no charges in IRS investigation?

[GG]

There is a reason why Lois Lerner pleaded the 5th.

 

Also, there are so many fires/scandals and stories it's a bit overwhelming. Right now, the IRS scandal is at the bottom of the totem pole. But something like this is worth further investigation, and I'm guessing it will reappear back into the public eye, unless of course the Obama administration flubs yet again, and at this rate, it's just a matter of time, we're talking probably days.

 

From the start of this story, this was the most serious one to me. The others are just one of many signs of incompetence. This one is a horrifying act of government agencies intentionally and illegally targeting citizens. This is so far worse than Watergate or anything else that's been unearthed so far, yet inexplicably, as you say, it's at the bottom of the news cycle.

 

The ironic part is that liberals are the first to start screaming about a slide into a dystopian monolithic state. Yet, when their posterchild administration is actually taking steps in that direction, there isn't a peep.

[Doc]

It's the "fundamental transformation of America" Barry was promising. It was a great country while it lasted.

[Nanker]

We should have known this would happen again. Clinton's clown Craig Livingstone was the first that we know of to swim in this cess pool. It sure shut up Gus D'Amato.

 

 

I hate autocorrect!

Edited June 10, 2014 by Nanker

[Magox]

From the start of this story, this was the most serious one to me. The others are just one of many signs of incompetence. This one is a horrifying act of government agencies intentionally and illegally targeting citizens. This is so far worse than Watergate or anything else that's been unearthed so far, yet inexplicably, as you say, it's at the bottom of the news cycle.

 

The ironic part is that liberals are the first to start screaming about a slide into a dystopian monolithic state. Yet, when their posterchild administration is actually taking steps in that direction, there isn't a peep.

 

This administration has a funny way of handling fires. Usually people use water to try to put them out, this administration believes creating more fires to combat the last fire is the way to handle it.

[DC Tom]

This administration has a funny way of handling fires. Usually people use water to try to put them out, this administration believes creating more fires to combat the last fire is the way to handle it.

 

"Where there's smoke, there's Republicans."

[B-Man]

IRS Gave FBI 1.1 Million Pages Of Taxpayer Data To Encourage Prosecution of Conservatives

by John Hindraker

 

Original Article

 

FTA:

 

The IRS’s purpose was explicitly political. Sarah Ingram, Lois Lerner’s predecessor in charge of tax-exempt organizations at the IRS, wrote in a September 21, 2010 email, the subject of which was a favorable front-page story in the New York Times:

Thanks, as always, for the excellent support from Media. I do think it came out pretty well. The “secret donor” theme will continue–see Obama salvo today and Diane Reehm (sp).

 

The reference is to Diane Rehm, an NPR radio host. So the IRS, at its highest levels, was trying to advance the Democratic Party’s “secret donor” theme on the eve of the 2010 election, and breaking the law to do so.

 

Could someone maybe go to jail one of these days?

 

 

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Edited June 11, 2014 by B-Man

[Koko78]

Could someone maybe go to jail one of these days?

 

That will happen about three days after the black panthers are prosecuted for voter intimidation.

[B-Man]

Oh c'mon !

 

Can anyone on this board say that they honestly believe this.

 

 

IRS Says It Lost Two Years of Lerner E-mails

By Eliana Johnson

 

House Ways and Means Commitee chairman Dave Camp has hit a roadblock in his investigation of the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative groups: The IRS says it has lost over two years’ worth of e-mails sent by former agency official Lois Lerner, the one of the chief subjects of the committee’s investigation.

 

Camp, who is retiring in November, is calling for an investigation into the matter and forensic audits by the Department of Justice and Treasury Department Inspector General for Tax Administration.

 

“The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to congressional inquiries,” he said in a statement. “There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.”

 

The agency informed Camp that a computer crash resulted in the loss of e-mails between January 2009 and April 2011 sent between Lerner and outside agencies such as the White House and the Department of Justice. Those messages are particularly relevant given revelations earlier this week that the agency in 2010 transmitted a database to the FBI containing confidential taxpayer information, potentially in violation of federal law.

 

“These are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies,” Camp said. “Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone.” He called on the White House to conduct an “administration-wide search and production” of e-mails sent or received by Lerner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

They were requested 13 months ago ! !

 

and why would the e-mails that go to internal IRS recipients be there, but the ones to external recipients not be? Any good reason?

 

 

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Edited June 13, 2014 by B-Man

[Doc]

The most corrupt administration ever. Pathetic.

[Nanker]

Well, hey! They did have a B word of a problem getting Obamacare's website up. Therefore, this is completely understandable. [/mainstreammedia]

[B-Man]

Lois Lerner’s “Lost” Emails

by Andrew C. McCarthy

 

FTA:

 

Naturally, when it reluctantly covers administration scandals, Obama’s media praetorian guard spins the story as being that the misconduct du jour of the IRS, the ATF, the Justice Department, the State Department, the VA, and the rest “has not been connected to the White House.” But it is always connected to the White House. The president is responsible for all the officials and agencies delegated to wield the power the Constitution vests only in him — and this is even more surely the case when his reaction to nearly every scandal is to protect or promote wayward officials and agencies; to help stonewall rather than encourage cooperation with investigators, get to the bottom of what happened, and discipline the incompetents and rogues. And while some Obama apologists say the executive branch has expanded too much for any one person reasonably to be held accountable for its actions, how could that be a defense for a president who claims government can efficiently handle a dramatically more intrusive role in our lives?

