no charges in IRS investigation?

[B-Man]

Keep up the narrative that it's only right-wingers...............................lol

 

 

POLL: 70% Want Congress To Keep Probing IRS.

 

“Call it a ‘kumbaya’ question, as majorities of Democrats (60 percent), independents (75 percent) and Republicans (78 percent) support lawmakers continuing to dig.

 

The new poll also asked why the White House is refusing to release thousands of pages of documents related to the IRS targeting.

 

By nearly three-to-one people think it’s because the administration wants to keep its role in the scandal secret (63 percent) rather than to keep taxpayer information confidential (22 percent). Even Democrats are more likely to say the Obama White House is withholding documents to hide its involvement (45 percent) rather than to protect taxpayers (35 percent).”

 

Americans know abuse of power when they see it.

 

 

 

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[OCinBuffalo]

F probing. I've seen enough smoke, fire and flat out petulance.

 

It's time to take this agency down. The best way to do that? Pass the fair tax. The fair tax solves all sorts of problems: corporate loopholes, individual loopholes, which should make even the far-left happy. And, it also removes the need for 85% of the IRS. WIth such a small agency remaining, it will be very easy to monitor their efforts with regard to political activism/abuse by the executive branch. In fact, a single Congressional committee(which is already in place) could review every single decision they make.

 

The poll above makes it clear: the political will to do this exists amongst Is, Rs, and even some Ds(I say some because even though most recognize the abuse they will probably not support the fair tax just because). Clearly the majority of the country will support it. Therefore: It's a winning issue.

 

All the Rs have to do is unite behind it, dare the Ds to oppose it, and hammer the schit out of them with merely the content of this thread if they do.

Edited December 12, 2014 by OCinBuffalo

[DC Tom]

F probing. I've seen enough smoke, fire and flat out petulance.

 

It's time to take this agency down. The best way to do that? Pass the fair tax. The fair tax solves all sorts of problems: corporate loopholes, individual loopholes, which should make even the far-left happy. And, it also removes the need for 85% of the IRS. WIth such a small agency remaining, it will be very easy to monitor their efforts with regard to political activism/abuse by the executive branch. In fact, a single Congressional committee(which is already in place) could review every single decision they make.

 

The poll above makes it clear: the political will to do this exists amongst Is, Rs, and even some Ds(I say some because even though most recognize the abuse they will probably not support the fair tax just because). Clearly the majority of the country will support it. Therefore: It's a winning issue.

 

All the Rs have to do is unite behind it, dare the Ds to oppose it, and hammer the schit out of them with merely the content of this thread if they do.

 

Never happen. Do you realize how many jobs would be lost if they simplified the tax code? How many accountants would be out of work?

[BillsFanM.D.]

Never happen. Do you realize how many jobs would be lost if they simplified the tax code? How many accountants would be out of work?

 

Nah. There's plenty of folks who need help with the 1040EZ. They'll be fine.

[4merper4mer]

 

 

All the Rs have to do is unite behind it, dare the Ds to oppose it, and hammer the schit out of them with merely the content of this thread if they do.

 

Zero point zero. All of those dudes' power is derived, at least in part from the tax code.

[B-Man]

The Bipartisan Plan TO End IRS Stealing.

 

For years, the Internal Revenue Service has been stealing taxpayer assets from small businesses — not for breaking tax law, but for making legitimate bank deposits under $10,000. It’s one form of the increasingly well-known practice called “civil asset forfeiture.”

 

The IRS has the power to seize small cash deposits under $10,000. These deposits seem suspicious because cash deposits over $10,000 trigger a bank report to authorities. Terrorists, drug dealers, and money launderers all make cash deposits under $10,000 to avoid triggering the bank report. The illicit practice is called “structuring.”

 

The problem is that many small businesses accept cash payments and make large deposits that happen to fall under $10,000.

 

Sadly, this attempt to crack down on terrorist funding is used by the IRS to abuse small businesses. In October, the New York Times reported on the story of Carole Hinders, a small business owner who had over $30,000 seized by the IRS. The IRS does not even need to charge someone with a crime to seize assets under an alleged structuring scheme.

 

Thankfully, a bipartisan bill has been introduced in Congress that would end the practice.

 

On December 10, House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp, R-Mich., and Ranking Member Sander Levin, D-Mich., introduced the Taxpayer Protections Against Abusive Seizures Act.

 

 

 

Well, it’s worth trying before going all the way to tar and feathers.

 

 

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[B-Man]

Here we go..................................

 

 

IRS warns of possible shutdown

by Rachael Bade, 12/18/14

 

The IRS is considering its own temporary shutdown due to recent budget cuts enacted by Congress, its chief said Thursday.

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said furloughs — forced unpaid days off for employees as part of an IRS closure — is one idea reluctantly being tossed about to save money, though they are hoping they will not have to go there.

