s not

 

If that so-called militia ever tried to go against the government, they would get squashed

 

If you wanna be in a well, regulated, recognized militia, join the guard

[Tommy Callahan]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Go ahead and call up that so-called Militia see how that works out

 

The government doesn’t recognize it therefore it’s not

 

If that so-called militia ever tried to go against the government, they would get squashed

 

If you wanna be in a well, regulated, recognized militia, join the guard

Why would you assume any militia would go against the cops 

 

 Up this way half the militia members are cops.  Probably the same there 

[Orlando Tim]

The very argument that the founding fathers did not mean that individuals had a right to weapons is basically stating you have no idea what happened from 1770 to 1789 in the USA. The English had tried to confiscate the colonist weapons on multiple occasions and the only reasons we survived is the people willing to step up with their weapons. If you want to argue that we should change it that is a fine argument I disagree with but please stop saying such stupidity.

[LeviF]

18 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

The very argument that the founding fathers did not mean that individuals had a right to weapons is basically stating you have no idea what happened from 1770 to 1789 in the USA. The English had tried to confiscate the colonist weapons on multiple occasions and the only reasons we survived is the people willing to step up with their weapons. If you want to argue that we should change it that is a fine argument I disagree with but please stop saying such stupidity.

Not only do you have to be blindingly stupid to not understand the 2nd in its historical context but you also have to be wildly ignorant of the various writings on the topic leading up to the ratification of the Constitution and the promises made to ratification’s initial opponents. 

Edited December 10, 2023 by LeviF

[aristocrat]

Weird 

[John from Riverside]

11 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

The very argument that the founding fathers did not mean that individuals had a right to weapons is basically stating you have no idea what happened from 1770 to 1789 in the USA. The English had tried to confiscate the colonist weapons on multiple occasions and the only reasons we survived is the people willing to step up with their weapons. If you want to argue that we should change it that is a fine argument I disagree with but please stop saying such stupidity.

Well regulated militia

10 hours ago, LeviF said:

Not only do you have to be blindingly stupid to not understand the 2nd in its historical context but you also have to be wildly ignorant of the various writings on the topic leading up to the ratification of the Constitution and the promises made to ratification’s initial opponents. 

Call it up And find out what happens

[LeviF]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Well regulated militia

Call it up And find out what happens

Don’t need to. The “organized” militia all have wives, homes, mothers, daughters. It’ll sort itself out if it comes down to it. 
 

By the way, the Supreme Court says the 2A isn’t for the “militia” anyway, it’s for individuals. So your entire point, if you even had one to begin with, is moot. 

Edited December 10, 2023 by LeviF

[Orlando Tim]

11 hours ago, LeviF said:

Not only do you have to be blindingly stupid to not understand the 2nd in its historical context but you also have to be wildly ignorant of the various writings on the topic leading up to the ratification of the Constitution and the promises made to ratification’s initial opponents. 

That's what I said- just with more better words😁

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Well regulated militia

What a very democrat response- no context or even basic understanding of the English language just a short quote that you pretend means something very different than what it does. Can you even define a militia? I can define shall not be infringed. 

[John from Riverside]

28 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

That's what I said- just with more better words😁

What a very democrat response- no context or even basic understanding of the English language just a short quote that you pretend means something very different than what it does. Can you even define a militia? I can define shall not be infringed. 

Playing around in the woods like you’re actually going to shoot somebody that’s the Militia
 

In real terms, they’re better off just keep playing

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

Playing around in the woods like you’re actually going to shoot somebody that’s the Militia
 

In real terms, they’re better off just keep playing

How are the Ukrainians doing?