What is better, no guns, or more guns?

[Tiberius]

On 10/10/2022 at 8:54 AM, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Toledo is a DUMP and has been ran by democrats since the town created the position of "mayor". 

Did you see Canada banned sales of handguns? 

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/21/1130608885/justin-trudeau-canada-handgun-sales-freeze

 

And red states are the dumps. Look at all the people overdosing in them. Why can't the GOP clean up all the illegal drugs there? 

[Albwan]

15 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Did you see Canada banned sales of handguns? 

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/21/1130608885/justin-trudeau-canada-handgun-sales-freeze

 

And red states are the dumps. Look at all the people overdosing in them. Why can't the GOP clean up all the illegal drugs there? 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Did you see Canada banned sales of handguns? 

 

https://www.npr.org/2022/10/21/1130608885/justin-trudeau-canada-handgun-sales-freeze

 

And red states are the dumps. Look at all the people overdosing in them. Why can't the GOP clean up all the illegal drugs there? 

When you start politicizing the drug overdose problem you can officially ***** off!!   😡😡😡

[BillStime]

 

 

 

[BillStime]

So sad - so unnecessary and so fkn pathetic

 

 

Vote the terrorists out 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

So sad - so unnecessary and so fkn pathetic

 

 

Vote the terrorists out 

But hey, they can thump their hollow chests and claim to be "pro-life" by taking away women's rights. 

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, Bandito said:

Where's your outcry of black on black shootings in cities that occur everyday? I thought Black Lives Matter?

You really want me to answer this? You know it's racism as the root cause, right? But you don't believe racism is that bad, right? 

[BillStime]

15 minutes ago, Bandito said:

Where's your outcry of black on black shootings in cities that occur everyday? I thought Black Lives Matter?

How does this take help your argument? 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Bandito said:

Racism is all coming from Democrats. They are the party of Racism. I agree. It is sad to see. 

Ya, whatever Trumpbot 

[Tiberius]

Just now, Bandito said:

 

The truth will set you free you hypocrite.

You and the trash you support are the anthesis of truth. But you know that. 

[Chef Jim]

12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Ya, whatever Trumpbot 

Tibs with a zinger of a retort. 👍🏻

[Tiberius]

19 minutes ago, Bandito said:

 

The "trash" I support are going to crush you little losers at the polls this election. Of course unless the Dems rig it again. Put your mask on, get your 5th booster shot. It is going to be amazing to see you meltdown.

I'm on my 2nd booster now 

[B-Man]

 

 

CRISIS BY DESIGN: 

 

Homicide rates surging in major cities run by Soros-backed DAs.

 

 

In fact, homicide rates rose by an average of nearly 10% in 50 of the most populated U.S. cities between the third quarter of last year and the third quarter of this year — and are still rising — according to a new study.

 

WalletHub compared 50 of America’s largest cities based on per capita homicides for the third quarter (July through September) of each year since 2020, using locally published crime data to compile its findings.

 

According to WalletHub, these were the ten cities with the highest homicide cases per 100,000 residents from July through September:

 

St. Louis, Mo. (19.69)
Kansas City, Mo. (14.86)
Detroit, Mich. (13.24)
Baltimore, Md. (12.45)
New Orleans, La. (10.99)
Milwaukee, Wisc. (10.46)
Memphis, Tenn. (9.99)
Philadelphia, Pa. (9.36)
Norfolk, Va. (7.78)
Chicago, Ill. (7.71)

 

The top prosecutors in most of these cities are backed by progressive megadonor George Soros, a billionaire who’s spent the last several years injecting tens of millions of dollars into local district attorney races nationwide, backing candidates who support policies such as abolishing bail, defunding the police, and decriminalizing or deprioritizing certain offenses.

 

https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/homicide-rates-surging-major-cities-run-soros-backed-das

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

16 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

CRISIS BY DESIGN: 

 

Homicide rates surging in major cities run by Soros-backed DAs.

 

 

In fact, homicide rates rose by an average of nearly 10% in 50 of the most populated U.S. cities between the third quarter of last year and the third quarter of this year — and are still rising — according to a new study.

 

WalletHub compared 50 of America’s largest cities based on per capita homicides for the third quarter (July through September) of each year since 2020, using locally published crime data to compile its findings.