 

When will this president finally have to answer for the executive branch lawlessness that is an everyday occurrence on his watch?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Politico headline on Lerner emails is a *texbook* example of media bias:

 

"IRS, Republicans clash over Lois Lerner emails."................................................................. That's the news?

 

 

 

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Edited June 13, 2014 by B-Man

[1billsfan]

 

Politico headline on Lerner emails is a *texbook* example of media bias:

 

"IRS, Republicans clash over Lois Lerner emails."................................................................. That's the news?

 

 

The Washington Post, which broke Watergate and led to Nixon's resignation as our president, doesn't even have the Lois Lerner "we lost 2 years of emails" story on the front page of their website where there are about a 50-100 story links. You have to search Lerner's name to find the story.

[Doc]

That's because it's a "manufactured scandal"...that necessitated them deleting incriminating e-mails.

[B-Man]

 

Lois Lerner’s “lost” emails

 

A reader writes from inside the Department of Justice to comment on the two-year gap in Lois Lerner’s intra-government email messages:

I’m a DOJ lawyer, so you obviously cannot use my name or any identifying information. But the idea that a “hard drive crash” somehow destroyed all of Ms. Lerner’s intra-government email correspondence during the period in question [2009-2011] is laughable.

Government email servers are backed up every night. So if she actually had a hard drive fail, her emails would be recoverable from the backup.

If the backup was somehow also compromised, then we are talking about a conspiracy.

Keep up the good work.

 

He reiterates in a postscript:

I’m serious about your keeping any identifying information out of the media. Things are very, very bad.

 

There has to be more to the story and the hearings should start next week.

 

 

 

 

http://www.powerline...lost-emails.php

 

 

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Edited June 14, 2014 by B-Man

[IDBillzFan]

http://www.powerline...lost-emails.php

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Welcome to the United States of Chicago.

Edited June 14, 2014 by LABillzFan

[Philly McButterpants]

Lost e-mail "simply not feasible..."

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/13/veteran-it-professional-gives-six-reasons-why-the-irs-claim-that-it-lost-two-years-of-lois-lerners-emails-is-simply-not-feasible/

[IDBillzFan]

Lost e-mail "simply not feasible..."

 

http://www.theblaze....y-not-feasible/

 

You'd think the WH would look at stuff like this and have at least one person sitting around saying "Ummm, we know America is stupid, but they're not stupid enough to think a person's computer crashing makes it impossible to find their emails."

 

This from Sharyl Atkinson pretty much sums it up:

 

In light of the disclosure, these are some of the logical requests that should be made of the IRS:

• Please provide a timeline of the crash and documentation covering when it was first discovered and by whom; when, how and by whom it was learned that materials were lost; the official documentation reporting the crash and federal data loss; documentation reflecting all attempts to recover the materials; and the remediation records documenting the fix. This material should include the names of all officials and technicians involved, as well as all internal communications about the matter.
  
• Please provide all documents and emails that refer to the crash from the time that it happened through the IRS’ disclosure to Congress Friday that it had occurred.
  
• Please provide the documents that show the computer crash and lost data were appropriately reported to the required entities including any contractor servicing the IRS. If the incident was not reported, please explain why.
  
• Please provide a list summarizing what other data was irretrievably lost in the computer crash. If the loss involved any personal data, was the loss disclosed to those impacted? If not, why?
  
• Please provide documentation reflecting any security analyses done to assess the impact of the crash and lost materials. If such analyses were not performed, why not?
  
• Please provide documentation showing the steps taken to recover the material, and the names of all technicians who attempted the recovery.
  
• Please explain why redundancies required for federal systems were either not used or were not effective in restoring the lost materials, and provide documentation showing how this shortfall has been remediated.
  
• Please provide any documents reflecting an investigation into how the crash resulted in the irretrievable loss of federal data and what factors were found to be responsible for the existence of this situation.
  
• I would also ask for those who discovered and reported the crash to testify under oath, as well as any officials who reported the materials as having been irretrievably lost.
  

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[Philly McButterpants]

The most transparent administration . . . From LABillz' article linked above:

 

along with providing news of the emails that have been lost, the IRS suggested in the same letter to Congress that it end its investigation.

 

:lol:

[B-Man]

2013 Treasury IG Report May Hint What Was in Destroyed Lerner Emails. (If, indeed, they were destroyed.)

by Rick Moran

 

Original Article

 

 

 

 

 

Pat SajakVerified account ‏@patsajak

Weird. Hundreds of emails to & from someone named Lerner just showed up in my spam. Must be British. Lots of tea talk.

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Edited June 15, 2014 by B-Man

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