 

“People call it furloughs; I view it as: Are we going to have to shut the place down? And at this point, that will be the last thing we do, … but there is no way we can say right now that that wont happen,” Koskinen told reporters at a Thursday press conference on the upcoming tax season. “Again, I would stress that would be the last option.”

 

He said a shutdown would mean the IRS would “close the agency for a day, two days, whatever days it would take to close the gap that we can’t otherwise close in a reasonable way.”

 

The agency estimates each closed day would save $29 million.

 

The news comes a day after Koskinen in an email warned IRS employees that overtime would be suspended and a hiring freeze enacted. He also said more tough news would likely follow as IRS leadership negotiates with the National Treasury Employees Union, particularly because personnel costs comprise about 75 percent of the IRS costs.

 

In the recent budget deal, Congress cut the IRS budget by $346 million to $10.9 billion

 

More at the link: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/irs-possible-temporary-shutdown-113681.html

 

 

Followed by the "CHICAGO" response

 

IRS head says budget cuts could delay tax refunds

 

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Budget cuts at the IRS could delay tax refunds, reduce taxpayer services and hurt enforcement efforts, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said Thursday.

 

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRS_DELAYED_REFUNDS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-12-18-15-39-07

 

 

We'll just delay your money if you don't lay off us.......................

 

 

 

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[Chef Jim]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/irs-considered-tax-on-donations-to-political-groups-1419297700

[Nanker]

Selective enforcement of the laws. A "Progressive" hallmark.

[DC Tom]

http://www.wsj.com/a...oups-1419297700

 

Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the top Democrat on the committee, complained that Republicans were shutting Democrats out of the probe. B by releasing information without sharing it with Democrats, “Republicans are intentionally bypassing the normal congressional vetting process designed to distinguish fact from fiction.” he said in a statement.

 

Sucks to be on the other side of that bull ****, doesn't it Cummings?

[Nanker]

Yes. It gets me deep. i.e., "I feel your pain." [/s]

 

Bwaahhahahahahaha

Edited December 23, 2014 by Nanker

[Tiberius]

http://www.wsj.com/a...oups-1419297700

Charity?

[Chef Jim]

Charity?

 

Your point?

[B-Man]

Your point?

 

[Chef Jim]

 

 

 

I know, what was I thinking.

[Tiberius]

Your point?

Giving to political causes shouldn't be exempt

 

 

Oh wow, there really are times where you don't just mindlessly cut and paste right wing trash

[Chef Jim]

Giving to political causes shouldn't be exempt

 

 

What about gifts to the local fire department? Social welfare groups?

[Tiberius]

What about gifts to the local fire department? Social welfare groups?

The NRA is not a social welfare group!

 

Are the fire dudes and welfare groups lobbying the government?

[TakeYouToTasker]

The NRA is not a social welfare group!

 

Are the fire dudes and welfare groups lobbying the government?

The NRA absolutely is a social welfare group.

[DC Tom]

Are the fire dudes and welfare groups lobbying the government?

 

Yes.

[Chef Jim]

The NRA is not a social welfare group!

 

Are the fire dudes and welfare groups lobbying the government?

 

So you didn't read the article. Color me surprised.

[B-Man]

So you didn't read the article. Color me surprised.

 

 

He doesn't need to Jim,

 

He has a "meter".

[Azalin]

It looks like it's time to dust off this old thread - anyone seen the IRS's latest tactic for stalling on handing over Lerner's emails?

 

 

"Attorneys from the Department of Justice representing the IRS say the emails won’t be shared because the service is making sure that none of them are duplicates."

 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/06/15/irs-finds-6400-lois-lerner-emails-but-wont-hand-em-over/

[keepthefaith]

It looks like it's time to dust off this old thread - anyone seen the IRS's latest tactic for stalling on handing over Lerner's emails?

 

 

"Attorneys from the Department of Justice representing the IRS say the emails won’t be shared because the service is making sure that none which are incriminating are released of them are duplicates."

 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2015/06/15/irs-finds-6400-lois-lerner-emails-but-wont-hand-em-over/

Fox is incorrect but I fixed it.

[Nanker]

Perish the thought that The Department of Redundancy Department would provide a single duplicate record. Man, that would bollox up the entire investigation, and they simply couldn't have THAT.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

Remember these names: Geoffrey J. Klimas and Stephanie Sasarak. They are lawyers working for the Department of Justice who are representing the IRS, and they have just insulted the intelligence of the Washington, D.C. District Court and the American people by telling the Court that , as Patrick Howley writes in the Daily Caller:

the IRS received new Lerner emails from the Treasury Department’s inspector general (TIGTA) but can’t fork over the emails to Judicial Watch, a nonprofit group suing to get the emails. Why? Because the IRS is busy making sure that none of the emails are duplicates – you know, so as not to waste anyone’s time.

However, the inspector general already made sure that none of the emails were duplicates, so the IRS’ latest excuse falls flat.

 

 

Klimas and Sasarak admit in their court filing:

Prior to providing the Service with the approximately 6,400 forensically-recovered emails, TIGTA identified and removed emails which appear to be duplicates of those which the Service has already produced to the Congressional Committees or were duplicates of other recovered emails.