 

According to WalletHub, these were the ten cities with the highest homicide cases per 100,000 residents from July through September:

 

St. Louis, Mo. (19.69)
Kansas City, Mo. (14.86)
Detroit, Mich. (13.24)
Baltimore, Md. (12.45)
New Orleans, La. (10.99)
Milwaukee, Wisc. (10.46)
Memphis, Tenn. (9.99)
Philadelphia, Pa. (9.36)
Norfolk, Va. (7.78)
Chicago, Ill. (7.71)

 

The top prosecutors in most of these cities are backed by progressive megadonor George Soros, a billionaire who’s spent the last several years injecting tens of millions of dollars into local district attorney races nationwide, backing candidates who support policies such as abolishing bail, defunding the police, and decriminalizing or deprioritizing certain offenses.

 

https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/homicide-rates-surging-major-cities-run-soros-backed-das

 

 

 

why does anyone trust billionaire socialists?  Isn’t the contradiction obvious? 

[BillStime]

 

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Natural disasters, vaccination rates and uninsured drivers.  😂😂😂😂

 

Please explain the correlation between unemployment and safety.  

[ArdmoreRyno]

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

Moronic way to put together a list. You can twist whatever you'd like to make a state look good/bad. Example:  "Fatal Occupational Injuries per Total Workers" factors into their top 50... and their bottom 5 are all states where you'll have more dangerous jobs (like the oil/mining business). Not nearly as many blue collar jobs in Rhode Island or Delaware. Compare that to Alaska or Wyoming. Apples and oranges. 

 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Natural disasters, vaccination rates and uninsured drivers.  😂😂😂😂

 

Please explain the correlation between unemployment and safety.  

 

Oklahoma should be LAST because we are in the heart of tornado alley. How dare this state be like that! 

[BillStime]

More guns - definitely the answer...

 

We have a murder problem in America — especially in red states

 

Now, for the rest of the story. In a report Third Way recently released, we found that murder was much more prevalent in red states than blue states. That’s right. In 2020, homicide rates were a stunning 40 percent higher in the 25 states that former President Donald Trump won compared to the 25 won by current President Joe Biden. Of the 10 states with the highest 2020 per capita murder rates in America, eight of them not only voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, they voted Republican in every presidential election this century.

[Tiberius]

22 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

CRISIS BY DESIGN: 

 

Homicide rates surging in major cities run by Soros-backed DAs.

 

 

In fact, homicide rates rose by an average of nearly 10% in 50 of the most populated U.S. cities between the third quarter of last year and the third quarter of this year — and are still rising — according to a new study.

 

WalletHub compared 50 of America’s largest cities based on per capita homicides for the third quarter (July through September) of each year since 2020, using locally published crime data to compile its findings.

 

According to WalletHub, these were the ten cities with the highest homicide cases per 100,000 residents from July through September:

 

St. Louis, Mo. (19.69)
Kansas City, Mo. (14.86)
Detroit, Mich. (13.24)
Baltimore, Md. (12.45)
New Orleans, La. (10.99)
Milwaukee, Wisc. (10.46)
Memphis, Tenn. (9.99)
Philadelphia, Pa. (9.36)
Norfolk, Va. (7.78)
Chicago, Ill. (7.71)

 

The top prosecutors in most of these cities are backed by progressive megadonor George Soros, a billionaire who’s spent the last several years injecting tens of millions of dollars into local district attorney races nationwide, backing candidates who support policies such as abolishing bail, defunding the police, and decriminalizing or deprioritizing certain offenses.

 

https://justthenews.com/nation/crime/homicide-rates-surging-major-cities-run-soros-backed-das

 

 

 

Please, you guys can't keep law and order in your states at all. The opioid craze is rotting out the core of those states. Law and order my butt 

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

More guns - definitely the answer...

 

We have a murder problem in America — especially in red states

 

Now, for the rest of the story. In a report Third Way recently released, we found that murder was much more prevalent in red states than blue states. That’s right. In 2020, homicide rates were a stunning 40 percent higher in the 25 states that former President Donald Trump won compared to the 25 won by current President Joe Biden. Of the 10 states with the highest 2020 per capita murder rates in America, eight of them not only voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, they voted Republican in every presidential election this century.

Not to mention pill popping nuts running around all through the red states. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

49 minutes ago, BillStime said:

More guns - definitely the answer...

 

We have a murder problem in America — especially in red states

 

Now, for the rest of the story. In a report Third Way recently released, we found that murder was much more prevalent in red states than blue states. That’s right. In 2020, homicide rates were a stunning 40 percent higher in the 25 states that former President Donald Trump won compared to the 25 won by current President Joe Biden. Of the 10 states with the highest 2020 per capita murder rates in America, eight of them not only voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, they voted Republican in every presidential election this century.

 

100% correlated to crime and poverty. We all know this... 

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

100% correlated to crime and poverty. We all know this... 

I’d also guarantee the areas in those states with high murder rates aren’t exactly Republican strongholds. Probably not majority Caucasian either. 

