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11 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Being psychos. Why then are these gangs  more prone to violence than other people?  They commit 99 percent of the mass murders. Meanwhile normal people own guns and don’t commit mass murder 

Some smart folks argue that today's mass shooters are just yesterday's serial killers.

 

Either way 99% of mass shootings are gang related and in DEM strongholds where DEM DA's don't charge for things like gun possession. give probation as long it doesn't make the national news.

 

DEMS policies cater to the majority of gun crime, while they scream about removing the right from legal citizens.

 

Bills time proves its very low IQ with every reply.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Either way 99% of mass shootings are gang related


Source?

 

9 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

DEMS policies cater to the majority of gun crime, while they scream about removing the right from legal citizens.


Source?

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3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Remember when you tried to tell me Trump handed off a booming economy to Biden?

 

Yeah - let's see those sources.

 

 

So you just don’t believe that all the gang shootings are real or what?

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1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Why are you lying Dan ?

 

 

 

 

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Sounds racist to me. They want to limit access to weapons from poor people. Everyone who can legally have one and passes all checks should have access to a weapon to protect themselves. Poor people live in areas where you absolutely want to be armed.

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13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Fact: More guns = more gun deaths 

This is certainly a made up statement that has no basis  in large or small settings- the US had 39000 gun deaths in 1993 and since then the numbers of guns in the country has increased steadily and the number of deaths is less. In small settings I am certain that there is more guns than people in my neighborhood but not one gun related death in the 20years it has existed. The main issue seems to be liberals with guns. 

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Gun Right's Bill Failure A Poor Look For Gun Control Fans

By Tom Knighton

 

If you ask a gun control advocate why you shouldn’t be allowed to carry a gun in certain places, they’ll give you a number of supposed reasons. One will undoubtedly be that more guns will somehow materialize into violence for no reason. When you point out that cops can carry in those places, they’ll respond that police have the training to do so.

 

So, it’s a training issue, right?

 

Well, a bill in Virginia was just shot down that makes it pretty clear that while they say police are exempt from some gun control measures because of their training, that’s really not it.

 

House Democrats on Thursday rejected two measures by Del. Tim Griffin, R-Bedford County, that would have expanded some concealed carry permits and allowed someone who has been granted a protective order to carry a concealed handgun even if they don’t have a concealed handgun permit.

 

By a 7-2 vote, a newly created Firearms Subcommittee killed Griffin’s House Bill 395, which would have allowed anyone age 21 or older to apply for an enhanced concealed handgun permit, which would give them the right to carry a firearm in any place a law-enforcement officer may carry a firearm, including most public buildings.

 

In order to qualify, the applicant would have been required to demonstrate competence with a handgun, including a live fire shooting exercise conducted on a range with a minimum of 100 rounds of ammunition.

 

“What this law does is, it says, listen, if you have proven yourself by doing a little bit of extra training and asking permission, so we know who you are, we know that you are competent and have shown your experience firing a firearm for 100 live rounds, then you have the ability to apply for a permit that gives you ability to take your firearm into places like only law enforcement would be able to take into, like government buildings,” Griffin told the panel.

 

 

Gun-free zones don’t keep anyone safe. We know that the vast majority of mass shootings, for example, take place in gun-free zones.

 

What Griffin’s bill did, though, was basically lay down the plan for someone to undergo more training, including a live fire portion, and then be permitted to carry in these places that most other concealed carry holders wouldn’t be allowed to.

 

In other words, they’d undergo the training gun control fans claim most others lack, and they still oppose it.

 

 

https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2024/01/21/gun-control-fans-2-n79607

 

Now, this isn’t overly surprising. We know that the issue isn’t training and never was. They don’t trust regular people to carry firearms under any circumstances. Some of them may claim they support the Second Amendment, but a whole lot of them also don’t seem to understand what “bearing arms” actually means.

Or they do and simply don’t care.

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4 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

 

 

How is this not in the cycle 

 

 

 

Romeo Nance was on bail and due back in court in February for charges of aggravated assault, reckless discharge of a firearm and obstructing a peace officer after trying to shoot a woman multiple times in 2023.

 

This is why violent criminals should await trial in jail.

 

https://twitter.com/gopher_marc/status/1749618709289705904

 

 

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Poor people, single parent households, welfare recipients, and city people should not have guns.  

 

Sincerely,

Demented Biden and His Buddies

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21 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

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Even if they made every gun illegal, the ***** loser Dems would let every off. What’s the point?  

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23 minutes ago, Irv said:

Even if they made every gun illegal, the ***** loser Dems would let every off. What’s the point?  

You just hit on a salient point, if you want Dems to back it make it illegal and then make it part of "black" culture. At that point no one will ever be charged with a gun crime in the liberal cities. 

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On 1/15/2024 at 1:25 PM, BillStime said:


 

 

It’s funny when these idiots don’t mind when Fox News ignores inconvenient news about Trump - all the time - lmao

 

Of course Chris doesn’t notice or care.

 

 

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On 1/15/2024 at 1:27 PM, Tommy Callahan said:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

Moron sees a mob of violent idiots attacking the white house and immediately replies about the orange dude.  

 

It's not even a d effective thought process.  

 

It's debilitating.   What you wanna bet it hasn't left the house since COVID.  Lol


@Tommy Callahan - this is embarrassing now. 
 

You tried to taunt me and all you did - again - was embarrass your self because you are desperate AF.

 

 

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All the people with their family gun toting pics on FB be deleting them as fast as possible.  If their child has mental illness, and commits a crime with it, they're going to jail for a long time.  I'm not sure I agree with the verdict, but I'm glad to see that it will surely make gun owners more responsible.

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2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

All the people with their family gun toting pics on FB be deleting them as fast as possible.  If their child has mental illness, and commits a crime with it, they're going to jail for a long time.  I'm not sure I agree with the verdict, but I'm glad to see that it will surely make gun owners more responsible.

Um.  That's the law in quite a few states. And has been for a while. 

 

That story is an outlier.  Most legal gun owners are very responsible. 

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2 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Um.  That's the law in quite a few states. And has been for a while. 

 

That story is an outlier.  Most legal gun owners are very responsible. 

This will certainly bring a lot of awareness to it, and even more responsibility.  

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2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

This will certainly bring a lot of awareness to it, and even more responsibility.  

This kid brought a magazine to school I believe, wrote notes about it the school found. He never should have been in school and should have been on a psych hold. The school and the mother should be held responsible. They literally had a meeting that morning about it he should have been sent home and they should have had the cops take the guns away. So many failures 

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Just now, Tommy Callahan said:

I'm guessing your not a legal gun owner?  Most know the laws to stay legal gun owners 

 

Even if not criminal, not securing a weapon is at the very least civil negligence. 

I own rifles, and have no kids, so it's not really a question of legality for me personally.  If I owned a handgun, I'd know those rules better.  I just looked up that literally hundreds of thousands of guns are stolen every year.  if a gun can be stolen, then one would have to assume that a 16 year old son could just have easily accessed it if he wanted, so I disagree with your assumption that "most" owners are responsible.  In this particular case I believe the gun was not secured properly, though.  

3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

This kid brought a magazine to school I believe, wrote notes about it the school found. He never should have been in school and should have been on a psych hold. The school and the mother should be held responsible. They literally had a meeting that morning about it he should have been sent home and they should have had the cops take the guns away. So many failures 

I agree.  The school should be taking some of the brunt, too.  They chose to let him stay, and didn't even look in his bag.  Failures everywhere. 

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