 

 

 

So there is absolutely no reason to delay disclosure of the e-mails. But the lawyers make up an insulting excuse – that they have to check for duplication with Lerner e-mails they don’t yet have:

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/06/irs_using_absurd_excuse_to_avoid_turning_over_newly_discovered_lois_lerner_emails.html#ixzz3dARBjCQL

 

Maybe we could just ask the Chinese to send them over. They seem to have everything else.

 

Edited June 15, 2015 by B-Man

[Azalin]

 

 

Maybe we could just ask the Chinese to send them over. They seem to have everything else.

 

 

If not the Chinese, then I imagine the NSA could dig through their metadata.

[Azalin]

The IRS is now handing out contracts to companies who are delinquent on their taxes.

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/irs-paid-18-million-to-tax-delinquent-firms/article/2566981?utm_campaign=Fox%20News&utm_source=foxnews.com&utm_medium=feed

[B-Man]

Surprise, Surprise: Lois Lerner Had Friends in Wisconsin

It turns out that the vast left-wing conspiracy isn’t all that vast. From the Wall Street Journal:

Wisconsin’s campaign to investigate conservative tax-exempt groups has always seemed like an echo of the IRS’s scrutiny of conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status. It turns out that may be more than a coincidence.

Former IRS tax-exempt director Lois Lerner ran the agency’s policy on conservative groups. Kevin Kennedy runs the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board (GAB) that helped prosecutors with their secret John Doe investigation of conservative groups after the 2011 and 2012 recall elections of Governor Scott Walker and state senators.

Emails we’ve seen show that between 2011 and 2013 the two were in contact on multiple occasions, sharing articles on topics including greater donor disclosure and Wisconsin’s recall elections. The emails indicate the two were also personal friends who met for dinner and kept in professional touch. “Are you available for the 25th?” Ms. Lerner wrote in January 2012. “If so, perhaps we could work two nights in a row.”

This timing is significant because those were the years when the IRS increased its harassment of conservative groups and Wisconsin prosecutors gathered information that would lead to the John Doe probe that officially opened in September 2012. Ms. Lerner’s lawyer declined comment. Mr. Kennedy said via email that “Ms. Lerner is a professional friend who I have known for more than 20 years” but declined further comment.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/wisconsins-friend-at-the-irs-1436482521

The Journal has been doing an outstanding job peeling the corrupt onion of Wisconsin’s astonishingly abusive “John Doe” investigations, and — given the similar objectives of the John Doe investigations and the IRS Tea Party targeting — these latest revelations are hardly shocking.

Both the IRS and the Wisconsin investigators were dead-set on reading confidential donor lists and determining exactly how conservative organizations communicate. The IRS sought its information through lawless and discriminatory document demands, while Wisconsin officials used the blunt instrument of predawn raids and electronic snooping that would make the NSA blush.

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[IDBillzFan]

Phucktard goes full gatorman.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/21/obama-defends-irs-tea-party-targeting-didnt-happen/

[Azalin]

Phucktard goes full gatorman.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/21/obama-defends-irs-tea-party-targeting-didnt-happen/

 

The sad thing is that all he needs to do is joke about it with Stewart and 99% of that audience will lap it up as gospel.

[DC Tom]

Phucktard goes full gatorman.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/21/obama-defends-irs-tea-party-targeting-didnt-happen/

 

Because Congress passed a "crummy law." Not like he never changed a law at the podium before.

 

And it's "not his fault." Okay...maybe, but IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE !@#$ING PRESIDENT!

[IDBillzFan]

 

Because Congress passed a "crummy law." Not like he never changed a law at the podium before.

 

And it's "not his fault." Okay...maybe, but IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE !@#$ING PRESIDENT!

 

Yes, but he's only president because we elected him president. It's not HIS fault people elected him president.

 

Perhaps birdog can explain it better to the president if he diagrams the logic. I hear that's what all the smart people are doing these days.

[3rdnlng]

 

Yes, but he's only president because we elected him president. It's not HIS fault people elected him president.

 

Perhaps birdog can explain it better to the president if he diagrams the logic. I hear that's what all the smart people are doing these days.

He thinks degrees are some kind of measurement of intelligence.

[unbillievable]

So the Democrat Congress passed a "crummy law" because they knew Republicans were about to take over, and the IRS didn't have the money or personnel to do their jobs, before they were de-funded, which forced them to persecute conservative non-profit groups...

 

We can't call the Prez a liar because he said it on comedy central...

And how big a tool has Jon Stewart become?

[B-Man]

THE COUNTRY’S IN THE VERY BEST OF HANDS:

 

IRS Employee Whose Job Was Assisting Victims Of Identity Theft Charged In $1 Million Identity Theft Tax Fraud.

 

 

 

'Not even a smidgen of corruption'

[/dev/null]

it's not illegal when the government does it