[SoCal Deek]

Uninsured drivers? 😂😂😂😂

[ArdmoreRyno]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

I’d also guarantee the areas in those states with high murder rates aren’t exactly Republican strongholds. Probably not majority Caucasian either. 

 

No, but we can't talk about that. Apparently. 

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Uninsured drivers? 😂😂😂😂

 

"Honey, we ARE NOT moving to Oxford, Mississippi!!! Do you know how many uninsured drivers there are in Mississippi?!?!?" 

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

No, but we can't talk about that. Apparently. 

 

"Honey, we ARE NOT moving to Oxford, Mississippi!!! Do you know how many uninsured drivers there are in Mississippi?!?!?" 

My favorite was throwing in the homeless. I thought the Left loved homeless folks. Now they apparently make a place dangerous? How so? 

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

My favorite was throwing in the homeless. I thought the Left loved homeless folks. Now they apparently make a place dangerous? How so? 

It’s probably some lefty-type thinking. Something like homeless people are in an unsafe situation so more homeless = unsafe. 

[Tiberius]

34 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

100% correlated to crime and poverty. We all know this... 

Lack of health care/insurance makes the poor, poorer 

 

I wonder if that lack of health insurance is a contributing factor of opioid crisis in red states 

[B-Man]

 

 

Paul Krugman jumps on the bogus 'red state murder problem' bandwagon

 

FTA:

 

 

It may not appear so, but I think this paragraph was very carefully crafted. The crime surge was real but “the perception that it was all about big cities run by Democrats is false.” And that’s true of course. It wasn’t all about big blue cities but it was largely about big blue cities. His first link about the purple crime wave goes to an argument put forward by Democratic group Third Way back in March. They titled it “The Red State Murder Problem” and it was carefully designed to shift the framing of the crime problem in a way more favorable to Democrats. Here’s a bit of it:

 

If you’re tuned in to the media, you’d think murder is rocketing skyward in New York, California, Illinois. But those states don’t even crack the top ten.

In fact, the top per capita murder rate states in 2020 were mostly those far from massive urban centers and Democratic mayors and governors. Eight of the top ten worst murder rate states voted for Trump in 2020. None of those eight has supported a Democrat for president since 1996.

The chart below shows the top 10 murder rate states in 2020. Mississippi had the highest homicide rate at 20.50 murders per 100,000 residents, followed by Louisiana at 15.79, Kentucky at 14.32, Alabama at 14.2, and Missouri at 14. The national average was 6.5 per 100,000 residents, but the top five states had rates more than twice that high.

 

All of that is true but also very intentionally misleading. By focusing on states and which candidate they voted for, Third Way manages to obscure where most of the increased violence is actually happening. Marc Thiessen wrote about this last week:

 

In most of these red states, the high murder rates are driven by the lethal violence in their blue cities.

Take Missouri. Yes, it voted for Trump. But it is also home to two of the most dangerous U.S. cities — St. Louis and Kansas City — both of which are run by Democrats. Earlier this year, CBS News did an analysis of the “deadliest U.S. cities” using the latest FBI and other crime data. In 2019, it found, St. Louis had the highest murder rate in the nation, with 64.54 murders per 100,000 residents. Kansas City, meanwhile, had the eighth-highest murder rate, with 29.88 murders per 100,000. According to the FBI, the state had about 520 murders in major metropolitan areas that year, 20 in cities outside metropolitan areas, and 28 in nonmetropolitan counties. So, the vast majority of Missouri’s homicides took place in its Democrat-run cities.

 

The same is true for Louisiana, which has two of the most lethal Democratic-run cities in the country: Baton Rouge, which in 2019 had the sixth-highest murder rate in the nation with 31.72 murders per 100,000 residents, and New Orleans, which had the seventh-highest rate with 30.67 murders per 100,000. Without those cities, the state’s murder rate would significantly drop.

 

That’s not all. Tennessee’s homicide rate was driven up by Democratic-run Memphis, which ranked ninth in the country with 29.21 homicides per 100,000 residents. Also powering the state’s murder rate: then-Democratic-led Chattanooga (No. 29) with 18.15 murders per 100,000 in 2019 (note: the city elected an independent in 2021); Democratic-run Nashville (No. 59) with 12.08 per 100,000; and Democratic-run Knoxville (No. 62) with 11.66 per 100,000.

 

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/10/25/paul-krugman-jumps-on-the-bogus-red-state-murder-problem-bandwagon-n505698

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

26 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Lack of health care/insurance makes the poor, poorer 

 

I wonder if that lack of health insurance is a contributing factor of opioid crisis in red states 

 

Every state has "State Medicaid"... FREE. Saying it's because of health insurance... I'm going to assume you're trolling. 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Every state has "State Medicaid"... FREE. Saying it's because of health insurance... I'm going to assume you're trolling. 

No, many states did not expand medicaid under Obamacare 

 

This map shows the states that simply refused to allow their poor citizens to get the expansion. It matches pretty well with the massive drug problem rotting the core out of those red states out 

 

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/

[ArdmoreRyno]

Just now, Tiberius said:

No, many states did not expand medicaid under Obamacare 

 

This map shows the states that simply refused to allow their poor citizens to get the expansion. It matches pretty well with the massive drug problem rotting the core out of those red states out 

 

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/

 

I know this, Oklahoma was one of them. Still, you can get Medicaid here and it covers EVERYTHING. I am a SoonerCare (OK Medicaid) provider, my father is one as well. 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

I know this, Oklahoma was one of them. Still, you can get Medicaid here and it covers EVERYTHING. I am a SoonerCare (OK Medicaid) provider, my father is one as well. 

I knew there had to be a connection. 

Quote

 

Reporting from Washington —  

Even as the heroin and prescription opioid crisis deepens nationally, thousands of poor patients with addiction cannot get treatment in states where political leaders have opposed the Affordable Care Act.

 

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-opioids-obamacare-20160613-snap-story.html

Quote

 

Those patients are languishing on waiting lists for recovery programs or unable to get medicine to combat addiction because they can’t afford prescriptions, according to health officials nationwide.

Poor adults in states that expanded Medicaid through the health law have access to medical insurance and a way to pay for addiction treatment. But 19 states, all with Republican governors or legislatures, have rejected federal aid to expand Medicaid eligibility, essentially making coverage available only to poor children, pregnant women and seniors.

 

 

[ArdmoreRyno]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I knew there had to be a connection. 

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-opioids-obamacare-20160613-snap-story.html

 

 

Not sure what to say. All I know, in the state I live in... people get methadone and suboxone FREE. There are clinics in virtually every area of Oklahoma. Doctors can give a $1800/per shot medication (Abilify) to SoonerCare patients... FREE to the patient. 

 

Oklahoma is a "poor" state, but we are providing for those who struggle economically, in the health field. Kids get free braces. Kids and adults get free mental health services, both in and outpatient. Kids and adults get free glasses. Medicaid patients get free medical services, both in a doctors office AND hospitals. 10% of our population also get free healthcare with the Tribes. My girls (as well as my fiancé) are Chickasaw, they have both Blue Cross Blue Shield, plus free medical/dental/mental health/vision via the Chickasaw Nation. 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Not sure what to say. All I know, in the state I live in... people get methadone and suboxone FREE. There are clinics in virtually every area of Oklahoma. Doctors can give a $1800/per shot medication (Abilify) to SoonerCare patients... FREE to the patient. 

 

Oklahoma is a "poor" state, but we are providing for those who struggle economically, in the health field. Kids get free braces. Kids and adults get free mental health services, both in and outpatient. Kids and adults get free glasses. Medicaid patients get free medical services, both in a doctors office AND hospitals. 10% of our population also get free healthcare with the Tribes. My girls (as well as my fiancé) are Chickasaw, they have both Blue Cross Blue Shield, plus free medical/dental/mental health/vision via the Chickasaw Nation. 

Looks like Oklahoma did expand medicaide by voter approval. So hopefully that will help with the problem 

[ArdmoreRyno]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Looks like Oklahoma did expand medicaide by voter approval. So hopefully that will help with the problem 

 

We've had the same thing available for as long as I can remember. My dad, for example, was the first to offer SoonerCare braces in Oklahoma back around 2000. I believe the expansion bumped what the providers make. Slightly. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

I’d also guarantee the areas in those states with high murder rates aren’t exactly Republican strongholds. Probably not majority Caucasian either. 

In this particular topic, it’s not a state level item. It’s a municipal problem…. How many of these high murder rate cities are not firmly blue? There has to be some

[Tiberius]

35 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

We've had the same thing available for as long as I can remember. My dad, for example, was the first to offer SoonerCare braces in Oklahoma back around 2000. I believe the expansion bumped what the providers make. Slightly. 

Must be something else then. 

[BillStime]

🎯

 

Nut job

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Democrat Tim Ryan.

 

Tim Ryan goes to a gun range to show he’s one of the common folk and yikes … just watch

 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp-313137/2022/11/05/tim-ryan-goes-to-a-gun-range-to-show-hes-one-of-the-common-folk-and-yikes-just-watch/

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[BillStime]

I’m really surprised this guy lost